Is allof God?

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  • #58648
    chosenone
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    Again, as soon as you are shown scripture that you are wrong, you change the subject. When you admit the gospel has changed as I have given scripture showing this, that you asked for, then we can go on to your next subject. Until then it is useless for me to be discussing a subject regarding scripture with you, because when trapped, you change the subject. What's the point, you continue to run around in circles.

    #58649
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Co,
    There is one gospel.
    It is eternal.
    Jn14

    “6And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people; “
    What is this gospel?

    #58650
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,11:55)
    Hi CO,
    Can you show ONE of Pauls' letters
    addressed to the nations?


    Hi CO,
    You forgot to answer.

    #58651
    chosenone
    Participant

    My bible of Jn.14:6 says:
    5 Thomas is saying to Him, “Lord, we are not aware whither Thou art going, and how can we be aware of the way?”
    6 Jesus is saying to him, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one is coming to the Father except through Me.
    7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also. And henceforth you know Him and have seen Him.”
    8 Philip is saying to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficing us.”
    ?

    #58653
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,13:16)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,11:55)
    Hi CO,
    Can you show ONE of Pauls' letters
    addressed to the nations?


    Hi CO,
    You forgot to answer.


    I didn't forget to answer, I will as soon as you answer the one you evaded, “remember?”

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    Nick.
    Now that I have given you the scripture you requested, (Col.1:25) Now maybe you will answer the question: If Paul was commissined to “complete the word of God”, then how could the new be the same as the old?
    As usual, you won't answer this question, after you were proved wrong. Or you will answer with another question, evading your response

    I'll do a “Nick”, not bother to answer, but evade it with another question, just so you know how it feels.
    By the way, I do have an answer to your question, but I won't give it until you respond to my question. Fair enough?

    #58659
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    So there are two gospels?

    #58660
    chosenone
    Participant

    Look at the post above your last one, the answer is there.

    #58663
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    You ask
    “If Paul was commissined to “complete the word of God”, then how could the new be the same as the old?”
    Only your adjusted version has the gospel being added to.
    There is only one gospel and you should get a truer version of the bible.

    #58665
    chosenone
    Participant

    Not my word, the word of God to Pauls commission, “to complete the word of God”. Simple? Yes.

    #58668
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    Adding to the Words of God is anathema.
    Paul did not bring another gospel

    #58714
    chosenone
    Participant

    It was God that commissioned Paul, “to complete the word of God”. God is completeing His word through Paul. This is scripture, that it is God who is completing His word. We are not “adding to the words of God”, it is God Himself ” completeing His word!

    #58728
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    So “completing the word” is changing the gospel?

    #58740
    chosenone
    Participant

    When something is completed, it is not the same as it was 'before' it was completed. Why God chose to do it this way, I'm not sure.
    But may I take a guess?
    First God made the “Jews”, His chosen people, destined to make them a nation of “priests and kings”. (If they were able to fullfill the 'law' and had accepted their “Messiah”), they would have entered the promised land, the “Kingdom” would have been realised, and they would have reigned, with Christ their King, teaching the Gentiles.
    Not realising that all is “predestined” (Eph.1:11), God could not reveal to them (the Jews), that they would be rejecting Christ, and be alienated from God, Who will be turning to the Gentiles. He (God), would have to complete the word after the rejection of the Jews (and that the gentiles were now included), or else The Jews, thinking they could enter the 'Promised Land' by their “obedience”, would have known their rejection was predestined. God will, at a later time, yet save “all Israel”, and fulfill their destination as a nation of 'preists and kings'. This, my explanation, is my understanding of “Gods plan” for all mankind.
    I am 'human', not infallible, and realise that this explanation may be faulty, some of it, or all of it. So please, disagree if you will, give your opinion as well, criticize if you must, but be not angry of my self, for, “All is of God, all is by Him, through Him, and for Him”.

    Blessings.

    #58741
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    The Gentiles are grafted into the Jewish olive tree.
    Same gospel for both.
    All could be saved.
    Many are called but few chosen.
    The clay does not judge the choice of the potter.

    #58744
    chosenone
    Participant

    So, you say God had no need to instuct Paul to complete His word? Just keep it as it was?

    #58749
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    You have one verse from an obscure version to support this idea.
    Do you have any more?
    Paul certainly enlarged and more fully expressed the vision shown by Jesus of what life in the kingdom involved but those words are only truly relevant to that group, those who have entered the kingdom by obedience to the gospel.
    He did not bring a new gospel or add to it.

    #58784
    chosenone
    Participant

    “One verse from an obscure version”? You need to read and understand scripture before making such a rediculous statement! Read “Colossians”, at least the first two chapters, more if you have time for the truth. It would benefit you much.

    #58786
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,

    Col1
    ” 1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,

    2To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.”

    Itseems to be written to the saints and not the nations.

    #58842
    chosenone
    Participant

    The “saints” ARE in the nations, look to the address before each of Pauls epistles, are these not the nations? You amaze me with your trying desperately to discredit Gods word, so you can promote “the gospel of Nick”.

    #58856
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi CO,
    So if saints are the holy ones then are all the nations holy?
    Not from my view.

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