Homosexuality

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:43)

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:43) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 06 2009,14:10) Are Christians feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex? The reason for so many homosexuals threads is to emphasize to you seculars your denial that they are predators. Stu started it by saying that homosexuality has no vitims. When challenged he did not retract it. Had he retracted it we wouldn't have so many threads. thinker HOMSEXUALITY has no victims. Predators have victims. Not all predators are homosexual. They are not the same thing. Learn some logic. Stuart

Then heterosexuality and beastility has no victims. Only predators have victims.

Btw, I took courses in logic.

thinker

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:44)

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:50) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 07 2009,17:48) So homosexuality is destroying the nation now.  I suppose it will be responsible for global warming next. And after that sunspots and the next supernova. Stuart All you need to do is read the book How Christianity Changed the World and you will learn what homosexuals have been responsible for in history. Their history indicates the potential threat they are now. I posted the link to the book so you could not divert from the issues with such questions. Here is the link again: Stop asking such questions when you have your answers at the click of your mouse! thinker Why did you not say you were a publisher specialising in christian homophobic literature from the beginning. We could have had your spurious posts removed by t8 as advertising. Stuart

What! I am not a publisher. What are you smokin? I just read the book.

thinker

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:44)

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:50) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 07 2009,17:48) So homosexuality is destroying the nation now.  I suppose it will be responsible for global warming next. And after that sunspots and the next supernova. Stuart All you need to do is read the book How Christianity Changed the World and you will learn what homosexuals have been responsible for in history. Their history indicates the potential threat they are now. I posted the link to the book so you could not divert from the issues with such questions. Here is the link again: Stop asking such questions when you have your answers at the click of your mouse! thinker Why did you not say you were a publisher specialising in christian homophobic literature from the beginning. We could have had your spurious posts removed by t8 as advertising. Stuart

Just as I thought. You're not interested in the facts.

thinker

[Proclaimer]

I kind of agree Stu.

I think the Church shouldn't be involved in government and government shouldn't be involved in the Church.

They have 2 different roles and when the Church tries to rule politically, the end result is usually disaster.
Likewise when the World/Government tries to be involved or use the Church, that too is usually a disaster.
This is also why I think that governments and church have a bad rep in many people's minds.

The Church has a more important role than governments. Governments rule to keep law and order usually. They try to keep society working. (At least that what they should do.) This is a noble task, but is not an eternal one. The Church is not about ruling society, but is God's representitive of his Kingdom which is not of this world. This Kingdom is greater than all the kingdoms of the world and it will eventually supersede all kingdoms.

I think when the Church or believers try to get involved in worldly politics, they are selling out their greater purpose.

[Proclaimer]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 06 2009,14:10)

Are Christians feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex?

I count 7 threads.
So KJ, you are one-seventh of the reason for these threads.

Also, like most active bbs's, subjects become hot topics and then fall away.
We have seen this here with the Trinity, Pre-existence, Evolution, and other topics.

I think homosexuality shouldn't be any different if it is to get fair treatment that is.

Are you suggesting that we shouldn't talk about it? That it cannot have the limelight even for a while?
If so, are you feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex?

[Proclaimer]

There are people that PERSECUTE homosexuals and there are also people that PERSECUTE Christians.
You know who you are.

Both groups have the same thing in common. They both hate, (lack love).

Those who attack Believers are the same as those who attack Homosexuals.

Even more ironic are those who attack one group because some in that group attack the other group that they are defending.

Can you not see that you are both doing the same thing?
It's like saying “we will do anything for peace, even go to war”.

There is a word for such an action.

It begins with “H”.

[Stu]

Well I agree there are those who persecute christians for political reasons and for religious reasons. Communist (and other) dictatorships threatened by alternatives to their own political religions, and muslim extremists would probably be the top two in the list of christian persecutors. I do not advocate that and would oppose those who caused misery and death by personal attack on christians. I don't think mockery by atheists is the same as christians telling people they should be stoned and the Judeo-christian god has condemned them to eternal punishment, do you?

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:03)

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:43) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:43) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 06 2009,14:10) Are Christians feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex? The reason for so many homosexuals threads is to emphasize to you seculars your denial that they are predators. Stu started it by saying that homosexuality has no vitims. When challenged he did not retract it. Had he retracted it we wouldn't have so many threads. thinker HOMSEXUALITY has no victims. Predators have victims. Not all predators are homosexual. They are not the same thing. Learn some logic. Stuart Then heterosexuality and beastility has no victims. Only predators have victims. Btw, I took courses in logic. thinker

Good grief. Now we are introducing bestiality, which DOES have victims.

The courses in logic didn't work.

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:05)

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:44) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:50) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 07 2009,17:48) So homosexuality is destroying the nation now.  I suppose it will be responsible for global warming next. And after that sunspots and the next supernova. Stuart All you need to do is read the book How Christianity Changed the World and you will learn what homosexuals have been responsible for in history. Their history indicates the potential threat they are now. I posted the link to the book so you could not divert from the issues with such questions. Here is the link again: Stop asking such questions when you have your answers at the click of your mouse! thinker Why did you not say you were a publisher specialising in christian homophobic literature from the beginning. We could have had your spurious posts removed by t8 as advertising. Stuart What! I am not a publisher. What are you smokin? I just read the book. thinker

It was hard to tell. So you don't have publishing interests in this book of homophobia?

