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Quote (Stu @ Aug. 13 2008,12:12) Is your concern that your god is unable to defend himself without your assistance? Stuart
He is. That is why we are done talking.I had been away for so long that I actually forgot that some people that were non-believers could not post in certain areas.
So maybe I'll hang around a bit.
See how it goes…Cause, I don't have a problem with casting my pearls before swine in the Believers section.
Quote (Samuel @ Aug. 14 2008,22:36) Cause, I don't have a problem with casting my pearls before swine in the Believers section.
Nothing beats the dehumanization of others by quoting the holy book!Yes that is true. When you find yourself on the other side of what the scriptures say, you have at least 3 choices. Change, don't change and feel bad, or don't change and believe that scripture is not credible.
Thing is, it doesn't bother me what the book says, but statements like that drive a further wedge in humanity. Christianity is just another reason for bigotry.
And yet you drive a wedge by ridiculing the God spoken of in scripture and those who follow him. Others here just trust scripture and scripture certainly does bring a divide, i.e., righteous and wicked, but keeping petty opinions to oneself is wise.
So what is worse? Ones own prejudice to bring a divide or the scriptural divide of good and evil?
I think that there is a case to be made for division as there are certain people that you just don't put together in the same room (so to speak). But if everyone just practiced division based on their own prejudice, it would lead to the ruin of planet earth in no time at all because we are all different. To some degree people have learned to tolerate difference to keep things going. But the division of light and darkness is a division that just happens given that both cannot exist in the same area or space. Any other division is pointless and is in the opposite spirit of being a peace maker.
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,08:02) And yet you drive a wedge by ridiculing the God spoken of in scripture and those who follow him. Others here just trust scripture and scripture certainly does bring a divide, i.e., righteous and wicked, but keeping petty opinions to oneself is wise. So what is worse? Ones own prejudice to bring a divide or the scriptural divide of good and evil?
I think that there is a case to be made for division as there are certain people that you just don't put together in the same room (so to speak). But if everyone just practiced division based on their own prejudice, it would lead to the ruin of planet earth in no time at all because we are all different. To some degree people have learned to tolerate difference to keep things going. But the division of light and darkness is a division that just happens given that both cannot exist in the same area or space. Any other division is pointless and is in the opposite spirit of being a peace maker.
They have learned to tolerate difference though the bible does not hold to tolerance. Why is that?Oh, and where have I ridiculed individuals? Only the bible. Sorry, don't say things of me that are untrue.
Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 16 2008,08:28) They have learned to tolerate difference though the bible does not hold to tolerance. Why is that?
There is little tolerance of those who claim to be of the truth and are not. Those that do not claim such and live wickedly are tolerated from what I can see.The Pharisees got the biggest rebukes from Jesus whereas the wicked he tried to help.
Pharisees these days seem to be made up of people who were once believers or those who don't know God as much as religion. Most hecklers and persecutors that I have met were once believers. But there is a scripture that explains why that is.
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,01:02) But the division of light and darkness is a division that just happens given that both cannot exist in the same area or space. Any other division is pointless and is in the opposite spirit of being a peace maker.
Amen to that, bro!Mandy
the only thing that won't be tolerated is intolerance!
Of course tolerance used to mean respecting another's rights despite different beliefs, now many want it to mean you must respect their belief and hold it as equal to your own.
Wm
Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2008,16:43) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,01:02) But the division of light and darkness is a division that just happens given that both cannot exist in the same area or space. Any other division is pointless and is in the opposite spirit of being a peace maker.
Amen to that, bro!Mandy
so much fro the scripture …well we needed to end at the lamb and the wolf dwelling together in peace, complete tolerance?And The gossip of John smashes that very old prophecy to void!
by one sided…high willed in tolerant Nature, presuming it has got all correct!Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Is the Grace extended for the children of Lies, and their Father?
You JUST DON'T GET THE CHANCE TO FILFILL THE DAYS OF ARRIVING AT UNDERSTANDING, FOR THE ABUSE IS CONSISTENT at every corner street, to accuse, smiting the spirits to either good or bad seed, hopelessness.The accuser in wolves clothing stamping the peace away, with iron legs made of words, while claiming the throne of Life, for elected.
I certainly don't respect the belief system of Wicca, for instance. For what does light have to do with the dark? We walk in the light and that is where we have fellowship with one another. If we have fellowship with one another (those who believe) then we will have a level of tolerance for various beliefs within the Christian umbrella. For no one is qualified to say who is a sheep and who is a goat.
I believe that judgement is reserved for the One who is qualified.
MandyCharity,
Forgive me, but if that last post from you is for me…..I'm not quite sure I understand it well enough to respond. I'm sorry, sis.Love you,
MandyQuote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2008,17:33) Charity,
Forgive me, but if that last post from you is for me…..I'm not quite sure I understand it well enough to respond. I'm sorry, sis.Love you,
Mandy
All good..hey it's Late for you!We WILL NEVER BE IN PEACE untill the created Satan is destroyed, and while people want to burn people with him there will be no attemp Made to evolve and learn peace.
luv you too
charity
“…..learn peace…”
I love that! Maybe we can hope for it.
Sweet dreams (I'm off to bed. The kids go to camp in the morning for a whole week….it will be quiet around here!)
MandyQuote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2008,17:44) “…..learn peace…” I love that! Maybe we can hope for it.
Sweet dreams (I'm off to bed. The kids go to camp in the morning for a whole week….it will be quiet around here!)
Mandy
yer Im going to have fish and chips on the beach…camp, oh yer…thats exciting for the Kids, a whole week away…
sweet dreams, Talk soon
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,22:31) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 16 2008,08:28) They have learned to tolerate difference though the bible does not hold to tolerance. Why is that?
There is little tolerance of those who claim to be of the truth and are not. Those that do not claim such and live wickedly are tolerated from what I can see.What is truth? Truth to you may be fallacy to another. All you have to back up your claim, as far as religion is concerned, is a set of writings. The one who opposes your view of the truth may have his/her own set of writings to rely on.
Quote The Pharisees got the biggest rebukes from Jesus whereas the wicked he tried to help. Where the Pharisees not “wicked”? No, what you mean is that Jesus hung out with the non-religious crowd.
Quote Pharisees these days seem to be made up of people who were once believers or those who don't know God as much as religion. Most hecklers and persecutors that I have met were once believers. But there is a scripture that explains why that is.
No, Pharisees were those who took the oral Torah as well as the written. That is what Jesus was against. In fact, it seems Jesus — at least as far as the Markian version is concerned — didn't think a whole lot of the written Torah either.You fail to see that Pharisees were believers still, but that they had become wrapped up in their own interpretations of the “laws” of Yahweh. Jesus wanted to show that compassion and charity were more important than rituals and useless religiosity.
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