Holy Jerusalem

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2013,01:49)

j42 Quote So how does chapters Rev 21:10-27 fit in? There are boundaries. 2414km square.  That's not a large area.  We supposed to get the whole earth and the heaven, and even the universe. If everyone is going to be ONE, then why are there nations still there. Why the division? Why do kings bring their glory and honor into it?  What kings? Two visions.  The holy city new Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven, just after 2nd judgement,  death already destroyed, with God dwelling amongst the people, (there cannot be any more wars from here now) Satan gone. then the next vision REV 21:10 onwards depicting a city with boundaries and nations.  And the nations are getting healed and no-one defiled can enter this holy city. 2 Visions.  Not one continuation.  But two different visions.  Slightly the same, but different.  Why? Something to think about. understand that the boundaries are those of the heavenly Jerusalem because that city is not a part of the earth but comes down to earth , also know that only the 144k are receiving immortality no men living on earth as received immortality and incorruptibility ,only the 144k have that so that everlasting live ,could still be corrupt ,this is why that city has boundaries so that no one can enter it that is corrupt, just as it was with Moses and the tabernacle

Hi Pierre,

But when the earth is melted, and holy Jerusalem comes down from heaven, the 2nd resurrection has already occurred and finished. Death is gone into the lake of fire also, no more death ever again. So there must be more than 144,000 saved by this stage. (I'm referring specifically to Rev 21:2)

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 18 2013,03:50)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2013,01:49) j42 Quote So how does chapters Rev 21:10-27 fit in? There are boundaries. 2414km square.  That's not a large area.  We supposed to get the whole earth and the heaven, and even the universe. If everyone is going to be ONE, then why are there nations still there. Why the division? Why do kings bring their glory and honor into it?  What kings? Two visions.  The holy city new Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven, just after 2nd judgement,  death already destroyed, with God dwelling amongst the people, (there cannot be any more wars from here now) Satan gone. then the next vision REV 21:10 onwards depicting a city with boundaries and nations.  And the nations are getting healed and no-one defiled can enter this holy city. 2 Visions.  Not one continuation.  But two different visions.  Slightly the same, but different.  Why? Something to think about. understand that the boundaries are those of the heavenly Jerusalem because that city is not a part of the earth but comes down to earth , also know that only the 144k are receiving immortality no men living on earth as received immortality and incorruptibility ,only the 144k have that so that everlasting live ,could still be corrupt ,this is why that city has boundaries so that no one can enter it that is corrupt, just as it was with Moses and the tabernacle Hi Pierre, But when the earth is melted, and holy Jerusalem comes down from heaven, the 2nd resurrection has already occurred and finished.  Death is gone into the lake of fire also, no more death ever again.  So there must be more than 144,000 saved by this stage.  (I'm referring specifically to Rev 21:2)

j42

the redeemed from the earth are in the number of 144k

all of the great crowed that have washed their robe are not numbered ,so those are all of us that have believed in their heart
the son of God,and apply the will of God,but no incorruptibility,is given to them (us) we will live on the earth and what ever other plan God may have in store ,but we will never be left alone any more the presence of God will be at all time felt and seen ,

Rev;21……… shows us what will be done , during the time that the heavenly Jerusalem is on earth ,it say that ” we will be healed from our what ever and so this must be an long process because what I believe what as save us is to trust in the gospel of God son but their is much to do in the way of removing all the tears ,even dead will be done with but only as the curse of Adam ,I believe dead will be there but only as a final judgement for someone sins against the holy spirit ,this as nothing to do with the second resurrection ,the law that says the soul that sins is the soul that will die for it ,

their is more but for now your turn

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2013,09:57)

