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Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 24 2009,20:05) Quote (david @ Oct. 23 2009,21:47) Quote Princess Ok then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
–WJ
WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING THIS? Obviously, based on reality, logic, common sense, definitions, did I mention “reality”….obviously, you do see Oct 31 as a different day, for you do “different” things on that day, and every year you do those same “different” things on that special day, for you.
David,They just don't get it.
No Con,
You are the one that don't get it. You and David have refused to answer all the scriptures presented to you such as,“WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE SOMEONE ELSE'S SERVANT? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. “One man considers one day more sacred than another; “another man considers every day alike”. EACH ONE SHOULD BE “FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND. he who regards one day as special, does so to the lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. Rom 14:4-6”
Where did Paul say, “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Con and David?”
thinker
Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2009,16:43) Quote Why do you have a problem with us treating it like any other day? –WJ
YOU DON'T!
YOU DON'T!
David,
You have just broken the law of Christ. Paul said that “Love BELIEVETH all things.” WJ told you that he does not regard October 31 more than any other day and you don't believe him. Paul said, “Love believes all things.”You are bound by love to take WJ's word for it. One who loves would not contradict his brother and say “No you don't.” You are guilty of breaking the law David.
thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 25 2009,04:17) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 24 2009,20:05) Quote (david @ Oct. 23 2009,21:47) Quote Princess Ok then we should never give out tracts at all unless we do it everyday, right?
Unless you think there is something unholy about “Oct 31st” which is a day that the Lord has made!
We do not see the day as a different day, but somehow you guys do!
–WJ
WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING THIS? Obviously, based on reality, logic, common sense, definitions, did I mention “reality”….obviously, you do see Oct 31 as a different day, for you do “different” things on that day, and every year you do those same “different” things on that special day, for you.
David,They just don't get it.
No Con,
You are the one that don't get it. You and David have refused to answer all the scriptures presented to you such as,“WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE SOMEONE ELSE'S SERVANT? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. “One man considers one day more sacred than another; “another man considers every day alike”. EACH ONE SHOULD BE “FULLY CONVINCED IN HIS OWN MIND. he who regards one day as special, does so to the lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. Rom 14:4-6”
Where did Paul say, “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Con and David?”
thinker
We should not judge the servants of SatanWJ states demeaningly:
Quote That is your right. So run along now and stop judging others motives and conscience! Well, since you now have become a big boy, we can talk.
you must lure children in with candy and music during halloween, then you are going to speak truth to them, for you to use this tatic, apparently children don't like you, for you have to bribe them.
if your church gives candy and music out every week and you say it is alright. then what is the big deal about sabbath, you do not even know what my sabbath is, so who is judging who?
Quote Isn't this what we have been trying to say? Then why are you and David and Con trying to cast a shadow of doubt on our conscience? then don't boast on how many get saved on your halloween.
Quote Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) do you think there is a difference between right ruling and judgement?
Your question makes no sense, maybe you should reword it!is there a difference between right rulings and judgements?
if a man kills another man over food, can you rightly say that this is wrong, can you judge him and give him sentence? no you cannot past judgement, you can say he was wrong. clear enough for you.
you show the world what your left and right hand do. Look at us, look at us, and what we do for the Lord !!!!
i tend to believe you don't want to loose your freedom of religion.
your freedom is bondage to the world due to you conform to it.
you should think again what message you are sending to the children, you are sugar coating it for them, afraid to hurt their feelings, are they not worthly of the truth, you are cheating the children of truth, tread carefully, WJ, the children are precious in his sight.
Mat 19:14 But Christ said, `Suffer the children, and forbid them not, to come unto me, for of such is the reign of the heavens;'
worldly speaking, children love halloween, it is the only day of the year they can receive an abundantance of candy, so could you try to make it healthy for them, at least care for their health if you cannot care for their salvation.
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 25 2009,13:15) WJ states demeaningly: Quote That is your right. So run along now and stop judging others motives and conscience! Well, since you now have become a big boy, we can talk.
you must lure children in with candy and music during halloween, then you are going to speak truth to them, for you to use this tatic, apparently children don't like you, for you have to bribe them.
if your church gives candy and music out every week and you say it is alright. then what is the big deal about sabbath, you do not even know what my sabbath is, so who is judging who?
