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Stu! You do not understand that God by destroying them will save their minds, not to completely be distorted. That is why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. And at the end times( and I believe we are in it) it will be just like it was in the time of Sodom and Gomorrah. God will punish all for their Sins. You know, that a child how does it best obey? If I spank my child once or twice, it will do what I want it to do. Also God has given mankind 7000 years to rule themselves and only interfered once in awhile. Mankind then sees that He needs God and will be glad to obey.
As far as myself getting up and writing what I just did, I am writing what the Bible says.
Stu you can't look at the bigger picture of God's Plan, and that is to bad. Why do judge me, have I done that to you. You asked me about Homosexuality and I told you and then ask me all kinds of question. If you think that I will ever deny God or Jesus like Kejonn did, you have another thing coming. You come on a Christian Website and try to make us feel bad, because we believe in the God of the Bible. I think I had this conversation with you once before and I had to say Goodbye, because you can make me to angry, and so Stu don't even have to answer this post. Goodbye. Good Luck and may God have mercy on your Soul.
Peace and Love Mrs,Quote (seek and you will find @ April 13 2008,09:00) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,08:45) Quote (Stu @ April 12 2008,22:06) Quote (seek and you will find @ April 12 2008,18:44) Charity Good to see you, but you think it is O.K. what you seen in New Orleans? I find that City to be Sodom and Gomorrah. I am not to judge anybody, but we also have to see tho what is wrong or right, don't you think so. And make others aware of it, so they do not fall into the trap of Oh, everybody is doing it, and so it is alright to do. Love Mrs.
What is wrong with homosexuality?Stuart
You ask certain folks what is wrong with homosexuality and they will give you the answer the bible supposedly gives – it is wicked. They can give you no other answer, you know this.
Mandy! So what do you think of Homosexuality? Is it wrong? To make fun of it, is not the right way to respond, I do not want to upset you in anyway, but loving somebody, should be to tell them that they are wrong. That would be a loving thing to do. I know that it would create a conflixt, but just to ignore it, do you find that right? In God's eyes it is Sin, you do agree with that or not?
Christ has also taught us not to run towards sin, but to run from it. What is happening at the end times is that Satan will have people so wrapped up that they think that there is no sin. When we read the Sermon on the Mount it makes it crystal clear what is happening. Many are called, but few are chosen. The road is steep and few will find it. What road is He talking about? If a sexual sin is even when we look at a woman in lust that we have already commited adultery in our Hearts, I wonder what He would have to say about two woman or two men being involved in a sexual act. I do not believe that it is right. So we must all prove it. I have.
Peace and Love Irene
My honest answer is that I'm not sure. I know what the bible says, but so much of that is in question for me right now. When you look to nature, what was created, it sure seems to me that there is allowances for what we would refer to as 'alternative' sexual relationships. I'm wondering why this is?Quote No. But the only case of it not harming someone else I can think of is that of planned euthanasia as a result of permanent misery from terminal illness. It disgusts me that so many christians have so little compassion for this situation. –stu
Quote It is not a black-and-white world, but suicide is always a poor option.
Quote–stu
Yes, but if they want to do it and they're not harming anyone else, would you want to step in? And give them help?
To them, they'll say they're fine and they don't need help. They don't see a problem with it. But, maybe they're just wrong. Maybe they do need help. Maybe they've been exposed to the wrong things and this has resulted in them making horrendously poor decisions.Is your opinion that these ones commiting suicide: “They're free to do as they wish. To each his own if it's not hurting anyone else”?
Quote Yes. Homosexuality is the expression of love between two humans capable, and of age, to give consent. Bestiality involves a party that cannot give consent.
So when this becomes the norm, and politically correct, you'll then say that this is morally wrong? (I'm just trying to see if there is anything you consider morally wrong? Yes, this is extreme, now.)Hi seek and you will find
Quote You do not understand that God by destroying them will save their minds, not to completely be distorted. That is why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. And at the end times( and I believe we are in it) it will be just like it was in the time of Sodom and Gomorrah. God will punish all for their Sins.
Are you holding out for your god to punish all those who do not see the world your way? Will that delight you? A divine bloodbath as written in revelation? We have been waiting a very long time for someone who promised he would ‘come quickly’. Well your cavalry is late, and its fight is immoral anyway.Quote You know, that a child how does it best obey? If I spank my child once or twice, it will do what I want it to do.
Well I would report you for child abuse and hope to see you prosecuted. You are not allowed to do that to your dog. Why should you be allowed to do it to a human child?Quote Also God has given mankind 7000 years to rule themselves and only interfered once in awhile. Mankind then sees that He needs God and will be glad to obey.