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 18 2013,03:50) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2013,01:49) j42 Quote So how does chapters Rev 21:10-27 fit in? There are boundaries. 2414km square.  That's not a large area.  We supposed to get the whole earth and the heaven, and even the universe. If everyone is going to be ONE, then why are there nations still there. Why the division? Why do kings bring their glory and honor into it?  What kings? Two visions.  The holy city new Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven, just after 2nd judgement,  death already destroyed, with God dwelling amongst the people, (there cannot be any more wars from here now) Satan gone. then the next vision REV 21:10 onwards depicting a city with boundaries and nations.  And the nations are getting healed and no-one defiled can enter this holy city. 2 Visions.  Not one continuation.  But two different visions.  Slightly the same, but different.  Why? Something to think about. understand that the boundaries are those of the heavenly Jerusalem because that city is not a part of the earth but comes down to earth , also know that only the 144k are receiving immortality no men living on earth as received immortality and incorruptibility ,only the 144k have that so that everlasting live ,could still be corrupt ,this is why that city has boundaries so that no one can enter it that is corrupt, just as it was with Moses and the tabernacle Hi Pierre, But when the earth is melted, and holy Jerusalem comes down from heaven, the 2nd resurrection has already occurred and finished.  Death is gone into the lake of fire also, no more death ever again.  So there must be more than 144,000 saved by this stage.  (I'm referring specifically to Rev 21:2) j42 the redeemed from the earth are in the number of 144k all of the great crowed that have washed their robe are not numbered ,so those are all of us that have believed in their heart the son of God,and apply the will of God,but no incorruptibility,is given to them (us) we will live on the earth and what ever other plan God may have in store ,but we will never be left alone any more the presence of God will be at all time felt and seen , Rev;21……… shows us what will be done , during the time that the heavenly Jerusalem is on earth ,it say that ” we will be healed from our what ever and so this must be an long process because what I believe what as save us is to trust in the gospel of God son but their is much to do in the way of removing all the tears ,even dead will be done with but only as the curse of Adam ,I believe dead will be there but only as a final judgement for someone sins against the holy spirit ,this as nothing to do with the second resurrection ,the law that says the soul that sins is the soul that will die for it , their is more but for now your turn

Thanks Pierre.

I will get back to you later on this, cause I want to go through the scriptures first to get what I need, and this takes time. Speak later.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 18 2013,01:07)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2013,01:01) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 18 2013,00:58) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2013,00:41) Ed is a witness between us that “YHVH is GOD”(117). EdJ. Why is Ed the witness lacking knowledge? Who's witness are you? wakeup. Why is it that people always seem to ask the very question that is answered in the post they are responding to? EdJ. All your answers are not answering the scriptures,but your own doctrine that you have heeped up. And you are answering your own doctrine. You can not answer the scriptures,and you are not alone. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

The Scriptures are not questions, but what you ask is.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Edj.

We need to seek the scriptures,
and need to find the answers.
The scriptures creates the questions.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

Our minds create the questions and YHVH provides the answers.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,23:47)

Hi Wakeup, Our minds create the questions and YHVH provides the answers. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDj.

God always give the right answers.
And he does not contradict the scriptures.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,20:23)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,23:47) Hi Wakeup, Our minds create the questions and YHVH provides the answers. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. God always give the right answers. And he does not contradict the scriptures. wakeup.

wup

why then have you things wrong is it not because men s ears are not listening ,only listening to their own mind and heart

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2013,04:14)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,20:23) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,23:47) Hi Wakeup, Our minds create the questions and YHVH provides the answers. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. God always give the right answers. And he does not contradict the scriptures. wakeup. wup why then have you things wrong is it not because men s ears are not listening ,only listening to their own mind and heart

Terra.

