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- June 15, 2012 at 1:53 pm#302551DevolutionParticipant
Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2012,00:14) devo there his also the height king what is part of the seven
Hi Pierre,Yes, that is absolutely correct.
Revelation 17:11
And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.I shall wait for Eds reply on the other points first though, thanks for the input…i had forgotten to mention that one…
Cheers.
June 15, 2012 at 8:27 pm#302559Ed JParticipantQuote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,19:30) Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,18:54) Quote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,18:37) Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,16:18) Hi Devolution, The 10 horned beast in Daniel and the beast of Rev.13:1-2 are different beasts.
God bless
Ed J
Hi Ed,When the beast of Revelation 13:1-2 rose up out of the water, what relevant and telling revelation did you notice about his heads?
Cheers.
Hi Devolution,I'm not sure what you're driving at?
Could you be a tad bit more specific?God bless
Ed J
Sure Ed,All of the beasts heads were past kingdoms of which we know…
however, one head, even after the beast rose up out of the sea, was wounded….
It is this head that John is concentrating on….
And the following scripture in that revelation chapter speak of that head being healed…And it is only after it is healed that all the world marvels at this head/empire.
So then, we should discern that it is only this past wounded head, the only head out of all the others, that alters in the last days…that is, it is made whole again, meaning that this head becomes operational once more, meaning that the other heads never change and remain that which they were in the past…Which leads to my point that those kingdoms you say are now Muslim territories, as though what they are now has any bearing on what they were, and what they are recorded as, in fact have no bearing on modern events related to your interpretation thus cancelling out another aspect of your interpretation regarding the beast being an Islamic beast.
It is not, it is a European based/origin beast.Sorry about my wording, im a bit distracted at the moment and rambled on…but im sure you understand what im getting at.
Cheers.
Hi Devolution,The Ottoman empire was muslim, it was this head
that suffered a deadly wound and was healed.
Keep asking questions that's how we learn!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 17, 2012 at 1:17 pm#302826DevolutionParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 16 2012,07:27) Quote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,19:30) Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,18:54) Quote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,18:37) Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,16:18) Hi Devolution, The 10 horned beast in Daniel and the beast of Rev.13:1-2 are different beasts.
God bless
Ed J
Hi Ed,When the beast of Revelation 13:1-2 rose up out of the water, what relevant and telling revelation did you notice about his heads?
Cheers.
Hi Devolution,I'm not sure what you're driving at?
Could you be a tad bit more specific?God bless
Ed J
Sure Ed,All of the beasts heads were past kingdoms of which we know…
however, one head, even after the beast rose up out of the sea, was wounded….
It is this head that John is concentrating on….
And the following scripture in that revelation chapter speak of that head being healed…And it is only after it is healed that all the world marvels at this head/empire.
So then, we should discern that it is only this past wounded head, the only head out of all the others, that alters in the last days…that is, it is made whole again, meaning that this head becomes operational once more, meaning that the other heads never change and remain that which they were in the past…Which leads to my point that those kingdoms you say are now Muslim territories, as though what they are now has any bearing on what they were, and what they are recorded as, in fact have no bearing on modern events related to your interpretation thus cancelling out another aspect of your interpretation regarding the beast being an Islamic beast.
It is not, it is a European based/origin beast.Sorry about my wording, im a bit distracted at the moment and rambled on…but im sure you understand what im getting at.
Cheers.
Hi Devolution,The Ottoman empire was muslim, it was this head
that suffered a deadly wound and was healed.
Keep asking questions that's how we learn!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,Ed, i don't think the western world is going to willingly and enthusiastically flock to a Muslim cause of global dominance now..do you?
June 17, 2012 at 1:52 pm#302828terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 16 2012,14:27) Quote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,19:30) Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,18:54) Quote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,18:37) Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,16:18) Hi Devolution, The 10 horned beast in Daniel and the beast of Rev.13:1-2 are different beasts.
God bless
Ed J
Hi Ed,When the beast of Revelation 13:1-2 rose up out of the water, what relevant and telling revelation did you notice about his heads?
Cheers.