Quote Isn't this what we have been trying to say? Then why are you and David and Con trying to cast a shadow of doubt on our conscience? then don't boast on how many get saved on your halloween.
Quote Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) do you think there is a difference between right ruling and judgement?
Your question makes no sense, maybe you should reword it!is there a difference between right rulings and judgements?
if a man kills another man over food, can you rightly say that this is wrong, can you judge him and give him sentence? no you cannot past judgement, you can say he was wrong. clear enough for you.
you show the world what your left and right hand do. Look at us, look at us, and what we do for the Lord !!!!
i tend to believe you don't want to loose your freedom of religion.
your freedom is bondage to the world due to you conform to it.
you should think again what message you are sending to the children, you are sugar coating it for them, afraid to hurt their feelings, are they not worthly of the truth, you are cheating the children of truth, tread carefully, WJ, the children are precious in his sight.
Mat 19:14 But Christ said, `Suffer the children, and forbid them not, to come unto me, for of such is the reign of the heavens;'
worldly speaking, children love halloween, it is the only day of the year they can receive an abundantance of candy, so could you try to make it healthy for them, at least care for their health if you cannot care for their salvation.
“How many thousands have been carried to heaven instrumentally upon the wings of these tracts, none can tell …” — Charles Spurgeonthinker
Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 25 2009,14:03) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 25 2009,13:15) WJ states demeaningly: Quote That is your right. So run along now and stop judging others motives and conscience! Well, since you now have become a big boy, we can talk.
you must lure children in with candy and music during halloween, then you are going to speak truth to them, for you to use this tatic, apparently children don't like you, for you have to bribe them.
if your church gives candy and music out every week and you say it is alright. then what is the big deal about sabbath, you do not even know what my sabbath is, so who is judging who?
Quote Isn't this what we have been trying to say? Then why are you and David and Con trying to cast a shadow of doubt on our conscience? then don't boast on how many get saved on your halloween.
Quote Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) do you think there is a difference between right ruling and judgement?
Your question makes no sense, maybe you should reword it!is there a difference between right rulings and judgements?
if a man kills another man over food, can you rightly say that this is wrong, can you judge him and give him sentence? no you cannot past judgement, you can say he was wrong. clear enough for you.
you show the world what your left and right hand do. Look at us, look at us, and what we do for the Lord !!!!
i tend to believe you don't want to loose your freedom of religion.
your freedom is bondage to the world due to you conform to it.
you should think again what message you are sending to the children, you are sugar coating it for them, afraid to hurt their feelings, are they not worthly of the truth, you are cheating the children of truth, tread carefully, WJ, the children are precious in his sight.
Mat 19:14 But Christ said, `Suffer the children, and forbid them not, to come unto me, for of such is the reign of the heavens;'
worldly speaking, children love halloween, it is the only day of the year they can receive an abundantance of candy, so could you try to make it healthy for them, at least care for their health if you cannot care for their salvation.
“How many thousands have been carried to heaven instrumentally upon the wings of these tracts, none can tell …” — Charles Spurgeonthinker
You should give out drugs and tracts, drugs are much more popular than candy and many adults who are really lost can then find God according to your philosophy.Tradition
Halloween is one of many modern observances that we have inherited from our fathers, yet is not rooted in scripture.
For me, the fact that it is not rooted in scripture is all the evidence I need to not observe it.
But I do recognize the value in looking at the history of the 'unholi-day' and seeing if it is rooted in idolatry.
According to various Encylopedia's, the origins of this holiday are of demonic origin. Listed below are some quotes.
