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“GOD, the common Teutonic word for a personal object of religious worship. It is thus, like the Gr. Oe6s and Lat. dens, applied to all those superhuman beings of the heathen mythologies who exercise power over nature and man and are often identified with some particular sphere of activity; and also to the visible material objects, whether an image of the supernatural being or a tree, pillar, &c. used as a symbol, an idol. The word god, on the conversion of the Teutonic races to Christianity, was adopted as the name of the one Supreme Being, the Creator of the universe, and of the Persons of the Trinity. The New English Dictionary points cut that whereas the old Teutonic type of the word is neuter, corresponding to the Latin numen, in the Christian applications it becomes masculine, and that even where the earlier neuter form is still kept, as in Gothic and Old Norwegian, the construction is masculine. Popular etymology has connected the word with good ; this is exemplified by the corruption of God be with you into good-bye. God is a word common to all Teutonic languages. In Gothic it is Guth; Dutch has the same form as English; Danish and Swedish have Gud, German Gott. According to the New English Dictionary, the original may be found in two Aryan roots, both of the form gheu, one of which means to invoke, the other to pour (ci. Gr. x~av); the last is used of sacrificial offerings. The word would thus mean the object either of religious invocation or of religious worship by sacrifice. It has been also suggested that the word might mean a molten image from the sense of pour.”
IS THIS TRUE OR NOT? eliyah provided this from the 1911 britannica.
Hi,
The word “god” itself certainly has issues for me. because the same word is used for the Almighty creator as for a wooden idol perched on a shelf in a shack. The only difference is the capital being used or not. In what way does the word used show the respect and awe we should feel to Him?The word has also been used by some such as trinitarians to muddy the waters and try to show Yeshua is his own Father, or part of his Father.
I wonder how Jn 1.1 would read if the true terms were used?Nick, that word ' g-d ' absolutely originates in pagan idol worship, and whether that word has a “” CAPITOL 'G ' “” or not does not change its pronounciation nor its origination.
Nick, You also asked, “”
Quote I wonder how Jn 1.1 would read if the true terms were used? Well, here is correctly translated from Hebrew to English.
Quote ( John 1:1-3)1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with El , and the Word was El. 2 The same was in the beginning with El.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
All through the Book of ( Gen.) is the correct original pure Hebrew titles of “” El and Elohim “” that is applied to YHWH=Yahweh, but all the ” titles ” of OTHER NATIONS( god, gott, gud, guth, theos, dios, dieu-e.t.c) apply to those other pagan nation's own deities which they worshipped, and they still do worship them today.
It is absolute violation of ( Exod.20:2-7; Exod.23:13; Deut.5:7; Joshua 23:7) to even mention THEE ABOVE pagan title deities, and it is even WORSE to apply them to YHWH= Yahweh.
To YHWH= Yahweh there is no such thing as allowing a “” small amount of paganism “” in your worship of Him “” in spirit and in truth “”, but the throw out the “” major amounts of paganism “”.
To Him, we must reject and THROW ALL THE PAGANISM OUT, because Messiah will be coming back to RECEIVE A PURE BRIDE, which is a bride without spot, and their WHITE ROBES are symbolic of PURITY and SACRED.
Eliyah C.
Hi,
There is no use trying to purify the whore, or the world, as brandonike seems to want to do.“Let the dead bury the dead”.
Nick,
BrandonIke IS NOT TRYING TO PURIFY THE WHORE of ( Rev.18).
Neither am i trying to either, but to cry out to those honest people that are associated with the whore to “” COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE( Rev.18:4)
That is what i'm telling YOU TOO Nick!
Stop trying to put words in our mouths that we don't mean.
Eliyah C.
Ok Nick, then let's stop calling the Creator and Messiah by pagan origin idol titles, and use their real true Names?
Thanks,
Eliyah C.
Ps. I will defend you, and all those who use the Father and Son's correct true names, as that is what BOTH of them and the Desciples asked of us His true Children.
Quote (Eliyah @ Sep. 14 2005,04:45) Ok Nick, then let's stop calling the Creator and Messiah by pagan origin idol titles, and use their real true Names? Thanks,
Eliyah C.
Ps. I will defend you, and all those who use the Father and Son's correct true names, as that is what BOTH of them and the Desciples asked of us His true Children.
Hi e,
Surely it is not you we serve on this or any other matter. Such attitudes give the impression you are more than just wanting to inform but rather to control others. Not wise.Nick, I did not say OR MEAN that I wanted to control anyone, that is YOU saying that.
Why don't you stop TWISTING MY WORDS like your father the devil did when he tempted the Messiah??
I did not judge you, you have already judged yourself.
You keep on TWISTING MY WORDS like satan the devil did.
Yea, your gonna be judged by your false ” father ” very soon now.
Hi e,
You mission is clearly not one of edification but much more of condemnation of all others, and is pathetic, and not effective on the sons of God. Who sent you as judge? Is that not the role assigned to King Yeshua?Rom 8.1
” Therefore there is now no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus”I'm not ” judging” anyone Nick, you LOVE to practice Baalism, and you teach others to do the same.
First you use “” Yeshua “”, then you use “” Je'SUS “=”” HE'SUS””= IHS= TAMMUZ= NIMROD( == sun of ZEUS).
