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- October 31, 2014 at 10:12 pm#781340WakeupParticipant
Is Jesus Christ ruling now and has been ruling for 2000years? As many teach?
2000years is along time, and He still has not managed to bring peace on earth. (what a ruler).
But instead we have, more wars, and more confusion, more Christ haters; and on top of that, the falling away is coming. Why is it so?
Why is His church divided in many splinters? Should she not be one in spirit?
He also said: A house divided can not stand.
Is He incapable of ruling or is He not? Does He know what he is doing? For the house is in shambles.
God rules in heaven, and all is good and Holy; why the great difference? (The opposite I say).
Is it possible that the shepherds have been telling lies about Jesus Christ the Son of God?
Yes,lies for sure, because He shall rule with a rod of iron, and there will be peace in his kingdom,
and knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. This is not the case as for today and the past.
Christ kingdom will be a wonderful kingdom; with no pain, no tears, no wars. spears tuned into pruning hooks, swords into ploughshares.
All these things the world has not experienced up to today; because it is coming.
To teach that Jesus is ruling now for 2000years is a great lie, purposely picturing Jesus as an incapable king.
Does the flock realise that? Bringing Jesus down, instead of worshipping Him? Should we not worship Him as a mighty king, instead of an incapable king. A king that can not bring peace and God loving to his flock, despite all those years of ruling?
If he is truly ruling now; why should there be a test for His people? Should all his people not be excellent students;
having the best master as a teacher? But instead we have divisions and strive amongst his people. How come?
Instead; many are still trying to find out Who Jesus is, and what He is. They don’t even know Him.
This is really mind blowing, what the world has done to the flock, and the flock just carry on as of all is normal and good.
Because they believe that they are all in a good and save position, so there is nothing to worry about.
My question is; Are you truly dwelling in the spiritual city of God called Zion?
If you are; then you have come out of the spiritual city of the deceiver.(Babylon) you have no bond with her.
This means that you have nothing to do with Babylon spiritually. No cheating, lying, fornications, following the lust of the flesh.
No adultery, worshipping other gods, superstitions, lust for the material, instead of lust for knowing God and His Word.
Thy kingdom COME, thy will be done on earth as in heaven. That kingdom will be manifest on earth, in Israel; for a 1000years.
The resurrected saints will rule as kings and priests,they will be the master teachers, and know what they are doing.
There will be peace on earth. Jesus as king of kings ruling over the gentiles with a rod of iron.
Seek to be worthy of this kingdom.
Shalom.
wakeup.
November 1, 2014 at 12:40 am#781343SpockParticipantYes, it is his creation, he has been ruling from the beginning. Your impatience is your problem, everything is on schedule according to the wisdom of The Most Highs.
Christianity didn’t remain true to the original gospel, Christianity is house divided, it can’t get out of it’s own way.
Christianity lost faith early in the original pre-cross gospel, new laws, a new Sanhedrin-like institution and new mystery books purported to have been written by God became a substitute.
November 1, 2014 at 2:08 am#781344SpockParticipantWakeup,
You said “The god of this world has produced many different kinds of believe systems to confuse.”
But you seem confused, you claim God wrote the Bible books but the books don’t even claim that. You claim there is only one God but then you teach Satan is a God and that the other God has two wills?
Your teaching is really inconsonant, that’s why people aren’t buying it.
November 2, 2014 at 3:52 pm#781818WakeupParticipantSpock.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
You don’t go by the scriptures, so I guess that don’t mean anything to you.Satan is the god of the system of the world, and also the god of them that follow the spirit of the world.
They worship him as a god. True Christians know that he is a false god. They only worship God’s system.
You don’t worship the God of the holy bible; but the god of the urantia book; the false god.wakeup.
November 3, 2014 at 5:45 am#781938journey42ParticipantYes, it is his creation, he has been ruling from the beginning. Your impatience is your problem, everything is on schedule according to the wisdom of The Most Highs.
Spock
There is only one Most High.
Christianity didn’t remain true to the original gospel, Christianity is house divided, it can’t get out of it’s own way.
Your god the deceiver divided Christianity. The christians that got deceived by him came in through the back door.
The true worshipers are not divided, but in unity. One doctrine.
You probably can’t pick it, because there are so few.Many are called, but few chosen.
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Jeremiah 51:33 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.
Christianity lost faith early in the original pre-cross gospel, new laws, a new Sanhedrin-like institution and new mystery books purported to have been written by God became a substitute.
The writers of the holy bible are inspired by God. Every word recorded is a testimony that these people, and places existed.
Every word recorded for their benefit, and ours.Your Urantia cannot prove anything. It has no substance, just rumours. Your house will be broken as well.
Lets see if the god of your book can prophesy accurately. No he cannot because he has been blocked. Come out of the darkness Spock, there is no light there.November 3, 2014 at 6:35 am#781946Ed JParticipantSpock.
Satan is the god of the system of the world, and also the god of them that follow the spirit of the world.