Encyclopedia.com's Electric Library:
Halloween
Pronounced As: halwn, häl- , Oct. 31, the eve of All Saints' Day, observed with traditional games and customs. The word comes from medieval England's All Hallows' eve (Old Eng. hallow=”saint). However, many of these customs predate Christianity, going back instead to Celtic practices associated with Nov. 1-the beginning of winter and the Celtic new year. Witches and other evil spirits were believed to roam the earth on this evening, playing tricks on human beings to mark the season of diminishing sunlight. Bonfires were lit, offerings were made of dainty foods and sweets, and people would disguise themselves as one of the roaming spirits, to avoid demonic persecution. Survivals of these early practices can be found in countries of Celtic influence today, such as the United States where children go from door to door in scary costumes demanding “trick or treat.Encyclopedia Britannica:
Halloween, also called All Hallows' Eve or All Hallows' Evening, a holy or hallowed evening observed on October 31, the eve of All Saints' Day. In modern times, it is the occasion for pranks and for children requesting treats or threatening tricks. In ancient Britain and Ireland, the Celtic festival of Samhain eve was observed on October 31, at the end of summer. This date was also the eve of the new year in both Celtic and Anglo-Saxon times and was the occasion for one of the ancient fire festivals when huge bonfires were set on hilltops to frighten away evil spirits. The date was connected with the return of herds from pasture, and laws and land tenures were renewed. The souls of the dead were supposed to revisit their homes on this day, and the autumnal festival acquired sinister significance, with ghosts, witches, hobgoblins, black cats, fairies, and demons of all kinds said to be roaming about. It was was the time to placate the supernatural powers controlling the processes of nature. In addition, Halloween was thought to be the most favorable time for divinations concerning marriage, luck, health, and death. It was the only day on which the help of the devil was invoked for such purposes.
Encarta Encyclopedia:
Origins, Halloween: Many of the ancient peoples of Europe marked the end of the harvest season and the beginning of winter by celebrating a holiday in late autumn. The most important of these holidays to influence later Halloween customs was Samhain, a holiday observed by the ancient Celts, a tribal people who inhabited most of Western and Central Europe in the first millennium BC. Among the Celts, Samhain marked the end of one year and the beginning of the next. It was one of four Celtic holidays linked to important transitions in the annual cycle of seasons.
Samhain began at sundown on October 31 and extended into the following day. According to the Celtic pagan religion, known as Druidism, the spirits of those who had died in the preceding year roamed the earth on Samhain evening. The Celts sought to ward off these spirits with offerings of food and drink. The Celts also built bonfires at sacred hilltop sites and performed rituals, often involving human and animal sacrifices, to honor Druid deities.
Does this sound like something we ought to be imitating?
Do we really want our children dressing up like witches and demons roaming about the streets and demanding offerings from human beings?
And worse yet, threaten to bring some unwanted harm on the person if they refuse to give the child (imitating demons) an offering in the form of a treat?
The obvious answer to the above questions for any believer in Yahweh is no!
What does Scripture say?
Let's look at what scripture says about witches:
Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto Yahweh: and because of these abominations Yahweh thy Elohim doth drive them out from before thee.Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of Elohim.So are our we and our children supposed to imitate witches and demonic practices or are we supposed to imitate Yahushua the Messiah?
We read later that Christians took the observance and “Christianized” it.
Continuing the MS Encarta Encyclopedia article above:
Origins, Halloween: By the end of the 1st century AD, the Roman Empire had conquered most of the Celtic lands (see Rome, History of). In the process of incorporating the Celts into their empire, the Romans adapted and absorbed some Celtic traditions as part of their own pagan and Catholic religious observances. In Britain, Romans blended local Samhain customs with their own pagan harvest festival honoring Pomona, goddess of fruit trees. Some scholars have suggested that the game of bobbing for apples derives from this Roman association of the holiday with fruit.
Pure Celtic influences lingered longer on the western fringes of Europe, especially in areas that were never brought firmly under Roman control, such as Ireland, Scotland, and the Brittany region of northwestern France. In these areas, Samhain was abandoned only when the local people converted to Christianity during the early Middle Ages, a period that lasted from the 5th to the 15th century. The Roman Catholic Church often incorporated modified versions of older religious traditions in order to win converts. For example, Pope Gregory IV sought to replace Samhain with All Saints' Day in 835. All Souls' Day, closer in spirit to Samhain and modern Halloween, was first instituted at a French monastery in 998 and quickly spread throughout Europe. Folk observances linked to these Christian holidays, including Halloween, thus preserved many of the ancient Celtic customs associated with Samhain.
So we see that the roots of this festival are found to be in demonic idolatry.
