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Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 05 2009,22:04) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 03 2009,14:57) If the truth be known, most everyone has probably at some time in their life been approached by some one gay for sex!
I am 42 and have never been hit on by a homosexual. I have had several women make such passes at me.Maybe you put off a subconscious homosexual vibe?
Hi KejonnWhen the women made passes at you, were they Adults and you were between the age of 12-16?
Where were you raised?
I was raised in Alexandria VA, 10 miles from Washington DC.
No I was just a cute boy between 12 and 16 years old when those 4 occurences happened.
I suppose when you get older they get more timid for fear of getting the crap beat out of them.
Before stu gets his panties in a wad I should clarify that I wouldn't beat them up, but they would get an earfull of Jesus Christ and his love for them.
Blessings Keith
Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 06 2009,00:56) Quote (Stu @ Aug. 04 2009,20:41) From: http://www.springerlink.com/content/6wnv26q344t52hw7/ Donna Eshuys1 Contact Information and Stephen Smallbone1
(1) School of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Griffith University, Queensland, 4001, AustraliaPublished online: 2 August 2006
Abstract This article examines associations between self-reported religious affiliations and official offense histories among 111 incarcerated adult male sexual offenders. Four categories of religiosity were devised according to self-reported continuities and discontinuities in life-course religious affiliations: atheists, dropouts, converts, and stayers. ANCOVAs indicated that stayers (those who maintained religious involvement from childhood to adulthood) had more sexual offense convictions, more victims, and younger victims, than other groups. Results challenge assumptions that religious involvement should, as with other crime, serve to deter sexual offending behavior.Stuart
Ary you claiming that only Athiests are perfect?
What does 'perfect' mean?Stuart
I think I would rather be beaten up by a christian than suffer the tedium of christian prostyletising!
Would you like ME to tell YOU about Jesus? That should make anyone quiver in their boots.
Stuart
You homophobia looks no less ugly for that post.
Your credibility is not doing that well either.
Stuart
Are you the official warner, thinker?
Anyway, you are wrong. The gay community amounts to 30% of the population and the rate of predation is one third of that in the heterosexual population.
It might be true, you have no evidence to contradict it.
Stuart
Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 06 2009,00:22) So you think the way to improve your position is to insult and bellitle your opposition.
How about you answer my asking of the same question to you?Stuart
WJ,
I think you are taking a personal experience and extrapolating such to society in general which may be unfair. Ask almost any girl in the same age group and they will have plenty of stories of older men hitting on them. Face it men are biologically driven and this is true for both gay and straight. I am not justifying any bad behaviour but merely pointing out that you unfairly focus on one subset of the population. Women are rarely sexual predators so not being approached by older woman during the same ages only points to men not gay men necessarily. You need to look at the numbers of women being abused by straight men to realize this is a male problem not one of orientation. I think your own situation and history has understandably given you a bias that affects your objectivity on this subject.
WJ,
As for the gay agenda to convert people, at least according to the American Psychological Association it won't work. This is from their latest findings:
“Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?
No, human beings cannot choose to be either gay or straight. For most people, sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.
Can Therapy Change Sexual Orientation?
No; even though most homosexuals live successful, happy lives, some homosexual or bisexual people may seek to change their sexual orientation through therapy, often coerced by family members or religious groups to try and do so. The reality is that homosexuality is not an illness. It does not require treatment and is not changeable. However, not all gay, lesbian, and bisexual people who seek assistance from a mental health professional want to change their sexual orientation. Gay, lesbian, and bisexual people may seek psychological help with the coming out process or for strategies to deal with prejudice, but most go into therapy for the same reasons and life issues that bring straight people to mental health professionals.
What About So-Called “Conversion Therapies”?
Some therapists who undertake so-called conversion therapy report that they have been able to change their clients' sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Close scrutiny of these reports, however. show several factors that cast doubt on their claims. For example, many of these claims come from organizations with an ideological perspective that condemns homosexuality. Furthermore, their claims are poorly documented; for example, treatment outcome is not followed and reported over time, as would be the standard to test the validity of any mental health intervention. “Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 06 2009,09:21) It is the Judeo Christian laws that have created the conscience needed that prevent history from repeating itself. That conscience is slowly eroding the more we become a permissive society. Eventually history will repeat itself and we will become like the ancients. Some of us will learn from history and some of us will not. This is the second time you have been warned.
thinker
Tell me what period of history would you trumpet as the triumph of Judeo Christian law, so I can compare how far we as a society have fallen. Evidently before this so called conscience we were utterly depraved and now we are evidently moving away from its ideals and so bound to fall.Expand your theory and let me know which historical time period we are devolving into a like moral state and which period you lay out as a triumph of this moral conscience. It may be a good teaching point
Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 05 2009,19:19) Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 05 2009,14:03) Are you talking about these Christians? Quote A survey of U.S. Catholic dioceses conducted by the Associated Press … found that 1,341 clergy members have been accused of molesting children since the 1950s. Seems like Christianity is still changing the world.
