I Invite you all to Ramadan

[bodhitharta]

Yes, Ramadan is upon us next month

Ramadan 2015 begins in the evening of
Wednesday, June 17
and ends in the evening of
Friday, July 17

This is the most inspiring time to get closer to God and let go of any addictions or bad habits, Fasting and Prayer and abstaining from all bad things or things less than desirable for you.

I most likely will not post in the forum at this time as most do not want to edify and this month is a month of purity where we also look to being most charitable as well. This is so momentous I invite you all who seek God and truth to fast, pray and commune….perhaps I will post here if some would agree that we only speak the best things during this time…anyway I am very excited

[bodhitharta]

Fasting begins at sunrise and ends at sunset during that time no food or water is taken in, it is a great time of purity, if someone is ill and cannot participate in the fast then feeding people and other charitable acts are totally acceptable for Allah is most wise

[NickHassan]

hi BD,

Is it not true that folks love ritual and regular religious activities?

It makes them feel God must appreciate their efforts.

 

Such is deception

[bodhitharta]

Ezra 8:21
[ Fasting and Prayer for Protection ] Then I proclaimed a fast there, at the river Ahava, that we might humble ourselves before our God, to seek from him a safe journey for ourselves, our children, and all our goods.

Daniel 9:3
Then I turned my face to the Lord God, seeking him by prayer and pleas for mercy with fasting and sackcloth and ashes.

Joel 2:12
[ Return to the Lord ] “Yet even now,” declares the Lord, “return to me with all your heart, with fasting, with weeping, and with mourning;

Jonah 3:5
And the people of Nineveh believed God. They called for a fast and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them to the least of them.

Zechariah 8:19
“Thus says the Lord of hosts: The fast of the fourth month and the fast of the fifth and the fast of the seventh and the fast of the tenth shall be to the house of Judah seasons of joy and gladness and cheerful feasts. Therefore love truth and peace.

Matthew 4:2
And after fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.

Matthew 6:16
[ Fasting ] “And when you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.

Matthew 6:17
But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face,

Acts 13:2
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

So it compares in some ways to the Jewish Law?

Does that give it some sort of validity?

We are not under the law but grace.

 

[bodhitharta]

So Jesus fasts and then you are better than Jesus?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

Jesus was a jew who fully obeyed the Jewish Law.

Now there is no longer jew and Gentile for those in him.

 

You could become a Jew and attempt to do better than our master.

[bodhitharta]

So you don’t believe fasting and prayer have value?

I have experienced it’s blessings but I won’t judge you if you feel there is nothing in it, It seems to be a key thing to do in the life of those who are really serious about spiritual development

[NickHassan]

hi BD,

No value outside of Christ Jesus.

You cannot save yourself

[bodhitharta]

@Nick

hi BD,

No value outside of Christ Jesus.

You cannot save yourself

So Moses fasting and praying was of no benefit and Jesus himself fasting had no benefit and Jesus teaching his disciples to fast and pray is of no value and all the people who fasted and prayed received no benefit before Jesus?

Satan lies to you my friend or do you not recall how FASTING and PRAYER saved Nineveh?

[NickHassan]

hi BD,

Moses is one in the eternal  Spirit with Christ as are all the prophets.

Islam is not.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

I know you would love all to go back under the law as you think there are some similarities with islam you could manipulate.

Your fight is with the Spirit of God.

[Ed J]

acceptable?

No thanks, I try to stay away from useless false religion’s religious rituals.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

fasting and praying to false gods is not helpful to anyone.

 

[Ed J]

“Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dis-
mayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
For the customs of the people are vain” (Jer 10:1-3)

[bodhitharta]

O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint,-

( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #183)

Christ taught his disciples to fast and you guys call yourselves his followers, That’s what falling away from all truth must mean Jesus not only told his disciples to fast for some things he said IT IS NEEDED:

Matthew 17 21.Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Just in case somehow you think after Jesus they stopped Fasting

Acts 14 23. Paul and Barnabas also appointed elders in every church. With prayer and fasting, they turned the elders over to the care of the Lord, in whom they had put their trust.

Acts 13:3
So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off.

King James Bible
Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

So you guys don’t believe in Fasting, Prayer, good deeds…what exactly do you do sit around and say with your lips “we believe”

[Ed J]

So you guys don’t believe in Fasting, Prayer, good deeds

Hi BD,

Why always with a diversion? Your religion is false!

3,000 boy slaves and 72 black-eyed virgins – Futurist promises mean NOTHING
And a big pot of boiling oil waiting
to deep-fry your skin off perpetually if you resist – Futuristic threats mean EVEN LESS!

No-one is against good deeds, prayer, or fasting; it is your false religion that we don’t believe in.

_______________
God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

You could crawl around the earth on your knees.

But in service of another god it could not save you from the wrath of our God.

[bodhitharta]

@EDJ

3,000 boy slaves and 72 black-eyed virgins – Futurist promises mean NOTHING
And a big pot of boiling oil waiting
to deep-fry your skin off perpetually if you resist – Futuristic threats mean EVEN LESS!

No-one is against good deeds, prayer, or fasting; it is your false religion that we don’t believe in.

I asked did you fast or pray and you said nothing about it being of any use, it doesn’t matter how you think of others when someone is asking you about yourself you have to speak for yourself for what good would it do you when you go before God to speak against others? If you get caught doing a crime what good would it do to go to court and tell the judge of other criminals….Fasting and Prayer are very good things and you criticize even that?

Oh by the way can you tell me where the verses about 3000 boy slaves and 72 black eyed virgins are at in the Quran, I thought I had read every single page must have missed that please show me in the Quran

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

It must make you feel great that you are obeying the laws of man and disciplining yourself as well.

A fat lot of use longterm though.

 

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