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    Wakeup
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    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    Mary is appearing around the world with a message,
    do you believe she is truly mary?

    wakeup.


    I m not familiar with that information… can you provide more info?


    Boditharta.

    Have you not heard that Mary has been appearing in
    itally;mexico; france(lourdes); healing and with a message of peace?

    Dont you know that Joseph Smith was visited by an angel
    and inspired him to write the book of mormon?
    Dont you know that Ellen white has been inspired by an angel, and saw visions. And started the Sda chuch,and split up into the jw's?

    She was found to dwell into spiritism?
    Let that be an example for us, not to dwell into new books
    inspired by angels.

    Because Satan also is a fallen cherub;and he has his prince's under him, each doing their job,to deceive the nations in many ways.

    wakeup.


    I understand your point but the FRUIT of ISLAM is EVIDENT

    It is surpassng Christendom as the number 1 religion, THIS GOSPEL is BEING PREACHED to THE ENDS of THE EARTH.

    This is despite bad press, wars and rumors of wars.


    Boditharta.

    What good has islam done for the world?
    What contribution have they brought forth?
    **We dont see fruits as how many are converted**.
    The catholics are also all over the world,
    but their land(spiritually) is desolate.
    They dont produce any fruits,but spiritual desolation.

    Worshipping idols, and saint, and angels.

    Islam has taught the followers to go straight to God,
    and disregarding the Son of God, HE; that lay down his life for us.

    Therefore a stumbling block to God.
    Jesus is a stumbling block to the jews,and to the muslems.

    wakeup.

    #350451
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,14:12)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2013,13:05)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2013,13:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 09 2013,14:52)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    Mary is appearing around the world with a message,
    do you believe she is truly mary?

    wakeup.


    I m not familiar with that information… can you provide more info?


    Boditharta.

    Have you not heard that Mary has been appearing in
    itally;mexico; france(lourdes); healing and with a message of peace?

    Dont you know that Joseph Smith was visited by an angel
    and inspired him to write the book of mormon?
    Dont you know that Ellen white has been inspired by an angel, and saw visions. And started the Sda chuch,and split up into the jw's?

    She was found to dwell into spiritism?
    Let that be an example for us, not to dwell into new books
    inspired by angels.

    Because Satan also is a fallen cherub;and he has his prince's under him, each doing their job,to deceive the nations in many ways.

    wakeup.


    I understand your point but the FRUIT of ISLAM is EVIDENT

    It is surpassng Christendom as the number 1 religion, THIS GOSPEL is BEING PREACHED to THE ENDS of THE EARTH.

    This is despite bad press, wars and rumors of wars.


    Boditharta.

    What good has islam done for the world?
    What contribution have they brought forth?
    **We dont see fruits as how many are converted**.
    The catholics are also all over the world,
    but their land(spiritually) is desolate.
    They dont produce any fruits,but spiritual desolation.

    Worshipping idols, and saint, and angels.

    Islam has taught the followers to go straight to God,
    and disregarding the Son of God, HE; that lay down his life for us.

    Therefore a stumbling block to God.
    Jesus is a stumbling block to the jews,and to the muslems.

    wakeup.


    When God said be fruitful and Multiply how is it you do not see that Multiplication is Fruitful.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki….hnology

    #350454
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2013,14:18)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,14:12)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2013,13:05)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2013,13:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 09 2013,14:52)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    Mary is appearing around the world with a message,
    do you believe she is truly mary?

    wakeup.


    I m not familiar with that information… can you provide more info?


    Boditharta.

    Have you not heard that Mary has been appearing in
    itally;mexico; france(lourdes); healing and with a message of peace?

    Dont you know that Joseph Smith was visited by an angel
    and inspired him to write the book of mormon?
    Dont you know that Ellen white has been inspired by an angel, and saw visions. And started the Sda chuch,and split up into the jw's?

    She was found to dwell into spiritism?
    Let that be an example for us, not to dwell into new books
    inspired by angels.

    Because Satan also is a fallen cherub;and he has his prince's under him, each doing their job,to deceive the nations in many ways.

    wakeup.