We have actually been ‘ruling ourselves’ as homo sapiens sapiens for 185,000 years. Christians have jumped in and made a mess of things in only the last 2000 years or so.Quote As far as myself getting up and writing what I just did, I am writing what the Bible says.
OK. You deserve forgiveness and compassion for not knowing what you do.Quote Stu you can't look at the bigger picture of God's Plan, and that is to bad. Why do judge me, have I done that to you. You asked me about Homosexuality and I told you and then ask me all kinds of question.
I understand god’s plan perfectly. He plans to punish everyone except the Amish. Everyone else has it all wrong.You have not given me a reason why homosexuality is destructive. It is not. Think about it!
Quote You come on a Christian Website and try to make us feel bad, because we believe in the God of the Bible.
I am not responsible for the way you feel about what I post.Stuart
Hi David
Quote Yes, but if they want to do it and they're not harming anyone else, would you want to step in? And give them help?
To them, they'll say they're fine and they don't need help. They don't see a problem with it. But, maybe they're just wrong. Maybe they do need help. Maybe they've been exposed to the wrong things and this has resulted in them making horrendously poor decisions. Is your opinion that these ones commiting suicide: “They're free to do as they wish. To each his own if it's not hurting anyone else”?
If the only situation I can imagine that does not harm someone else is euthanasia in the face of misery from terminal illness, how do you expect an answer? Suicide is a poor option. Would I remove a person's right to decide what happens to that person's own body? No. Would I counsel against suicide? Yes. Would I stop a person from taking his own life if it was me at the scene? Yes. If I know about a person's suicide then I am harmed. If I don't then the situation is irrelevant. Would I campagne for the rights of terminally ill people in pain to be allowed legal euthanasia? Yes. Would you?
Stu: Yes. Homosexuality is the expression of love between two humans capable, and of age, to give consent. Bestiality involves a party that cannot give consent.Quote So when this becomes the norm, and politically correct, you'll then say that this is morally wrong? (I'm just trying to see if there is anything you consider morally wrong? Yes, this is extreme, now.)
So when what becomes the norm?Stuart
Quote (seek and you will find @ April 12 2008,17:49) Quote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,10:22) In other words, tough cookies Mandy. If Yahweh wants to act like a big pouty child, I guess its his perogative.
kejonn! It has always upset me when Stu comes on here and makes fun of our fairy in the sky, you are becoming just like him, and you know what, I do not like that. You used to be so nice. Even if you don't believe like we do, gives you no reason to make fun of things. You also sound angry. What are you angry at? On us for believing in the Bible, or what?
Peace and Love Mrs.
I am not angry Mrs. I am certainly not angry at you or any other on here. I will admit that I feel a little sorry for fundamentalist Christians because they do miss much in this life because of their beliefs. As any other fundamentalist believer, whether it be in Islam or Judaism. All three of these religions would have you seclude yourself and live a rigid lifestyle. Certainly not a joyful one (I've yet to meet a happy fundamentalist, just judgmental ones).Whatever the case, as you may notice, I use the name Yahweh as much as possible. I do this to represent the view of God given by the bible. If anything really bothers me, it is the insulting manner in which God is viewed in the bible. That is why I say Yahweh is a pouty child. He is like a child who easily angers when he doesn't get his way, and then lashes out. Yahweh's morals are appalling.
Judging in what way? I just say it is sad that some people are missing the joys of life by encasing themselves in a blind faith that denies the reality around them.
Hi KJ,
So we are blind but you can see?
John 9:41
Jesus said to them, ” If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ' We see,' your sin remains.No, “blind faith”. That is a faith that looks past the obvious bad parts of the bible to pretend they don't exist. It is a faith that never asks questions.
Yeah, the ones where over 2 million people are slaughtered by Yahweh, where he sanctions laws where rape is OK in some instances, not pooping in the camp so Yahweh won't step in it, etc.
According to the bible, God had to kill all of those people to prove that He was God.
He couldn't think of any better way.Tim
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2008,09:44) Hi Guys,
Bunch up because you are making yourselves a powerful Enemy.
I guess the worst he could do is lop my head off while I'm holding my precious daughter's hand, and then cut her head off too!Then at least we would both be out of our misery.
Hi not3,
Better to remember the voice of the shepherd and entrust yourself yourself to his loving Father.
The merchants of doubt and misery do not own you.When you compare the evidence it does not seem like the Father is loving at all. Or are you choosing to ignore what Tim and Kevin are saying? Ignoring it all so that you won't have to change your belief system? I can't do that anymore! Why would it be OK for God to harden hearts and then kill them all – it's not OK.
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