Some Christians tried to “Christianize” it to appease the idolaters, but who really converted who in this situation?
It seems to me that it was the idolaters that converted the Christians!
Believers are supposed to set the standard, not imitate the world and have a “Christian” version of everything like we see is so common today.
In an age where there are Christian rock stars, Christian comedians and even Christian magicians, is it any surprise that the Fathers of mainstream Christianity did such a thing?
Does it Matter?
Does Yahweh say that it is alright to observe the pagan festivals as long as we are honoring Him?
Notice carefully what he said to the Israelites before they entered the promised land;
Deuteronomy 12:29 (KJV) When Yahweh thy Elohim shall cut off the nations from before thee, where thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;
30 Take heed to thyself
that thou be not snared by following them, after that they are destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
31 Thou shalt not do so to Yahweh thy Elohim: for every abomination to Yahweh, which he hateth, have they done to their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
32 Whatever thing I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add to it, nor diminish from it.What we are really looking at here is Satanism's influence today:
“After one's own birthday, the two major Satanic holidays are Walpurgisnacht (May 1st) and Halloween (or All Hallow's Eve).”
The Satanic Bible by Anton Levey page 96, section on Religious Holidays.
But Scripture says:
1 Corinthians 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of Yahweh, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of Yahweh's table, and of the table of devils.
Let's stop the mixing of cups and the partaking of two tables.
Let's instead turn unto Yahweh.
Clearly, very clearly, it does matter!
Should There Be Idolatry in Our Worship?
In the fall, we participate in the great celebration called the “Feast of Tabernacles”.
We have been so very blessed by this feast with the fellowship, praising our Creator and giving honor to Yahweh throughout the feast.
Each year, we learn new things about what Yahweh wants for us in our lives and by these observances, our spiritual walk has been greatly blessed over the years.
There is a stark contrast between the Holy Days of Yahweh and the unholi-days of the world.
In the fall, we are approaching the time of year where we find the world keeping its unholi-days, I would like to consider what the scriptures have to say about incorporating pagan observances into our worship and into our lives.
We do know that there are many within the confines of Christianity that believe Yahweh 'doesn't mind' if we observe Christmas, have the Cross as the sign of our faith, call on upon Yahweh using a pagan name and many other such practices that have its roots in paganism.
The logic is, the meaning of these things 'has changed' and they no longer mean those things today.
Therefore Yahweh 'doesn't mind' if we doing these things since the meaning has 'changed'.
For examples, here are some responses that I have encountered over the years:
* It's okay to eat pork, the pig has been domesticated and is fed whole grains for it's food and is not roaming the earth eating garbage like it used to.
* It's okay to keep the Sabbath day on the first day instead of the 7th day because this is the day the Messiah resurrected. The 7th day is no longer kept by Christians so as long as you are keeping a Sabbath, Yahweh 'doesn't mind'.
* It's okay to keep Christmas, it used to be pagan but it doesn't mean that anymore
* It's okay to have the cross as the sign of our faith, it was pagan but it doesn't mean that anymore
* It's okay to call Yahweh by the pagan name “God”, it used to be pagan but it doesn't mean that anymore.
Within the logic of each of these statements, we find a common thread.
Each of them say that something has changed.
Because of that change, what USED to be wrong is now considered right! I believe this to be a snare.
Do we find any examples of this in the scriptures?
Is there anything in Genesis through Revelation that would justify the idea that something that used to be wrong can later on be right?
The answer is, “No, to the contrary!”.
Let's consider first of all the scriptural prohibition of incorporating paganism into our worship in the first place.
When the children of Israel were about to go into the promised land, Yahweh's desire was that they not take their pagan practices and apply it to Him:
Deuteronomy 12:28 – Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of YAHWEH thy Elohim.
29 – When YAHWEH thy Elohim shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;
30 – Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their elohim, saying, How did these nations serve their elohim? even so will I do likewise.Yahweh commanded that they not even inquire after their gods.
Yahweh didn't want them to 'learn the way of the heathen' at all!
This is consistent with what Yahweh said later:
Jeremiah 10:2 – Thus saith YAHWEH, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
“Learn not the way of the heathen”.