    I understand your point but the FRUIT of ISLAM is EVIDENT

    It is surpassng Christendom as the number 1 religion, THIS GOSPEL is BEING PREACHED to THE ENDS of THE EARTH.

    This is despite bad press, wars and rumors of wars.


    Boditharta.

    What good has islam done for the world?
    What contribution have they brought forth?
    **We dont see fruits as how many are converted**.
    The catholics are also all over the world,
    but their land(spiritually) is desolate.
    They dont produce any fruits,but spiritual desolation.

    Worshipping idols, and saint, and angels.

    Islam has taught the followers to go straight to God,
    and disregarding the Son of God, HE; that lay down his life for us.

    Therefore a stumbling block to God.
    Jesus is a stumbling block to the jews,and to the muslems.

    wakeup.


    When God said be fruitful and Multiply how is it you do not see that Multiplication is Fruitful.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki….hnology


    Boditharta.

    We must know how to devide the scriptures;
    Keep the spiritual to the spiritual;and the physical to the physical.

    God commanded Adam to be fruitful and multyply.
    This ofcourse is speaking about the physical,for adam have no followers; and God wanted the earth to be inhabited.

    A church with good fruits,is a church that is feeding the flock with knowledge. There are none;all have been feeding the flock with soothing words only.

    wakeup.

    #350465
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,14:58)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2013,14:18)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,14:12)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2013,13:05)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 10 2013,19:33)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2013,13:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 09 2013,14:52)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2013,12:56)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:59)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 08 2013,15:39)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2013,15:34)
    Boditharta.

    Can you answer this question?

    Which of the witnesses are more reliable.
    1.The 12 that lived with Jesus;and ate and drunk with him; and given the Holy spirit; or.

    2.The one witness that never saw Jesus, and lived
    630yrs after Jesus?

    wakeup.


    I thought I had answered this question before but most of what they have said would be reliable but regarding his last days

    Mark 14:50
    And they all forsook him, and fled.

    Do you believe this?


    Boditharta.

    Why do you hasitate to answer the question?
    which of the two are the more reliable witness?
                          ***
    Regarding the apostle running away for fear.
    This is to fulfil the prophecy.
    **SMITE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP ARE SCATTERED**.

    wakeup.


    The more reiable witness would be Gabriel who delivered the news to both mary about Jesusand delievered the Quran to Muhammad although the time difference was vast.

    Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97)

    If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.

    Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and gabriel and michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #98)


    Boditharta.

    Mary is appearing around the world with a message,
    do you believe she is truly mary?

    wakeup.


    I m not familiar with that information… can you provide more info?


    Boditharta.

    Have you not heard that Mary has been appearing in
    itally;mexico; france(lourdes); healing and with a message of peace?

    Dont you know that Joseph Smith was visited by an angel
    and inspired him to write the book of mormon?
    Dont you know that Ellen white has been inspired by an angel, and saw visions. And started the Sda chuch,and split up into the jw's?

    She was found to dwell into spiritism?
    Let that be an example for us, not to dwell into new books
    inspired by angels.

    Because Satan also is a fallen cherub;and he has his prince's under him, each doing their job,to deceive the nations in many ways.

    wakeup.


    I understand your point but the FRUIT of ISLAM is EVIDENT

    It is surpassng Christendom as the number 1 religion, THIS GOSPEL is BEING PREACHED to THE ENDS of THE EARTH.

    This is despite bad press, wars and rumors of wars.


    Boditharta.

    What good has islam done for the world?
    What contribution have they brought forth?
    **We dont see fruits as how many are converted**.
    The catholics are also all over the world,
    but their land(spiritually) is desolate.
    They dont produce any fruits,but spiritual desolation.

    Worshipping idols, and saint, and angels.

    Islam has taught the followers to go straight to God,
    and disregarding the Son of God, HE; that lay down his life for us.

    Therefore a stumbling block to God.
    Jesus is a stumbling block to the jews,and to the muslems.

    wakeup.


