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God has a soul
Isaiah 1:13-15 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain13Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
14Your new moons and your appointed feasts my SOUL hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
Hi ST,
I agree
Lev 26
” 11'Moreover, I will make My dwelling among you, and My soul will not reject you.12'I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.”
1Sam 2.
” 35'But I will raise up for Myself a faithful priest who will do according to what is in My heart and in My soul; and I will build him an enduring house, and he will walk before My anointed always.”Jb.23
11″My foot has held fast to His path;
I have kept His way and not turned aside.
12″I have not departed from the command of His lips;
I have treasured the words of His mouth more than my necessary food.
13″But He is unique and who can turn Him?
And what His soul desires, that He does.”
Ps 11
” 4The LORD is in His holy temple; the LORD'S throne is in heaven;
His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men.
5The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked,
And the one who loves violence His soul hates.”Is 42
” 1″Behold, My Servant, whom I uphold;
My chosen one in whom My soul delights
I have put My Spirit upon Him;”We are made like unto God.
God has no body as spirit so it is as the inner man we are alike to Him.
Our inner man is soul and spirit.
Beings without bodies are called spirit.
God's vessel pours out His Spirit.Hi Malcolm,
You say
“The Spirit of God that came upon him was not the baptism of the Holy Ghost
It was the Holy Ghost Himself – indwelling His tabernacle”So in your opinion
Is the Holy Spirit a being?
Is it the Spirit of God?
If so is this being separate from God?
Does God not have a spirit of which the Spirit is a portion?
Is it the same Spirit of Christ that indwells us?Hi Malcolm,
You said
“Surely your memory is not so short that you cannot recall the discussions we have had in the past on that subject in other threads….”Surely what we say today should be measured for today's audience?
Quote Surely what we say today should be measured for today's audience? You know, I never really think of what we say as having an audience. I just think of it as a conversation among a few people. But every now and then, it occurs to me that there may be many many people who view this site, but don't say anything. Nick, do you know how many people check out this site?
david
Quote God has a soul –Seekingtruth
Quote We are made like unto God.
God has no body as spirit so it is as the inner man we are alike to Him.
Our inner man is soul and spirit.–Nick
If, as some suggest, the soul is something inside of people (and animals also, apparently) that exists separate from the body and doesn't die when the body dies, then what can we make from the fact that God has a soul?
Is not the soul the life of the person, or the person himself? Does not scripture bear this out countless times?
Hi david,
Divine and angelic beings are spirit beings.
They have no bodies derived from the dust of earth.
We and the other earthly beings are integrated beings including a body.
We are made in the image of God and the likeness is not in the flesh.
The mind of Christ enables us to see separation between body and soul as Paul showed in 2 Cor 5.
The destiny for souls those outside of Christ is Death and Hades till the second resurrection.
Paul showed us our being is soul and we live in a perishable tent and after our death will live with Christ.
Hades cannot hold the 'living' saints who go to mansions Christ has prepared.
The Living God cannot die.Hi David,
God is a being who lives in heaven in unapproachable light and He pours out that Spirit on men and works by the Spirit in all creation.“God is a spirit,” the Bible says.
God has soul, the Bible says.
(1 Sa 2:35; Ps 11:5; 24:4; Pr 6:16; Is 1:14; 42:1; Jer 5:9; 6:8; 12:7; 14:19; 15:1; 32:41; 51:14; La 3:20; Ez 23:18; Am 6:8; Mt 12:18; Heb 10:38)Nick, could you please, just one more time, give me a precise definition of your understanding of what “soul” is?
dave
Hi David,
This is how I see it.
Man is body, soul and spirit.Soul, the inner man made up of personality, heart and mind, is what is left of a person, after the body has become separated from the being that is man at death.
The soul is a vessel designed to hold the Spirit of God.
The body degenerates to dust, and the spirit returns to God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2006,07:57) Hi david,
Divine and angelic beings are spirit beings.
They have no bodies derived from the dust of earth.