Here are 2 commandments in scripture where we are told to not learn about pagan worship, much less apply their practices to the worship of Yahweh.
Deuteronomy 12:31 – Thou shalt not do so unto YAHWEH thy Elohim: for every abomination to YAHWEH, which he hateth, have they done unto their elohim; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their elohim.
Yahweh says plainly “Thou shalt not do so unto YAHWEH thy Elohim”.
Do what?
Worship Yahweh in the way the other nations worship their deities. We find more evidence in the “New Testament” scriptures:
Galatians 4:8 – But then, indeed, when you did not know YAHWEH, you served those which by nature are not mighty ones.
9 – But now after you have known YAHWEH, or rather are known by YAHWEH, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage?
10 – You observe days and months and seasons and years.
11 – I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain.
Here is a direct condemnation of continuing in those 'weak and beggarly elements' which were in paganism/idolatry.This included the observance of certain days, months, times and years found within idolatry.
Some have tried to use this against those who observe the commanded feast days such as Passover, Feast of Tabernacles, etc. but Yahweh's commandments are not “weak and beggarly elements”.
Paul himself kept the feasts, surely he would be bringing condemnation upon himself here.
Acts 18:20 – When they desired him to tarry longer time with them, he consented not;
21 – But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if YAHWEH will. And he sailed from Ephesus.Therefore, this is certainly talking about Gentiles 'turning again' to idolatry, not returning to Yahweh's commandments!
Within that idolatry was the observance of days, months, times, etc that are not found in the pages of scripture.
It is clearly condemned here
We find the people of Judah were doing similar things in Jeremiah chapter 2.
They were claiming that they weren't polluted with Baal, but Yahweh said:
Jeremiah 2:22 – For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Master YAHWEH.
23 – How canst thou say, I am not polluted, I have not gone after Baalim? see thy way in the valley, know what thou hast done: thou art a swift dromedary traversing her ways;They claimed they weren't polluted, but apparently their actions showed otherwise.
Therefore it is certainly wrong to mix paganism into worship. Paganism is actually Satanism.
1Corinthians 10:20 – But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to Elohim: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. 21 – Ye cannot drink the cup of YAHWEH, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of YAHWEH's table, and of the table of devils.
22 – Do we provoke YAHWEH to jealousy? are we stronger than he?Why would anyone believe it is okay to incorporate Satanism into our worship?
How terrible!
The Egyptians observed many of these pagan practices, what did Yahweh command Israel?
Leviticus 18:2 – Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am YAHWEH your Elohim.
3 – After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances.
4 – Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am YAHWEH your Elohim.
5 – Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am YAHWEH.They are told specifically to keep Yahweh's commandments, not the ones of the Egyptians nor the ones in the land of Canaan.
Yet, we find in modern day mainstream Christianity that people are doing these very things.
We are told to keep Yahweh's commandments and not add to them nor take away from them:
Deuteronomy 12:32 – What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Did the children of Israel obey these commands?
Psalms 106:32 – They angered him also at the waters of strife, so that it went ill with Moses for their sakes:
33 – Because they provoked his spirit, so that he spake unadvisedly with his lips.
34 – They did not destroy the nations, concerning whom YAHWEH commanded them:
35 – But were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works.They did not.
How about today, can we participate in pagan practices today?
Does Yahweh indeed have a double standard?
Should we mingle among the heathen and learn their works?
Certainly no.
Yahweh is no respecter of persons and shows no partiality.
Colossians 3:25 – But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
1Peter 1:13 – Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the favor that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Yahushua the Messiah; 14 – as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance;
15 – but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
16 – because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”
17 – And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay [here] in fear;On Judgment day, Yahweh will judge each without partiality or respecter of persons.
If something was wrong in 2000BCE then it is also wrong in the 21st century.
Hebrews 13:7 – Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of YAHWEH to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct.
8 – Yahushua the Messiah is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
9 – Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by favor, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.Christmas, Easter, Cross symbols and various other 'strange doctrines' (though under different names) were alive and well in Yahushua's time and they are alive and well in the 21st century.
It was wrong then, it is wrong now.