    When God said be fruitful and Multiply how is it you do not see that Multiplication is Fruitful.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki….hnology


    Boditharta.

    We must know how to devide the scriptures;
    Keep the spiritual to the spiritual;and the physical to the physical.

    God commanded Adam to be fruitful and multyply.
    This ofcourse is speaking about the physical,for adam have no followers; and God wanted the earth to be inhabited.

    A church with good fruits,is a church that is feeding the flock with knowledge. There are none;all have been feeding the flock with soothing words only.

    wakeup.


    Agreed!

    #350484
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Boditharta.

    I can teach you heaps and heaps,if you so desire.
    I will never force it in someones throat.

    The kingdom of God will be set up in israel,at the coming.
    Babylon the great must be destroyed first.All the cities of the nations will be no more.Technology;no more.
    And satan put away;not destroyed,because God is not finished with him.Only the beast(empire) and the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire. not satan.Rev.19:20.

    We need to *labour* to be part in that kingdom.
    The resurrected saints will rule with Christ over the jews.
    This kingdom is to the jews;as paradise; no tears;no pain;
    no sorrows;no wars.(isaiah,ch.11. ch.65.).Zech.14:11–21. The outsiders can come in, only for great celebrations,
    then go back home.

    They all will know God and have abundant knowledge,even the children. Because the teachers are the saints.
    The saints have inherited *all things*.

    Outside the kingdom are the remnants of the gentiles;
    there will be also christians that did not make it in the resurrection. And jews also that have survived armageddon.

    They are shut out; but they also will be preached to by the jews,and many will accept,and have knowledge.
    But also many will not accept.

    Take note;the fallen angels are still free to tempt the population on the outside only.
    For they can not enter inside the boundaries.
    The teachings will be for 10 generations,because all will live upto a 100years old.

    wakeup.

    #350577
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:12)
    Boditharta.

    I can teach you heaps and heaps,if you so desire.
    I will never force it in someones throat.

    The kingdom of God will be set up in israel,at the coming.
    Babylon the great must be destroyed first.All the cities of the nations will be no more.Technology;no more.
    And satan put away;not destroyed,because God is not finished with him.Only the beast(empire) and the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire. not satan.Rev.19:20.

    We need to *labour* to be part in that kingdom.
    The resurrected saints will rule with Christ over the jews.
    This kingdom is to the jews;as paradise; no tears;no pain;
    no sorrows;no wars.(isaiah,ch.11. ch.65.).Zech.14:11–21. The outsiders can come in, only for great celebrations,
    then go back home.

    They all will know God and have abundant knowledge,even the children. Because the teachers are the saints.
    The saints have inherited *all things*.

    Outside the kingdom are the remnants of the gentiles;
    there will be also christians that did not make it in the resurrection. And jews also that have survived armageddon.

    They are shut out; but they also will be preached to by the jews,and many will accept,and have knowledge.
    But also many will not accept.

    Take note;the fallen angels are still free to tempt the population on the outside only.
    For they can not enter inside the boundaries.
    The teachings will be for 10 generations,because all will live upto a 100years old.

    wakeup.


    This type of information is speculative but with that in mind I guess I don't have an issue with it

    #350583
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:12)
    Boditharta.

    I can teach you heaps and heaps,if you so desire.
    I will never force it in someones throat.

    The kingdom of God will be set up in israel,at the coming.
    Babylon the great must be destroyed first.All the cities of the nations will be no more.Technology;no more.
    And satan put away;not destroyed,because God is not finished with him.Only the beast(empire) and the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire. not satan.Rev.19:20.

    We need to *labour* to be part in that kingdom.
    The resurrected saints will rule with Christ over the jews.
    This kingdom is to the jews;as paradise; no tears;no pain;
    no sorrows;no wars.(isaiah,ch.11. ch.65.).Zech.14:11–21. The outsiders can come in, only for great celebrations,
    then go back home.

    They all will know God and have abundant knowledge,even the children. Because the teachers are the saints.
    The saints have inherited *all things*.

    Outside the kingdom are the remnants of the gentiles;
    there will be also christians that did not make it in the resurrection. And jews also that have survived armageddon.