Hi Devolution,I'm not sure what you're driving at?
Could you be a tad bit more specific?God bless
Ed J
Sure Ed,All of the beasts heads were past kingdoms of which we know…
however, one head, even after the beast rose up out of the sea, was wounded….
It is this head that John is concentrating on….
And the following scripture in that revelation chapter speak of that head being healed…And it is only after it is healed that all the world marvels at this head/empire.
So then, we should discern that it is only this past wounded head, the only head out of all the others, that alters in the last days…that is, it is made whole again, meaning that this head becomes operational once more, meaning that the other heads never change and remain that which they were in the past…Which leads to my point that those kingdoms you say are now Muslim territories, as though what they are now has any bearing on what they were, and what they are recorded as, in fact have no bearing on modern events related to your interpretation thus cancelling out another aspect of your interpretation regarding the beast being an Islamic beast.
It is not, it is a European based/origin beast.Sorry about my wording, im a bit distracted at the moment and rambled on…but im sure you understand what im getting at.
Cheers.
Hi Devolution,The Ottoman empire was muslim, it was this head
that suffered a deadly wound and was healed.
Keep asking questions that's how we learn!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjMoslems did never be part of the seven world power is it
June 17, 2012 at 10:58 pm#302872Ed JParticipantQuote (Devolution @ June 18 2012,00:17) Hi Ed, Ed, i don't think the western world is going to willingly and enthusiastically flock to a Muslim cause of global dominance now..do you?
Hi Devolution,I don't either.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 18, 2012 at 11:14 am#302973DevolutionParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,09:58) Quote (Devolution @ June 18 2012,00:17) Hi Ed, Ed, i don't think the western world is going to willingly and enthusiastically flock to a Muslim cause of global dominance now..do you?
Hi Devolution,I don't either.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,I think i know what you mean with your answer Ed.
But to counter that “forced takeover” i assume you are hinting at, you must remember that the whole world will wonder and follow this man, the false prophet, when he rises.Everybody accepts him and joins his empire willingly (Rev 13:3…..and all the world wondered after the beast), of which he, the false prophet instructs them all to obey (worship) Rev 13:12…and he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
It is the ones who disobey who 'cop it' Ed.
And the wars that eventually will come, will be against the Muslims Ed…wars by these two beasts against the Muslim nations who turn against him near the end.Keep asking questions Ed, it's how we learn 😉
September 14, 2012 at 9:16 pm#312860WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 18 2012,09:58) Quote (Devolution @ June 18 2012,00:17) Hi Ed, Ed, i don't think the western world is going to willingly and enthusiastically flock to a Muslim cause of global dominance now..do you?
Hi Devolution,I don't either.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.Shoebat is not a true prophet; his teachings has more holes than a sieve.
wakeup.
September 14, 2012 at 9:27 pm#312862Ed JParticipantHi Wakeup,
John the baptist was the last Prophet. (See Luke 16:16)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 14, 2012 at 9:37 pm#312865WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,08:27) Hi Wakeup, John the baptist was the last Prophet. (See Luke 16:16)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.I know that.
shoebat thinks he is a prophet,doesnt he?
Or does he call himself a servant of God?
What ever he calls himself he does not teach the truth.wakeup.
September 14, 2012 at 9:42 pm#312868Ed JParticipantSo is Muhammad a 'false prophet' then?
September 14, 2012 at 9:52 pm#312871WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,08:42) So is Muhammad a 'false prophet' then?
EdJ.The prophets are untill John the baptist.
But we have false prophets after john,therefore they are fals.
Mohamad is called a prophet by the muslems.
The beast out of the earth is called a prophet.
But they are all false.Notradamus is also called a prophet by the world.
Mat.24:11. And many false prophets shall arise and deceive many.wakeup.
September 14, 2012 at 10:00 pm#312873Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2012,08:52) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,08:42) So is Muhammad a 'false prophet' then?
EdJ.The prophets are untill John the baptist.
But we have false prophets after john,therefore they are fals.
Mohamad is called a prophet by the muslems.
The beast out of the earth is called a prophet.
