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Hi,
Surely moralism is making ourselves little lords and applying to others what external laws we have found. Is this not just a distraction from listening to and obeying our Lord and master?Hi Nick,
There are many who do not listen to God.
If these people practiced no moralism, where would we be as a society?Tim
Jesus wasn't into legalism, so he must have dug moralism. After all he said things like: be kind, don't kill eachother, forgive one another, don't stone a prostitute, if you have to work on the Sabbath don't sweat it too much and so on.
So what's the debate between moralism and legalism?
Thanks,
MandyHi not3,
Legalism surely refers to the harsh letter of the OT Law and not the freeing inner Law of the Spirit.So if we are not under legalism any longer, which IMO we should, what is right or wrong then. Everything goes, that is what this world has become. But as Christian we should have some kind of legalism. Even tho I agree that we are not under the OT laws anymore, but all laws have been magnified by Jesus and God's law should be written in our hearts. And we should do them because we love God. That is what God wants. Jesus fulfilled the law and we are under the law of Love. We are not lawless.
All of that I have explained in the Covenant tread.Mandy makes a good point.
Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,
No man can write the Law of the Spirit on his own heart.
Jesus did not come to save the world but to save men from it.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2008,15:34) Hi Irene,
No man can write the Law of the Spirit on his own heart.
Jesus did not come to save the world but to save men from it.
No, but God can. Jesus did not come into the world to condemn the world, but through Him all might be saveth. The Gospel will go into all the world, and all will have a chance to repent and come to God. That is when Jesus will teach only the truth in the Millenium. The truth will cover the earth like water covers the sea.
IreneHi Irene,
Where does it say all will be resurrected for a second chance at salvation during the millenium?Acts 24:15 tells you that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and the unjust.
Job is hoping that His change will come. Job 14:14
1Corinth. 15:22 tells us that all in Adam died and all in Adam will be resurrected. All in there own order.
Judgement means that all will be taught the truth. When is that going to happen. Here we have to use some common sense and ask why does Jesus use a 1000 years.
In Isaiah 65:20 No more shall an Infant from there live but a few days, Nor a man who has not fulfilled his days. For the child shall die one hundred years old. But the sinners being one hundred years old shall be accursed.
Since all will resurrected and all in there order, think about it all those Babies that died before they got to know Jesus. They will one day. That what I think the Millenium is for. Judgement for all. There will be a Highway of Holiness and the redeemed will walk on it. It says that the truth will cover the earth like waters cover the sea.Isaiah 35:8-9
After all that Satan will be loosed and mankind will have their last trial. Many will unfortunately go with Satan. Into the Lake of Fire.
This is way of subject, sorry, but that is all I will say on the subject.
Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,
Thanks.
So none of these say there will be a second chance.
We know all will be resurrected and we know it is in two resurrections.
There will be natural men alive at the return of Christ to be governed but these are not resurrected.Truth will indeed cover the earth. Babies will live to 100 and the asp will lie with infants.
You say
“Judgement means that all will be taught the truth.”No JUDGEMENT Means JUDGEMENT.
Teaching is another issue.You say
“When is that going to happen. Here we have to use some common sense and ask why does Jesus use a 1000 years.”Sorry commonsense cannot be ADDED to scripture to form new teachings.
God has bound ALL MEN over to disobedience so that he can have mercy on THEM ALL.
It sounds like Judgement doesn't mean one certain thing.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 15 2008,06:36) Hi Not3,
So where is judgement in that verse??
God's ways are above your ways.Perhaps judgement means something different to God. Kind of like conception means something different to him?
Hi Not3
Rev20
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
IF the “lake of fire” is real, then you have yourself a true burning lake where God throws his children to burn forever – nice.
If the “lake of fire” stands for something else…..then the term “judgement” still could mean something else.
Do we know anything for certain?
Hi not3,
Would you have God act differently?
He has disowned the natural children of Adam who serve another father.
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