They worship him as a god. True Christians know that he is a false god. They only worship God’s system.Hi Wajeup,
You mean the one you’re waiting for: God’s Kingdom when you get resurrected?
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNovember 3, 2014 at 6:43 am#781947Ed JParticipant“Thine eyes (Ed J) shall see “the king”(=Jesus) in his beauty: ‘they’ shall behold the land that is very far off.” (Isaiah 33:17)
November 3, 2014 at 6:50 am#781948Ed JParticipantMr.Spocks is very far off (center of the universe)
And yours Wakeup is very far off (in the future)But I see “the king” in his beauty, because Christ returned on Pentecost. (ref. 2Cor.5:16)
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNovember 3, 2014 at 9:40 am#781954CamilliaParticipantBut I see “the king” in his beauty, because Christ returned on Pentecost. (ref. 2Cor.5:16)
Ed, the Holy Spirit returned on Pentecost?
November 3, 2014 at 9:43 am#781955CamilliaParticipant“Thine eyes (Ed J) shall see “the king”(=Jesus) in his beauty: ‘they’ shall behold the land that is very far off.” (Isaiah 33:17)
I agree with this. Do you mean in vision.
November 3, 2014 at 9:10 pm#781973Ed JParticipant“Thine eyes (Ed J) shall see “the king”(=Jesus) in his beauty: ‘they’ shall behold the land that is very far off.” (Isaiah 33:17)
I agree with this. Do you mean in vision.
Hi Camillia,
No, I mean is this: Christ returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”. (ref. John 14:23)
And the spirit of Christ baptizes us with the “HolSpirit” and fire. (ref. Matthew 3″11)___________
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNovember 3, 2014 at 9:13 pm#781974Ed JParticipant“Thine eyes (Ed J) shall see “the king”(=Jesus) in his beauty: ‘they’ shall behold the land that is very far off.” (Isaiah 33:17)
I agree with this. Do you mean in vision.
Hi Camillia,
No
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _________________________________________________________________________________________________________
”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODNovember 4, 2014 at 5:46 am#782024SpockParticipant2 Samuel 24:1 – Anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, number Israel and
Judah.”…….. 200 years later
1 Chron 21:1 – SATAN stood up against Israel, and incited David to number Israel.
Oh yea, there is Wakeup’s double minded Satan God who writes different facts at different times.
November 4, 2014 at 7:36 am#782027WakeupParticipantSpock.
Just because you have not learned how to divide the scriptures, you blame the writings.
That only poves that God is in charge of everything, even satan.
Satan is the hammer and God is the one holding it.(isa.10).
wakeup.
November 4, 2014 at 7:49 am#782030SpockParticipantGod is truth, Satan was error, a five year old child knows the difference. Evil fruit and good fruit do not exist on the same vine.
For you to say that Satan does Gods will using evil make you a genuine fool!
The matter is a very simple one, when Samuel was written the prevailing though in Judaism was that Yahweh caused both good an evil. 200 years later when Chronicles was written the men who wrote the it no longer believed that.
The problem with making the bible an authoritative fetish or idol is that it was written by priest not God. The many errors within it is proof.
November 4, 2014 at 7:55 am#782031WakeupParticipantEdj.
Scripture says that there is the first coming and the second coming.(period).
You are teaching that there is a third coming. You got the third coming of the wine you are drinking.
1.First coming is his birth.
2. Second coming is recorded in rev,19.
3.Third coming is your invention.
wakeup.
November 4, 2014 at 8:05 am#782032WakeupParticipantSpock.
I did not expect you to understand.
There can not be good if there is no evil; and there can not be evil if there is no good.
There can not be light if there is no darkness, and there can not be darkness if there is no light.
But when man have learned to experience darkness, and have conquered it; darkness will be done away with.
Can you understand this?
wakeup.
November 4, 2014 at 9:11 am#782038SpockParticipantI figured your excuse making would be more arrogance.
God is perfect, any being other than God, such as finite man, or brilliant celestial, can only be relative in perfection. No sin beast to trick people required.
Satan and his followers rebelled against God, they weren’t doing Gods will. It was not Gods will for anyone to Sin.
November 4, 2014 at 9:41 am#782042WakeupParticipantSpock.
You have a habit of shooting the messenger, not the message.(sign of insecurity).
Attack the message if you can, with your lack of understanding of scriptures.
But this is the problem: I teach apples; and you teach onions.
The two can not be compared, they are of different species.
It is a waist of time.wakeup.
November 4, 2014 at 10:40 am#782045CamilliaParticipantHi Camillia,
No, I mean is this: Christ returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”. (ref. John 14:23)
And the spirit of Christ baptizes us with the “HolSpirit” and fire. (ref. Matthew 3″11)Ed, I know we have been over this before but how can you reconcile there being in your opinion two spirits, where scripture says there is only one spirit. And doesn’t scripture also tell us to beware of anyone saying Christ has returned already? I’m not saying definitely that you are wrong because I have had and have heard of people’s encounters…….. but how do you reconcile those differences? There is only one spirit (the Holy Spirit) – the spirit of Christ IS the Holy Spirit, (in scripture).
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