IS MOHAMAD THE FALSE PROPHET?

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,14:39)

Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2012,21:23) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,13:53) Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2012,18:55) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,10:37) edj what is the diference between an ANTICHRIST AND AN FALSE PROPHET ?? Hi Pierre, 'Spirit of antichrist' is the spirit that is against Christ. A 'False Prophet' is a prophet that prophecies falsely. God bless Ed J edj I know but how in practice is it different are those two not synonym to each other ?? Hi Pierre, I don't believe there is a 'the antichrist'; it is the 'spirit of antichrist'. 'The false prophet' mentioned in Rev.13:11 is Muhammad, and islam is the kingdom of the spirit of antichrist. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org edj so you don't know

Don't know what?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2012,21:55)

Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,14:39) Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2012,21:23) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,13:53) Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2012,18:55) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,10:37) edj what is the diference between an ANTICHRIST AND AN FALSE PROPHET ?? Hi Pierre, 'Spirit of antichrist' is the spirit that is against Christ. A 'False Prophet' is a prophet that prophecies falsely. God bless Ed J edj I know but how in practice is it different are those two not synonym to each other ?? Hi Pierre, I don't believe there is a 'the antichrist'; it is the 'spirit of antichrist'. 'The false prophet' mentioned in Rev.13:11 is Muhammad, and islam is the kingdom of the spirit of antichrist. Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org edj so you don't know Don't know what?

I know but how in practice is it different

[Devolution]

Quote (Ed J @ June 12 2012,10:04)

Ed,

                                     

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Head 1: Egypt  -one head -one horn -one crown                                      Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown Head of gold:                Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4) Arms of silver:               Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown               …Bear (Daniel 7:5) Thighs of brass:            Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns                   …Leopard (Daniel 7:6) Feet of iron & clay:        Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown                             …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)                                          Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown

Ed,
This is incorrect.

Daniel 7:19
   Then i would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass, which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet.

Daniel 7:20
   And of the TEN HORNS which were in HIS HEAD……

There are your ten horns Ed.
They are not divided amongst the seven heads, but instead, are found and declared in scripture, simply,  as being found on one head.  

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Muhammad did not have a world empire, but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of the beast with the deadly wound.

Since Muhammad did not have a world empire as you admitted, and knowing that the heads of the beast stand for empires, as you also acknowledge, and the head that was on the beast which was wounded when the beast rose up out of the sea, being representative of a wounded empire, then that wounded head can not stand for Muhammad or Islam now can it. For it is a wounded world empire of which Muhammad/Islam never had.

So if Muhammad never had an empire to begin with, how can the wounded empire stand for Muhammad/Islam today, when that same wounded head never stood for Muhammad/Islam to begin with?

Again, as you even admitted:

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Muhammad did not have a world empire, but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of the beast with the deadly wound.

Can't you see the contradiction?

[Ed J]

Hi Devolution,

Islam is based on what Muhammad started,
and all 7 of those territories are now islamic.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Devolution]

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,05:21)

Hi Devolution, Islam is based on what Muhammad started, and all 7 of those territories are now islamic. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

Greece is not a muslim territory nor part of an empire any more.
Italy is not a muslim territory nor part of an empire any more either.
The heads represented empires.
Nevertheless, do Christians in Egypt make Egypt a Christian territory?

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Head 1: Egypt  -one head -one horn -one crown                                     Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown Head of gold:                Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4) Arms of silver:               Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown               …Bear (Daniel 7:5) Thighs of brass:            Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns                   …Leopard (Daniel 7:6) Feet of iron & clay:        Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown                             …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)                                         Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown

Daniel 8:20
   The ram which thou saw having two horns are the kings of Media Persia.

Even though i fully disagree with this interpretaion of yours Ed, shouldn't Media Persia read 2 horns not 1.

And the horns allocated to Greece can quite easily be challenged also.

We can give Greece 1 horn or 4 horns or even 5 horns depending on which scriptures to accept and which to ignore…

Cheers.

[Ed J]

Quote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,07:22)

Hi Ed, Daniel 8:20    The ram which thou saw having two horns are the kings of Media Persia. Even though i fully disagree with this interpretaion of yours Ed, shouldn't Media Persia read 2 horns not 1. Cheers.

Hi Devolution,

Thank you for your willingness to discuss fulfilled Prophecy!

“And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear,
and it raised up itself on one side” (Daniel 7:5)

Persia being stronger then the Meds.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Devolution,

The Roman empire having all ten horns represents
the spirit of antichrist putting Christ to death through them. (see Daniel 7:9-10)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Devolution,

I was referring to the territories that 'THEY' CONTROLLED,
not the majority of the modern individual countries.
I hope that you can see the difference here.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,07:42)

Hi Devolution, I was referring to the territories that 'THEY' CONTROLLED, not the majority of the modern individual countries. I hope that you can see the difference here. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

I have to join in here;In daniel 7:7.The dreadful beast With the 10 horns,and a little horn with eyes and a mouth speaking great things.
This dreadful beast -WILL- be cast into the lake of fire. Dan7:11.(at the coming).