You keep on saying I am wrong,but never come up with scriptures to proof me wrong.
This is the problem with you.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,23:23)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2013,04:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,20:23) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,23:47) Hi Wakeup, Our minds create the questions and YHVH provides the answers. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. God always give the right answers. And he does not contradict the scriptures. wakeup. wup why then have you things wrong is it not because men s ears are not listening ,only listening to their own mind and heart Terra. You keep on saying I am wrong,but never come up with scriptures to proof me wrong. This is the problem with you. wakeup.

wup

I believe if you do not ask me you know ,sorry .

but if you need to know the scriptures that goes along my view just ask a question to it and i be glad to answer you ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2013,10:12)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,23:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2013,04:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,20:23) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,23:47) Hi Wakeup, Our minds create the questions and YHVH provides the answers. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. God always give the right answers. And he does not contradict the scriptures. wakeup. wup why then have you things wrong is it not because men s ears are not listening ,only listening to their own mind and heart Terra. You keep on saying I am wrong,but never come up with scriptures to proof me wrong. This is the problem with you. wakeup. wup I believe if you do not ask me you know ,sorry . but if you need to know the scriptures that goes along my view just ask a question to it and i be glad to answer you ,

Terra.

I have just asked you a question.
Question:
Where did I go wrong?

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,11:12)

Terra. I have just asked you a question. Question: Where did I go wrong? wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

By trying to apply physical futurism to spiritual realities. That is how
you've come up with your private interpretation of Prophecy. (ref. 2Peter 1:20)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 20 2013,11:48)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,11:12) Terra. I have just asked you a question. Question: Where did I go wrong? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, By trying to apply physical futurism to spiritual realities. That is how you've come up with your private interpretation of Prophecy. (ref. 2Peter 1:20) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

Any private interpretations can be slammed with the scriptures.

So please slam me with scriptures.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,11:54)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 20 2013,11:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,11:12) Terra. I have just asked you a question. Question: Where did I go wrong? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, By trying to apply physical futurism to spiritual realities. That is how you've come up with your private interpretation of Prophecy. (ref. 2Peter 1:20) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Any private interpretations can be slammed with the scriptures. So please slam me with scriptures. wakeup.

“Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.” (Matt 21:43)

How can the “kingdom of God” be taken from someone that never had it? …as is your claim.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 20 2013,12:03)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,11:54) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 20 2013,11:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,11:12) Terra. I have just asked you a question. Question: Where did I go wrong? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, By trying to apply physical futurism to spiritual realities. That is how you've come up with your private interpretation of Prophecy. (ref. 2Peter 1:20) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Any private interpretations can be slammed with the scriptures. So please slam me with scriptures. wakeup. “Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.” (Matt 21:43) How can the “kingdom of God” be taken from someone that never had it?      …as is your claim.

EdJ.

The kingdom will be taken from the jews and given to the gentiles,for they have rejected the corner stone.

The gentiles will be first and the jews will be later.
The saints will teach the jews,
in the kingdom.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

How can the “kingdom of God” be taken from someone that never had it?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 20 2013,12:41)

How can the “kingdom of God” be taken from someone that never had it?

EDJ.

Their reward will be denied.
There will be gnashing of teeth, whe they find that they have been kept out of the kingdom.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

“The kingdom of God shall be taken from you.” really means
                        (to you)
'The kingdom of God shall not be given you.'  

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,06:12)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2013,10:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,23:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2013,04:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,20:23) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,23:47) Hi Wakeup, Our minds create the questions and YHVH provides the answers. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. God always give the right answers. And he does not contradict the scriptures. wakeup. wup why then have you things wrong is it not because men s ears are not listening ,only listening to their own mind and heart Terra. You keep on saying I am wrong,but never come up with scriptures to proof me wrong. This is the problem with you. wakeup. wup I believe if you do not ask me you know ,sorry . but if you need to know the scriptures that goes along my view just ask a question to it and i be glad to answer you , Terra. I have just asked you a question. Question: Where did I go wrong? wakeup.

wup

I have given you the answer wen I told you that you were wrong into your claim ;

you say;God always give the right answers.
And he does not contradict the scriptures.

I say ;why then have you things wrong

and I added ;;is it not because men s ears are not listening ,only listening to their own mind and heart;

do you understand it now

[abe]

Hi all.

Rev.22:3 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, and his servants shall serve him.

The throne shall be in WHAT ???

Peace…

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