Yes Christianity is still changing the world because pedophilia is still against the law. I am aware that some who name the name of Christ do abhorrent things to children. My head is not buried in the sand like yours. I guess you don't care that people like you are assisting the homosexuals in changing our our culture to return to the ancient pagan cultures. Read the book and open your eyes.thinker
Greetings Thinker……True christianity is the same today as yesterday….It is the interlectual vandals that take the scriptures and twist and change them to suit themselves so as to make themselves seem all knowing….It is those type of so called christians that afford fertile ground for the celebration of perversity that is our world today….God loves the sinner but hates the sin…Deviate behavior is every bit as much a sin as pride and murder and any other transgression of the law…Quote (Cato @ Aug. 06 2009,23:41) Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 06 2009,09:21) It is the Judeo Christian laws that have created the conscience needed that prevent history from repeating itself. That conscience is slowly eroding the more we become a permissive society. Eventually history will repeat itself and we will become like the ancients. Some of us will learn from history and some of us will not. This is the second time you have been warned.
thinker
Tell me what period of history would you trumpet as the triumph of Judeo Christian law, so I can compare how far we as a society have fallen. Evidently before this so called conscience we were utterly depraved and now we are evidently moving away from its ideals and so bound to fall.Expand your theory and let me know which historical time period we are devolving into a like moral state and which period you lay out as a triumph of this moral conscience. It may be a good teaching point
Greetings Cato…..I would think that the time you speak of is yet to come….when this world as we know it gives way to Gods government….Quote (Stu @ Aug. 06 2009,19:54) Are you the official warner, thinker? Anyway, you are wrong. The gay community amounts to 30% of the population and the rate of predation is one third of that in the heterosexual population.
It might be true, you have no evidence to contradict it.
Stuart
Greetings stu…..I think you percentages are very conservative….since we all fall short and are sinners,I think it would only be fair to include the number of homophobes into your stats…after all they are mindfull of the transgression and preocupied with it….they just don't practice it alledgedly…Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 07 2009,00:24) Greetings Cato…..I would think that the time you speak of is yet to come….when this world as we know it gives way to Gods government….
Hi Theodore,It appeared to me that Thinker is claiming civilization is in a moral decline with acceptance of homosexuality being one indication thereof. It's cause (according to Thinker) is that we are evidently turning away from judeo-christian conscience. I want to know if we are indeed in such a decline, at one point, period or civilization were we at the apogee of christian moral correctness? If we are in decline we must decline from some point or state. I would imagine that such views are romantic and not in tune with any reality.
As far as God's future government, I think this is wishful thinking on the part of people constantly trying to anthropomorphize God. The universe itself is God's government, complete with its laws of cause and effect. How we as temporal human beings handle our interactions I believe is left to us for better or worse. The purpose of incarnation is to learn and grow; how are we to do that as a species if the Godhead himself dictates such cosmically trivial aspects of creation as our internal governance?
WorshippingJesus said:
Quote I will stand up and shout as loud as I can that you have no right to try and make my church ordain you as a minister. Start your own church.
WJ,
Exactly! Let them start their own religion.thinker
Quote (Cato @ Aug. 06 2009,23:12) WJ, As for the gay agenda to convert people, at least according to the American Psychological Association it won't work. This is from their latest findings:
“Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?
No, human beings cannot choose to be either gay or straight. For most people, sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.
Can Therapy Change Sexual Orientation?
No; even though most homosexuals live successful, happy lives, some homosexual or bisexual people may seek to change their sexual orientation through therapy, often coerced by family members or religious groups to try and do so. The reality is that homosexuality is not an illness. It does not require treatment and is not changeable. However, not all gay, lesbian, and bisexual people who seek assistance from a mental health professional want to change their sexual orientation. Gay, lesbian, and bisexual people may seek psychological help with the coming out process or for strategies to deal with prejudice, but most go into therapy for the same reasons and life issues that bring straight people to mental health professionals.
What About So-Called “Conversion Therapies”?
Some therapists who undertake so-called conversion therapy report that they have been able to change their clients' sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Close scrutiny of these reports, however. show several factors that cast doubt on their claims. For example, many of these claims come from organizations with an ideological perspective that condemns homosexuality. Furthermore, their claims are poorly documented; for example, treatment outcome is not followed and reported over time, as would be the standard to test the validity of any mental health intervention. “
The above reflects the Behaviorist philosophy that we are all slaves to ur bodily appetites.thinker
Quote (Cato @ Aug. 06 2009,07:12) WJ, As for the gay agenda to convert people, at least according to the American Psychological Association it won't work. This is from their latest findings:
“Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?
No, human beings cannot choose to be either gay or straight. For most people, sexual orientation emerges in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.
Can Therapy Change Sexual Orientation?
No; even though most homosexuals live successful, happy lives, some homosexual or bisexual people may seek to change their sexual orientation through therapy, often coerced by family members or religious groups to try and do so. The reality is that homosexuality is not an illness. It does not require treatment and is not changeable. However, not all gay, lesbian, and bisexual people who seek assistance from a mental health professional want to change their sexual orientation. Gay, lesbian, and bisexual people may seek psychological help with the coming out process or for strategies to deal with prejudice, but most go into therapy for the same reasons and life issues that bring straight people to mental health professionals.
What About So-Called “Conversion Therapies”?
Some therapists who undertake so-called conversion therapy report that they have been able to change their clients' sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Close scrutiny of these reports, however. show several factors that cast doubt on their claims. For example, many of these claims come from organizations with an ideological perspective that condemns homosexuality. Furthermore, their claims are poorly documented; for example, treatment outcome is not followed and reported over time, as would be the standard to test the validity of any mental health intervention. “
Hi catoLots of mumbo jumbo without any facts. IMO
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 07 2009,03:13) Hi All Only 4 votes and 4 people. So far it is 50%, thats a pretty high number dont you think?
WJ
WJ,
It is an exceptionally high number seeing that homosexuals are such a small part of the over all population. Imagine how the poll would be if homosexuals were even a simple majority.To our secularist friends: History proves and people today can testify that homosexuals are predators. Get your heads out of the sand!
thinker
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