You should still hit them up for something for the promotion you have given it!

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:06)

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:44) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:50) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 07 2009,17:48) So homosexuality is destroying the nation now.  I suppose it will be responsible for global warming next. And after that sunspots and the next supernova. Stuart All you need to do is read the book How Christianity Changed the World and you will learn what homosexuals have been responsible for in history. Their history indicates the potential threat they are now. I posted the link to the book so you could not divert from the issues with such questions. Here is the link again: Stop asking such questions when you have your answers at the click of your mouse! thinker Why did you not say you were a publisher specialising in christian homophobic literature from the beginning. We could have had your spurious posts removed by t8 as advertising. Stuart Just as I thought. You're not interested in the facts. thinker

I'll be interested when you actually post some facts.

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 09 2009,11:16)

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 06 2009,14:10) Are Christians feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex? I count 7 threads. So KJ, you are one-seventh of the reason for these threads. Also, like most active bbs's, subjects become hot topics and then fall away. We have seen this here with the Trinity, Pre-existence, Evolution, and other topics. I think homosexuality shouldn't be any different if it is to get fair treatment that is. Are you suggesting that we shouldn't talk about it? That it cannot have the limelight even for a while? If so, are you feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex?

Tee hee. Evolution discussion has 'fallen away' because opposing it has been shown to require the opposer to lie!

Stuart

[kejonn]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 08 2009,18:16)

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 06 2009,14:10) Are Christians feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex? I count 7 threads. So KJ, you are one-seventh of the reason for these threads.

Why the other 6 then? Wouldn't one or two suffice?

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Also, like most active bbs's, subjects become hot topics and then fall away. We have seen this here with the Trinity, Pre-existence, Evolution, and other topics.

Perhaps, but all of the recent homosexual threads carry the same basic theme: “God hates fags”.

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I think homosexuality shouldn't be any different if it is to get fair treatment that is. Are you suggesting that we shouldn't talk about it? That it cannot have the limelight even for a while?

As above, I am suggesting less threads. The fact that so many threads are started is a sign of overt homophobia.

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If so, are you feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex?

Not in the slightest, because I desire the opposite sex. The difference is that I don't try to pretend that others who do not desire as I do are wrong. I like vanilla, others like chocolate. I like brunettes, others prefer blondes. I prefer a gal who is “natural”, others like women who pile on the make-up.

The keyword here is “preference”. Until you are in another's shoes, do not presume to say what is right or wrong is this particular component of life.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 08 2009,09:41)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2009,00:05) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 05 2009,22:10) Are Christians feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex? Hi kejonn How are you? Quite well actually. About to add another year to my age status, but feeling good. Quote No, its not a fear for perfect love cast out fear. But it is a concern for the direction our country is taking. There are much worse things than homosexuality to consider. Why fixate so much on this one topic? Quote The lifestyles of Homosexuals are sinful, and as believers in the scriptures it is our responsibility to warn them of the pending judgment of God regardless if it is popular or not! Hope you and yours are doing well! Keith WJ, Even as a Christian, I never understood the condemnation of homosexuals. So many would point from the pulpit that homosexuals were going to hell, but if you recall, anyone who does not accept Jesus is in that same boat. Correct? That is why I do not understand the emphasis over this one “sin” over others when the belief is that failrure to accept Jesus is the real threat?

Hi Kejonn

What emphasis?

I have been on this board for three years with over 6000 post and do not remember the subject hardly even discussed!

Stu has constantly been condemning Christians and making jabs about homophobia among believers, so finally someone like Pallidin decided to make a post about it.

Makes you wonder why he is so defending of them and why he hates Christianity so much!  

The only condemnation is the lifestyle and the sin and not the sinner.

If you are a Christian then scripturally you should also condemn the sin and not be accepting of it.

The fear is among the gays toward Judeo Christians who condemn the sin by scriptures and point them to a different lifestyle in Jesus, the abundant life. In their circles Christians are enemies.

You do not here Born again Christians crying gays are enemies!

Those who do not want to hear the truth and love their sin are the ones who are afraid!

Shall we say they have a Moralphobia!

WJ

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Quote (Stu @ Aug. 09 2009,12:40)

Good grief. Now we are introducing bestiality, which DOES have victims. The courses in logic didn't work. Stuart

Beastiality?

Theoretically, that could advance evolution.

[Proclaimer]

Let's face it we all know that KJ and Stu are only using this topic as a guise for their persecution for believers. Civilised people can debate, but persecution is fueled by hate and is quite obvious when it rears its ugly head. Stu and KJ say or think that we persecute Homosexuals which isn't true (some might) and the whole time they are really persecuting us.

If I went to a Homosexual BBS and said to them what they say to us, then I think people would consider me as homophobic.

Ironic. When you try to point out a speck you often cannot see the log in your own eye.

