How can one test the strength of our love.

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  • #786346
    Wakeup
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    How can one put the strength of our love for God to the test?
    We know that all celebrations suppose to represent God’s celebrations.
    However, we know also that the enemy has corrupted them, and has gone in, and change it to the worlds
    way of celebrating. He(the dragon) has turned it into a money making celebration, good for the money lenders.
    To put people under great pressure physically, mentally, and financially.

    The pressure is so great to spend hard earned money to buy goods for presents. And get him into great debt.
    Turning himself more into a slave, to work harder, and more hours for the master. More unhappiness.
    If one can break away from that tradition, which Jesus also hate; our love for God is greater than the love
    for the world. Because friends and families will look down on him, and will call him names, and cast him aside.
    Don’t Preach Christ At Christmas parties; don’t preach Christ at easter parties.
    That is a no no, tabu; because they are there to have a great time eating and drinking and having a good time.
    Do not spoil the spirit of the party by mentioning Jesus; turn up the music and lets party. Only once a year; life is short.
    No, don’t ever mention the name of the birthday boy, that is out of place?
    Don’t even mention the name of the one that died for the world, and crucified and resurrected, that also is out of place.

    What Christ hates we should also hate.

    If one can not, or will not put away what the world loves most, and be separate;
    How can one ever refuse the mark of the beast for the love of God?
    The mark of the beast is a greater temptation than any of the above, because own life is at stake.
    Pressures from friends and families, hungry children, wives, husbands, brothers and sisters, and parents,
    will be too great to handle.
    This is the reason we need to have a strong foundation to keep the house build on a rock; strong;
    and not fall during the great storm.
    For knowledge shall be stability of thy times.

    Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure.

    Knowledge makes our bond with God strong. No knowledge don’t have that strong bond; just a loose bond, easy to be undone.
    Easy to walk away from God, and go the easy way; the broad way.
    just by raising hands in the air does not give any knowledge, but just a good feeling.
    The medicine to take is bitter indeed; but everlasting life is at stake.

    wakeup.

    #786380
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,

    Whosoever wishes to save his own life will lose it.

    Unless the Lord builds the house the builders work in vain.

     

    #786383
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

     Loving God has never been taught as a means of salvation.

    He owes us nothing and we owe Him everything.

     

     Obedience is His requirement

    #786439
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Therefore; knowledge is the bond With God.
    The more knowledge, the stronger the bond; the stronger the foundation.
    wakeup.

    #786462
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    KNOWLEDGE is the bond with God?

    Get the mind of Christ and you will not imagine you know anything.

    #786493
    seekingtruth
    Participant

    I believe LOVE is the bond with God

    2 Peter 1:3 Jesus has the power of God. And his power has given us everything we need to live a life devoted to God. We have these things because we know him. Jesus chose us by his glory and goodness, through which he also gave us the very great and rich gifts that he promised us. With these gifts you can share in being like God. And so you will escape the ruin that comes to people in the world because of the evil things they want.

    Because you have these blessings, do all you can to add to your life these things: to your faith add goodness; to your goodness add knowledge; to your knowledge add self-control; to your self-control add patience; to your patience add devotion to God; to your devotion add kindness toward your brothers and sisters in Christ, and to this kindness add love. If all these things are in you and growing, you will never fail to be useful to God. You will produce the kind of fruit that should come from your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But those who don’t grow in these blessings are blind. They cannot see clearly what they have. They have forgotten that they were cleansed from their past sins.

    Knowledge is early is the the process, LOVE is the goal

    My opinion, Wm

    #786495
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Seekingtruth.

    Are you saying that you have become a Christian without knowing the scriptures if it is true?
    Did you just believed without seeking and any understanding?
    If one just believe without any knowledge; then I call that blind faith.
    Love comes from knowing God and His Son’s teachings ; one can not receive love by just believing in blind faith.
    Love is a gift from God; to them that seek Him. It is not given to everyone.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    wakeup.

    #786496
    seekingtruth
    Participant

    Knowledge is early is the the process, LOVE is the goal

    My opinion, Wm

    #786500
    seekingtruth
    Participant

    The process starts with faith, knowledge is early is the the process, LOVE is the goal

    My opinion, Wm

    #786501
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Scribes knew the scriptures.

    It did not save them.

    #786502
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Knowledge is just head stuff and can be a vanity.