    They are shut out; but they also will be preached to by the jews,and many will accept,and have knowledge.
    But also many will not accept.

    Take note;the fallen angels are still free to tempt the population on the outside only.
    For they can not enter inside the boundaries.
    The teachings will be for 10 generations,because all will live upto a 100years old.

    wakeup.


    This type of information is speculative but with that in mind I guess I don't have an issue with it


    Boditharta.

    Wich part is speculative
    I dont speculate; it would be a waste of time.
    All can be backed up with the prophesies.

    wakeup.

    #350618
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:29)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:12)
    Boditharta.

    I can teach you heaps and heaps,if you so desire.
    I will never force it in someones throat.

    The kingdom of God will be set up in israel,at the coming.
    Babylon the great must be destroyed first.All the cities of the nations will be no more.Technology;no more.
    And satan put away;not destroyed,because God is not finished with him.Only the beast(empire) and the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire. not satan.Rev.19:20.

    We need to *labour* to be part in that kingdom.
    The resurrected saints will rule with Christ over the jews.
    This kingdom is to the jews;as paradise; no tears;no pain;
    no sorrows;no wars.(isaiah,ch.11. ch.65.).Zech.14:11–21. The outsiders can come in, only for great celebrations,
    then go back home.

    They all will know God and have abundant knowledge,even the children. Because the teachers are the saints.
    The saints have inherited *all things*.

    Outside the kingdom are the remnants of the gentiles;
    there will be also christians that did not make it in the resurrection. And jews also that have survived armageddon.

    They are shut out; but they also will be preached to by the jews,and many will accept,and have knowledge.
    But also many will not accept.

    Take note;the fallen angels are still free to tempt the population on the outside only.
    For they can not enter inside the boundaries.
    The teachings will be for 10 generations,because all will live upto a 100years old.

    wakeup.


    This type of information is speculative but with that in mind I guess I don't have an issue with it


    Boditharta.

    Wich part is speculative
    I dont speculate; it would be a waste of time.
    All can be backed up with the prophesies.

    wakeup.


    It is all speculative. Tell me when is the hour to come? If you could know you would be greater than Jesus:

    Matthew 24:35-37

    King James Version (KJV)

    35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    Mark 13:32
    But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

    Jesus even thought it would be in his day.

    Luke 21:32
    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

    #350632
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:29)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:12)
    Boditharta.

    I can teach you heaps and heaps,if you so desire.
    I will never force it in someones throat.

    The kingdom of God will be set up in israel,at the coming.
    Babylon the great must be destroyed first.All the cities of the nations will be no more.Technology;no more.
    And satan put away;not destroyed,because God is not finished with him.Only the beast(empire) and the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire. not satan.Rev.19:20.

    We need to *labour* to be part in that kingdom.
    The resurrected saints will rule with Christ over the jews.
    This kingdom is to the jews;as paradise; no tears;no pain;
    no sorrows;no wars.(isaiah,ch.11. ch.65.).Zech.14:11–21. The outsiders can come in, only for great celebrations,
    then go back home.

    They all will know God and have abundant knowledge,even the children. Because the teachers are the saints.
    The saints have inherited *all things*.

    Outside the kingdom are the remnants of the gentiles;
    there will be also christians that did not make it in the resurrection. And jews also that have survived armageddon.

    They are shut out; but they also will be preached to by the jews,and many will accept,and have knowledge.
    But also many will not accept.

    Take note;the fallen angels are still free to tempt the population on the outside only.
    For they can not enter inside the boundaries.
    The teachings will be for 10 generations,because all will live upto a 100years old.

    wakeup.


    This type of information is speculative but with that in mind I guess I don't have an issue with it


    Boditharta.

    Wich part is speculative
    I dont speculate; it would be a waste of time.
    All can be backed up with the prophesies.

    wakeup.


    It is all speculative. Tell me when is the hour to come? If you could know you would be greater than Jesus:

    Matthew 24:35-37

    King James Version (KJV)

    35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    Mark 13:32
    But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

    Jesus even thought it would be in his day.