So why is it bad to persecute Homosexuals and OK to persecute believers?
Is this not pathetic?

It is not right to persecute anyone.

Wake up.

[Proclaimer]

What is the difference between telling a Christian that his faith is wrong, pathetic, and brainless and telling a Homosexual that his lifestyle is wrong and that he is pathetic, or telling a negro that he is brainless and superstitious because of what they are.

No difference.

If you say to anyone from a group that you do not belong to (and especially if it has been persecuted for their looks, culture or beliefs), whether they be negro, jew, homosexual, christian, female, male, poor, foreigner, disabled, then you are persecuting them.

It doesn't matter what group it is, it is persecution plain and simple. If you do not agree with someone, then you can always ignore them. Jesus taught that we should love people as we love ourself. It is sin that we should hate. It is OK, to hate murder, theft, etc. But not the person.

Think for a moment Stu. Imagine if you translated all you have directed toward believers here and posted (with contextual translation) the same stuff in a forum about homosexuals, woman, negroes, or some other group that you are not from, then it would be persecution.

Surely that means you are no better than what you are falsely accusing us of.

Look at yourself Stu. Often people hate the very thing they are. They persecute people and cannot see that the thing they hate is really them. I think KJ should heed these words too.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 09 2009,12:40)

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:03) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:43) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:43) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 06 2009,14:10) Are Christians feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex? The reason for so many homosexuals threads is to emphasize to you seculars your denial that they are predators. Stu started it by saying that homosexuality has no vitims. When challenged he did not retract it. Had he retracted it we wouldn't have so many threads. thinker HOMSEXUALITY has no victims. Predators have victims. Not all predators are homosexual. They are not the same thing. Learn some logic. Stuart Then heterosexuality and beastility has no victims. Only predators have victims. Btw, I took courses in logic. thinker Good grief.  Now we are introducing bestiality, which DOES have victims. The courses in logic didn't work. Stuart

You were the first to introduce beastiality. You said that homosexuality unlike heterosexuality and beastiality has no victims.

thinker

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 09 2009,12:43)

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:06) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:44) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:50) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 07 2009,17:48) So homosexuality is destroying the nation now.  I suppose it will be responsible for global warming next. And after that sunspots and the next supernova. Stuart All you need to do is read the book How Christianity Changed the World and you will learn what homosexuals have been responsible for in history. Their history indicates the potential threat they are now. I posted the link to the book so you could not divert from the issues with such questions. Here is the link again: Stop asking such questions when you have your answers at the click of your mouse! thinker Why did you not say you were a publisher specialising in christian homophobic literature from the beginning. We could have had your spurious posts removed by t8 as advertising. Stuart Just as I thought. You're not interested in the facts. thinker I'll be interested when you actually post some facts. Stuart

Your statement is another proof why you chose the avatar with the ape covering its eyes. Read my OP  on the Homosexual Pedophilia in Ancient Rome thread. I gave historical facts and the link to the book which gives the whole story. Until you stop covering your eyes this will continue to be a futile exercise.

You are not interested in facts. You only want to argue.

thinker

[Stu]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,20:38)

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 09 2009,12:40) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:03) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:43) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:43) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 06 2009,14:10) Are Christians feeling threatened by those who don't desire the opposite sex? The reason for so many homosexuals threads is to emphasize to you seculars your denial that they are predators. Stu started it by saying that homosexuality has no vitims. When challenged he did not retract it. Had he retracted it we wouldn't have so many threads. thinker HOMSEXUALITY has no victims. Predators have victims. Not all predators are homosexual. They are not the same thing. Learn some logic. Stuart Then heterosexuality and beastility has no victims. Only predators have victims. Btw, I took courses in logic. thinker Good grief.  Now we are introducing bestiality, which DOES have victims. The courses in logic didn't work. Stuart You were the first to introduce beastiality. You said that homosexuality unlike heterosexuality and beastiality has no victims. thinker

Can you please show me where I said that?

You would be a libel prosecutor's dream.

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,20:45)

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 09 2009,12:43) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:06) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 08 2009,04:44) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,02:50) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 07 2009,17:48) So homosexuality is destroying the nation now.  I suppose it will be responsible for global warming next. And after that sunspots and the next supernova. Stuart All you need to do is read the book How Christianity Changed the World and you will learn what homosexuals have been responsible for in history. Their history indicates the potential threat they are now. I posted the link to the book so you could not divert from the issues with such questions. Here is the link again: Stop asking such questions when you have your answers at the click of your mouse! thinker Why did you not say you were a publisher specialising in christian homophobic literature from the beginning. We could have had your spurious posts removed by t8 as advertising. Stuart Just as I thought. You're not interested in the facts. thinker I'll be interested when you actually post some facts. Stuart Your statement is another proof why you chose the avatar with the ape covering its eyes. Read my OP  on the Homosexual Pedophilia in Ancient Rome thread. I gave historical facts and the link to the book which gives the whole story. Until you stop covering your eyes this will continue to be a futile exercise. You are not interested in facts. You only want to argue. thinker

You have not posted a single fact.

You will never know whether I am interested in facts until you do try posting one.

Stuart

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