Oh, you love your paganism all right, you can't seem to choose from “” THE SON OF YAH “”, or the “” SUN OF ZEUS””.
You merely condemn me because i point out false teachings of modern Baalism, and then you say that i'm judging.
We are to “”judge “” between false teachings and doctrines.
You seem to be confused concerning what we are to ” judge “.
That pagan “” IHS “” symbol of NIMROD of Babylon is right on the “” Pope's ” very hat, and your following right along with that “” whore “” in ( Rev.18).
Am I judging anyone because I point these things out to people?
Well, if I'm judging, then so did all the Prophets of Old and even Messiah too, because they all pointed out error.
Quote (Eliyah @ Sep. 14 2005,21:53) …… All through the Book of ( Gen.) is the correct original pure Hebrew titles of “” El and Elohim “” that is applied to YHWH=Yahweh, but all the ” titles ” of OTHER NATIONS( god, gott, gud, guth, theos, dios, dieu-e.t.c) apply to those other pagan nation's own deities which they worshipped, and they still do worship them today.
It is absolute violation of ( Exod.20:2-7; Exod.23:13; Deut.5:7; Joshua 23:7) to even mention THEE ABOVE pagan title deities, and it is even WORSE to apply them to YHWH= Yahweh.
……
Eliyah C.
To Eliyah,'Elohim' and 'Theos' are used to refer to God and others.
The important thing is to read the description or adjective. Even the article (the) makes a big difference.There is a big difference between the 'Most High God' and the 'god of this age' for example, yet both use the word 'theos' do they not?
THEOS
Used in reference to the Father:
Ephesians 1:3
Praise be to the God (Theos) and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.Used in reference to Jesus:
John 20:28
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God! (theos)”Used in reference to Satan:
2 Corinthians 4:4
The god (theos) of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God (theos).Used in reference to man:
John 10:34
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, `I have said you are gods (theos)'ELOHIM
The word “Elohim” is a word that is translated as God/god in the Old Testament:
Used in reference to the Creator.
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth.Used in reference to man:
Psalms 82:6
“I said, `You are “gods” (elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.'Used to refer to angels. This verse is actually quoted in the Hebrews 1:6 and it is referring to the Angels there.
Psalm 97:7
All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols; worship him, all you gods (elohim)!Hi t8,
I guess when you go through two translations then the original meanings may not be transmitted exactly so a search for what was originally written is valid. Even language itself can change. Is greek or hebrew now exactly the same in form and meaning as when the Word was written?
Still I am sure YHWH looks after His Word throughout the generations and He does not want perfectionism to distract or make anxious His sheep. Education is always valuable but still the kingdom is for the 'little ones' too. That is also why He gives us the Spirit to help us.Ah, another Administrator comes out of the wood work on Eliyah C., A ?
T8,
Both the Greek word “” theos “” and the English word ” god “” originates in paganism, which are idol image titles of other nation's pagan deities, and are not the original in Hebrew.
The Epistles of the Desciple were not originally written in greek, and all we have today, are copies of copies of copies of copies, and of copies.
The original language of the Desciples were Hebrew-Arahmaic.
I'm NOT going through explaining all this paganism that has been added by the copiests of the scriptures in the Greek and English translations again, so please go read all my previous posts.
It was said by YHWH through Yeremyah( Jer.) the Prophet in ( Yer.8:8) that the scriptures would be altered by the copiests and translators, and it is exactly so.
Eliyah C.
Quote (Eliyah @ Sep. 14 2005,22:56) Ah, another Administrator comes out of the wood work on Eliyah C., A ? T8,
Both the Greek word “” theos “” and the English word ” god “” originates in paganism, which are idol image titles of other nation's pagan deities, and are not the original in Hebrew.
The Epistles of the Desciple were not originally written in greek, and all we have today, are copies of copies of copies of copies, and of copies.
The original language of the Desciples were Hebrew-Arahmaic.
I'm NOT going through explaining all this paganism that has been added by the copiests of the scriptures in the Greek and English translations again, so please go read all my previous posts.
It was said by YHWH through Yeremyah( Jer.) the Prophet in ( Yer.8:8) that the scriptures would be altered by the copiests and translators, and it is exactly so.
Eliyah C.
Hi eliyah,
I see from your site that the original target of your angry assault was the church. It it possible that you still are against all leaders and administrators as you have no trust left in the Body of Christ? Have you walled yourself in and now randomly snipe at all in the belief that all others are evil minded?I think you should be aware that Yahweh still has a remnant people who honestly seek His ways and His truth.
Nick, You said, “”
Quote Hi eliyah,
I see from your site that the original target of your angry assault was the church. It it possible that you still are against all leaders and administrators as you have no trust left in the Body of Christ? Have you walled yourself in and now randomly snipe at all in the belief that all others are evil minded?I think you should be aware that Yahweh still has a remnant people who honestly seek His ways and His truth.
Nick, I'm not “” against ” anyone, and I certainly did NOT say that I was against “” T8 “”, and I certainly DID NOT say that “” T8 “” was evil minded either.
But, are you implying that he is?
Nick, You seem to want to TWIST and pervert what I write or say to mean something other than what I meant, inorder to dis-credit me with others on this forum.
Do you have a warped twisted mind too??
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