    Seek the kingdom

    #786507
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Faith in what; or whom?
    Is it not on Jesus?
    How did we come to know Jesus? Is it not by seeking the scriptures?

    Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by HEARING, and HEARING by the word of God.

    wakeup.

    #786523
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    ROMANS was written to the saved, not the unsaved

    Check chapter 1

     

     

    Knowing about God and His Son saves nobody

    #786526
    seekingtruth
    Participant

    Knowledge alone does little but puff us up, but love edifies

    John 5:38 The Father’s teaching does not live in you, because you don’t believe in the one the Father sent. 39 You carefully study the Scriptures. You think that they give you eternal life. These same Scriptures tell about me! 40 But you refuse to come to me to have that life.

    1 Corinthians 8:1 We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies.
    My opinion, Wm
    #786529
    Wakeup
    Participant

    That scriptures says to carefully study the scriptures.
    You said no need to; just have faith.
    Does knowledge not come by studying the scriptures?
    Is blind faith enough to truly know your God?
    Is knowing Christ not by studying the scriptures?
    Is the bible just there for display purpose?
    Are the apostles all puffed up men, because they have knowledge?
    Is anyone with knowledge puffed up in your opinion?
    Are all your teachers puffed up men, because they teach?
    Should no one have knowledge to be seen as humble, in your opinion?

    wakeup.

    #786548
    journey42
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup

    I don’t think that Seeking Truth was having a go at you.

    Nick said;

    Hi WU,

    Loving God has never been taught as a means of salvation.

    Seeking truth replied;

    I believe LOVE is the bond with God

    and he gave some scriptures which showed in my eyes, that Nick stated something that wasn’t true, for loving God IS THE MEANS FOR SALVATION, and from there this love grows the more we know him through his Word.

    Seeking truth
    I agree.
    Nice to see you back on here.

    Without this love for God, we would not care for seeking God even deeper. Through this love, we search deeper, soaking in God’s word, all of it, to know him and receiving all the wisdom God wishes to impart on to us who are hungry for his truth.

    We testify that his Word is true, and his word gives wisdom….wisdom to know what he likes and dislikes, wisdom to know the difference between true and false, wisdom in understanding how he started the world and his plan to bring forth spiritual children for himself at the end of it all. Children who care to know his laws which is his righteousness, his true doctrine, his prophecies,.. and to know everything he has planned, all of it, sweet and bitter, which we can only receive if we come through his Son, the Word of God. Wisdom is not only reading Gods words, but understanding them.

    All this is knowledge, spiritual things that matter, the recipe for bringing our once naked souls into the bond of perfection through correction, strengthening and mercy. Showing that same mercy to others also, knowing the right way starting with the milk (righteousness) then maturing to solids (deep knowledge) so that we lack nothing.

    Everything we have learned of God is classed as knowledge. This is the knowledge wakeup is referring to, not worldy knowledge where we receive degrees, or honour from men as the scribes did, but knowledge that contributes to salvation and knowing how to achieve it through the Word, and not parts of it, but the whole lot right up to the end of our lives where we can face the hard tests and trials that are coming upon us ….with all confidence, knowing that our walk requires many sacrifices, even our lives which means to be put to death as our Lord was, and his apostles, and the prophets before them. To follow in their footsteps.

    All this knowledge prepares us for the ultimate test which is coming soom, and without knowledge, we will do the wrong thing and be left naked and destitute without salvation…which would of made our walk nothing but a waste of time showing that we did not love God enough to find out his plans and how he plans to perfect us.

    This is our treasure, knowledge,….knowledge from God….Inside information kept hidden from the enemy… and I know you probably already know this.
    God bless.

    #786549
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Journey 42.

    Seeking truth reckons that knowledge only puffup a person; which is the total opposite.
    The more knowledge; the more fear of God, the more humble one becomes.
    And faith only comes by hearing the Word of God.
    Faith by just following the crowd is blind faith.
    Faith without knowledge is faith in the teacher, not in the Word.
    Many had faith in their teacher, and was led into death; or to great disappointment.

    wakeup.

    #786550
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    No it tells you ABOUT Christ Jesus.

    The knowledge given to the apostles was of grace rather than just human effort.1peter 1

     

    Whosoever wishes to save his own life will lose it

     

    #786551
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,

    Why do you call me LORD LORD and not DO as I say?

    Obey the commands of Jesus Christ.

    You must be born again.

     

     

     

    #786553
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    You need not worry.

    You are not an appointed teacher.

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