But they are all false.Notradamus is also called a prophet by the world.
Mat.24:11. And many false prophets shall arise and deceive many.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,But not all 'false prophets' make fire (the quran) come down (Rev.13:13)
from heaven in the sight of men. (See Galatians 1:8-9 and 2Cor.11:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)September 14, 2012 at 10:59 pm#312883WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,09:00) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2012,08:52) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,08:42) So is Muhammad a 'false prophet' then?
EdJ.The prophets are untill John the baptist.
But we have false prophets after john,therefore they are fals.
Mohamad is called a prophet by the muslems.
The beast out of the earth is called a prophet.
But they are all false.Notradamus is also called a prophet by the world.
Mat.24:11. And many false prophets shall arise and deceive many.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,But not all 'false prophets' make fire (the quran) come down (Rev.13:13)
from heaven in the sight of men. (See Galatians 1:8-9 and 2Cor.11:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
EDj.The false prophet will,and it si not the qur'an.
He is not come yet ,but very soon an dwill will see his face on the tube.
he is our enemy, he will cause a lot of trouble for the christians.Do not focus on the muslems, but focus on europe and america.If you can get out of there do so.
wakeup.
September 14, 2012 at 11:04 pm#312886Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,09:00) Hi Wakeup, But not all 'false prophets' make fire (the quran) come down (Rev.13:13)
from heaven in the sight of men. (See Galatians 1:8-9 and 2Cor.11:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Wakeup,The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan!
It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message.Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)September 14, 2012 at 11:17 pm#312888WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,10:04) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,09:00) Hi Wakeup, But not all 'false prophets' make fire (the quran) come down (Rev.13:13)
from heaven in the sight of men. (See Galatians 1:8-9 and 2Cor.11:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Wakeup,The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan!
It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message.Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
EdJ.I agree,but it is speaking of anoyher GOSPEL.
The qur'an is not the GOSPEL.
I do agree that it is inspired by the devil,but not another GOSPEL but another religion.Ed,do you know that the lakes in your country are being sucked dry by the multi corps,and put in bottles and sold as clean drinking water,plus some uranium and lithium added,to make you weaker and sick.
This is making big money;more than oil.
They could be doing it here too,our water is depleting.wakeup.
September 14, 2012 at 11:47 pm#312894Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,10:04) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,09:00) Hi Wakeup, But not all 'false prophets' make fire (the quran) come down (Rev.13:13)
from heaven in the sight of men. (See Galatians 1:8-9 and 2Cor.11:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Wakeup,The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan!
It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message.Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Wakeup,Are you still having trouble seeing that Muhammad is “The False Prophet” of Rev.13:11?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)September 14, 2012 at 11:50 pm#312895WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,10:47) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,10:04) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,09:00) Hi Wakeup, But not all 'false prophets' make fire (the quran) come down (Rev.13:13)
from heaven in the sight of men. (See Galatians 1:8-9 and 2Cor.11:14)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Wakeup,The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan!
It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message.Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Hi Wakeup,Are you still having trouble seeing that Muhammad is “The False Prophet” of Rev.13:11?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
EdJ.You are having trouble seeing, that it is not.
wakeup.
September 15, 2012 at 3:32 am#312920terrariccaParticipantwup and edj
first could you guy s agree what it takes to be a 1) ANTICHRIST , AND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE AN 2) FALSE PROPHET
PLEASE ANSWER THOSE TWO QUESTIONS ;
September 15, 2012 at 5:39 am#312931WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2012,14:32) wup and edj first could you guy s agree what it takes to be a 1) ANTICHRIST , AND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE AN 2) FALSE PROPHET
PLEASE ANSWER THOSE TWO QUESTIONS ;
Terra.Antichrists,are they that are against the teachings of Chist.
A false prophet is one that claims to be a prophet send by God; But he prophesies lies.wakeup.
September 15, 2012 at 10:46 am#312944Ed JParticipantHi Pierre and Wakeup,
All seven (7) of those world Empires were all 'Antichrist', and now
Muhammadin islam(8th) teaches the whole world to be 'Antichrist'.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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