This is the same beast that will be cast into the lake of fire,at the coming. rev.19:20.(the 10 horned beast and the false prophet(little horn with a mouth and eyes.).
This is the end time beast.( this beast is coming soon).

You can not get out if your false doctrine, scripture can not be corrupted without twisting and turning it to will.One will get bogged down.This is the beauty of the scriptures.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

            I suggest that take God's warning seriously.

“No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation” (2 Peter 1:20)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 15 2012,09:41)

EDJ. You can not get out if your false doctrine… wakeup.

What false doctrine?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,17:07)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 15 2012,09:41) EDJ. You can not get out if your false doctrine… wakeup. What false doctrine?

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre,

I forgot that everything that you disagree with falls
into that category regardless of what Scripture says; right?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,21:56)

Hi Pierre, I forgot that everything that you disagree with falls into that category regardless of what Scripture says; right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

what a waist ,you must think that I am a old fool

[Devolution]

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,09:49)

Hi Wakeup,             I suggest that take God's warning seriously. “No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation” (2 Peter 1:20) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

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Head 1: Egypt  -one head -one horn -one crown                                     Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown Head of gold:                Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown                           …Lion (Daniel 7:4) Arms of silver:               Head 4: Medo-Persians -one head -one horn -one crown               …Bear (Daniel 7:5) Thighs of brass:            Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns                   …Leopard (Daniel 7:6) Feet of iron & clay:        Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown                             …ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)                                         Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown

Ed, you have warned Wakeup about private interpretation, and me also in another thread.
My question to you is, what are you indulging in concerning your interpretation above?
That interpretation can not be found anywhere in scripture.
And what you have done is spread 10 horns amongst 7 heads, and doing that without scripture to back your interpretation, of which, again,  is nowhere in scripture, and have posted it declaring it as the confirmed word of God!!

Yet, scripture has been shown to you concerning the 10 horns, and where those 10 horns are to be found, which totally cancels out the above interpretation, and you ignore it so as to keep your preferred interpretation?
What can that practice only be called in Gods eyes?
Obeying the truth of scripture or self interpreting?

Again:

Daniel 7:19
  Then i would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass, which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet.

Daniel 7:20
  And of the TEN HORNS which were in HIS HEAD……

Just because we sincerely hope an interpretation to be true so as to fit a preferred doctrine, this is not acceptable before God.
And those who ignore plain scripture when provided, so as to keep a preferred interpretation, will be given up by God to be tossed by the waves of “seas of doctrines”, and even what truth one doing this would have, even that will eventually be taken away…for you are not putting God first practicing such things.
“Blessed is he who is not offended in me”  
This covers many aspects in ones walk towards God and his truth.
Truth must come before personal preferences…even if we don't want it to…do not let the truth offend you Ed.

[Ed J]

Hi Devolution,

The 10 horned beast in Daniel and the beast of Rev.13:1-2 are different beasts.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Devolution]

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,16:18)

Hi Devolution, The 10 horned beast in Daniel and the beast of Rev.13:1-2 are different beasts. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

When the beast of Revelation 13:1-2 rose up out of the water, what relevant and telling revelation did you notice about his heads?

Cheers.

[Ed J]

Quote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,18:37)

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,16:18) Hi Devolution, The 10 horned beast in Daniel and the beast of Rev.13:1-2 are different beasts. God bless Ed J Hi Ed, When the beast of Revelation 13:1-2 rose up out of the water, what relevant and telling revelation did you notice about his heads? Cheers.

Hi Devolution,

I'm not sure what you're driving at?
Could you be a tad bit more specific?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Devolution]

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,18:54)

Quote (Devolution @ June 15 2012,18:37) Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2012,16:18) Hi Devolution, The 10 horned beast in Daniel and the beast of Rev.13:1-2 are different beasts. God bless Ed J Hi Ed, When the beast of Revelation 13:1-2 rose up out of the water, what relevant and telling revelation did you notice about his heads? Cheers. Hi Devolution, I'm not sure what you're driving at? Could you be a tad bit more specific? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Sure Ed,

All of the beasts heads were past kingdoms of which we know…
however, one head, even after the beast rose up out of the sea, was wounded….
It is this head that John is concentrating on….
And the following scripture in that revelation chapter speak of that head being healed…

And it is only after it is healed that all the world marvels at this head/empire.
So then, we should discern that it is only this past wounded head, the only head out of all the others, that alters in the last days…that is, it is made whole again, meaning that this head becomes operational once more, meaning that the other heads never change and remain that which they were in the past…

Which leads to my point that those kingdoms you say are now Muslim territories, as though what they are now has any bearing on what they were, and what they are recorded as, in fact have no bearing on modern events related to your interpretation thus cancelling out another aspect of your interpretation regarding the beast being an Islamic beast.
It is not, it is a European based/origin beast.

Sorry about my wording, im a bit distracted at the moment and rambled on…but im sure you understand what im getting at.

Cheers.

[terraricca]

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there his also the height king what is part of the seven

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