We and the other earthly beings are integrated beings including a body.
We are made in the image of God and the likeness is not in the flesh.
The mind of Christ enables us to see separation between body and soul as Paul showed in 2 Cor 5.
The destiny for souls those outside of Christ is Death and Hades till the second resurrection.
Paul showed us our being is soul and we live in a perishable tent and after our death will live with Christ.
Hades cannot hold the 'living' saints who go to mansions Christ has prepared.
The Living God cannot die.Quote We are made in the image of God and the likeness is not in the flesh. This being the case Nick then when was this likeness created? In Genesis 1 or Genesis 2
Genesis 1 speaks of God creating man in His image and likeness
Genesis 2 speaks of God creating a man from the dust of the earth.
If the Genesis 2 account it just a re-iteration of Genesis 1 then the dust of the earth would be the image and likeness of God.
Which it is not is it?Personally I believe that the body and the spirit are vehicles which “house” a soul. The body is what ties us (spirit and soul) to this physical existence. While we live, we are limited in our ability to perceive the greater reality all around us which includes our own spirit.
This is as a result of Adams fall and our spiritual death. Not that our spirit ceased to exist, but our ability to perceive that part of our being was cut off. When Adam fell his body lost contact with his spirit and upon his physical death, he (spirit and soul) went to a place to await judgment.
Prior to Jesus, upon death the soul and spirit went to a place of holding to await judgment. But since Jesus set the captives free I believe that, if your born again, when you die, your spirit and soul go to heaven to be with the Lord to await His return, where we are re-united with our resurrected (glorified) body.
Somebody on a different thread asked what if Adam had eaten of the tree of life after the fall what would have happened. I believe that would have tied the soul to the corrupted body making redemption impossible.
I'm sure the above is way out there to some, and it may be, but I believe it is what God has revealed to me, though I may have mis-interpreted it (and it's still incomplete). I'm still seeking truth (no pun intended).
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 15 2006,05:07) Hi David,
This is how I see it.
Man is body, soul and spirit.Soul, the inner man made up of personality, heart and mind, is what is left of a person, after the body has become separated from the being that is man at death.
The soul is a vessel designed to hold the Spirit of God.
The body degenerates to dust, and the spirit returns to God.
That's pretty much how I see it too.Here is my 10 cents worth. (2 cents doesn't exist in NZ currency anymore).
The soul is clothed in a body whether it be physical or spiritual. The soul lives when God's spirit resides inside.
The soul is the identity of a man.
The body is the nature of a man.
The spirit is the life of a man.Here's my 10 cents worth
The Spirit is the Life – no problems there.
The body is the vessel – don't know about nature.
Did Adam and Eve's bodies change as a result of sin in the garden?
I suppose in one way you could say yes – because they began to die – and it is the body that dies.
I prefer vessel – even though the body did alter due to sinWhy I don't know about nature
I don't beleive we can conveniently split the body soul and spirit apart (dissect it and treat each part individually)
as we are a tripartite being that is not complete without any one part of the three.The nature of man did change drastically after sin entered in.
The body now died.
The soul as a resul now stood in question.
And the spirit of man became desperately wicked – a carnal spirit.As a result man lost fellowship with God.
Personally I beleive the soul is the nature of the spirit.
The body echoes that nature in the natural realm through a genetic pattern.That genetic pattern identifies in the pyhsical world that we are man
And each one unique
All sharing the genetic pattern common only to mankind
Yet each unique in their arrangement of that pattern.Flesh and nature are used for the same word (sarx).
Romans 1:3 (NIV)
regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,Romans 1:3 (KJV)
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;Romans 8:8 (NIV)
Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.Romans 8:8 (NIV)
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.sarx {sarx} definition:
1. flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts
2. the body
1. the body of a man
2. used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship
1. born of natural generation
3. the sensuous nature of man, “the animal nature”
1. without any suggestion of depravity
2. the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin
3. the physical nature of man as subject to suffering
3. a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast
4. the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God
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