    Luke 21:32
    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.


    Boditharta

    You; like all the other preachers can read the scriptures;but can not perceive.

    Jesus said **THE DAY AND THE HOUR**

    Knowing the prophesies well; can tell you *the week*
    of his coming. For thats what the prophesies are for.
    To tell us things to come.

    Just by reading Rev.11,will give you an idea when he is coming.

    wakeup.

    #350660
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 13 2013,19:28)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 13 2013,11:20)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:29)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2013,16:47)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 11 2013,21:12)
    Boditharta.

    I can teach you heaps and heaps,if you so desire.
    I will never force it in someones throat.

    The kingdom of God will be set up in israel,at the coming.
    Babylon the great must be destroyed first.All the cities of the nations will be no more.Technology;no more.
    And satan put away;not destroyed,because God is not finished with him.Only the beast(empire) and the false prophet will be cast in the lake of fire. not satan.Rev.19:20.

    We need to *labour* to be part in that kingdom.
    The resurrected saints will rule with Christ over the jews.
    This kingdom is to the jews;as paradise; no tears;no pain;
    no sorrows;no wars.(isaiah,ch.11. ch.65.).Zech.14:11–21. The outsiders can come in, only for great celebrations,
    then go back home.

    They all will know God and have abundant knowledge,even the children. Because the teachers are the saints.
    The saints have inherited *all things*.

    Outside the kingdom are the remnants of the gentiles;
    there will be also christians that did not make it in the resurrection. And jews also that have survived armageddon.

    They are shut out; but they also will be preached to by the jews,and many will accept,and have knowledge.
    But also many will not accept.

    Take note;the fallen angels are still free to tempt the population on the outside only.
    For they can not enter inside the boundaries.
    The teachings will be for 10 generations,because all will live upto a 100years old.

    wakeup.


    This type of information is speculative but with that in mind I guess I don't have an issue with it


    Boditharta.

    Wich part is speculative
    I dont speculate; it would be a waste of time.
    All can be backed up with the prophesies.

    wakeup.


    It is all speculative. Tell me when is the hour to come? If you could know you would be greater than Jesus:

    Matthew 24:35-37

    King James Version (KJV)

    35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    Mark 13:32
    But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

    Jesus even thought it would be in his day.

    Luke 21:32
    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.


    Boditharta

    You; like all the other preachers can read the scriptures;but can not perceive.

    Jesus said **THE DAY AND THE HOUR**

    Knowing the prophesies well; can tell you *the week*
    of his coming. For thats what the prophesies are for.
    To tell us things to come.

    Just by reading Rev.11,will give you an idea when he is coming.

    wakeup.


    Luke 21:32
    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

    That generation did past, did it not?

    In regards to Revelation 11 even that is not clear,

    Also

    Revelation 1

    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

    What do you consider “shortly pass” to mean? 2000 years or more?

    You see this is a rule of prophecy:

    Deuteronomy 18:22
    when a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    In other words the great desire of someone may cause them to prophesy what they desire just as Jesus did himself:

    Luke 9:27
    But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

    Matthew 16:28
    Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

    Unless you believe like I do that Jesus never tasted death as of yet I would say that everyone else has tasted death that was standing there.

    #350666
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:29)
    Boditharta.

    Wich part is speculative
    I dont speculate;
    it would be a waste of time.
    All can be backed up with the prophesies.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    The part where you say the mark of the beast is a micro-chip implant.  :D

    Ed

    #350675
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2013,09:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 12 2013,18:29)
    Boditharta.

    Wich part is speculative
    I dont speculate;
    it would be a waste of time.
    All can be backed up with the prophesies.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    The part where you say the mark of the beast is a micro-chip implant.  :D

    Ed


    EDJ.

    I know; to you the mark of the beast is *islam*.
    We can not go buy or sell without the word *islam* on our heads or hand.

    **All** small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, is to have the word *islam* on their hand or head.
    This means the Pope and all his men also.

    All the products today have the word *islam* stamped on;
    called barcode.This is what you see with your eyes.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.

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