Consider this, if something was wrong in the year 300…in what year did it become acceptable to Yahweh? 301? 400? 500?? 1900??
The answer is NEVER.
Regardless of excuses, reasoning's, etc. there is one standard that we will be expected to live by on Judgment day and that is Yahweh's word.
If Yahweh's word says it is wrong then it is ALWAYS wrong.
I have yet to see a pig chewing the cud.
Until the day I see a pig chewing the cud, I will declare it UNCLEAN as Yahweh's word says.
These are all attempts to undermine the word of Yahweh.
If it was wrong to change the Sabbath to Sunday in years gone by, it is wrong now.
If it was wrong to take heathen customs and apply them to Yahweh in years gone by, then it is wrong now.
Yahweh does not change. Shouldn't the roots of our worship be in the scriptures rather than in idolatry and vain customs?
Yet just the opposite is embraced today…all with a million excuses, none of which will stand. All of these are embraced and Yahweh's commandments are rejected.
Yahweh commands us to keep the feasts, keep the Sabbaths, call upon His name and walk in HIS ways, not the ways of the world.
Romans 12:2 – And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of YAHWEH.
Only when we refuse to be conformed to this world and yield ourselves to be transformed by the renewing of our mind will we know what the good and acceptable and perfect will of Yahweh.
Therefore, I call upon all to forsake vain tradition and to walk in the commandments of Yahweh.
Our fathers have inherited lies, but let's worship our Father in Spirit and in truth:
John 4:23 – But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24 – Elohim is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.Yahweh is seeking those who will worship Him in Spirit and in truth, not vain and idolatrous worship from the gods of Egypt in generations past.
Joshua 24:14 – Now therefore fear YAHWEH, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the elohim which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye YAHWEH.
HalleluYah, when all is said and done we can know that we are doing right if our conduct is according to the Word of Yahweh.
Let's put away the practices of the wicked and lets embrace the practices found in the word of Yahweh.
The Word of Yahweh is Yahushua the Messiah.
We know that He never observed such things, nor did He command them.
Therefore let us walk as He walked!
1John 2:4 – He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 – But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of YAHWEH is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
6 – He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.We can rest in this promise.
Let's allow Yahushua the Messiah to be in us and allow the Spirit of Yahweh to convict our hearts to worship our Almighty Father Yahweh in Spirit and in TRUTH, no matter what year we live in.
Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 24 2009,18:15) WJ states demeaningly: Quote That is your right. So run along now and stop judging others motives and conscience! Well, since you now have become a big boy, we can talk.
you must lure children in with candy and music during halloween, then you are going to speak truth to them, for you to use this tatic, apparently children don't like you, for you have to bribe them.
if your church gives candy and music out every week and you say it is alright. then what is the big deal about sabbath, you do not even know what my sabbath is, so who is judging who?
Quote Isn't this what we have been trying to say? Then why are you and David and Con trying to cast a shadow of doubt on our conscience? then don't boast on how many get saved on your halloween.
Quote Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) do you think there is a difference between right ruling and judgement?
Your question makes no sense, maybe you should reword it!is there a difference between right rulings and judgements?
if a man kills another man over food, can you rightly say that this is wrong, can you judge him and give him sentence? no you cannot past judgement, you can say he was wrong. clear enough for you.
you show the world what your left and right hand do. Look at us, look at us, and what we do for the Lord !!!!
i tend to believe you don't want to loose your freedom of religion.
your freedom is bondage to the world due to you conform to it.
you should think again what message you are sending to the children, you are sugar coating it for them, afraid to hurt their feelings, are they not worthly of the truth, you are cheating the children of truth, tread carefully, WJ, the children are precious in his sight.
Mat 19:14 But Christ said, `Suffer the children, and forbid them not, to come unto me, for of such is the reign of the heavens;'
worldly speaking, children love halloween, it is the only day of the year they can receive an abundantance of candy, so could you try to make it healthy for them, at least care for their health if you cannot care for their salvation.
It is funny, they foam at the mouth about the Sabbath, but they get all warm and fuzzy about Halloween, Ea(ish)ter, and Christmas.1) Dress up as demons.
2) Paint eggs, and tell stories about magical bunnies.
3) Little Fat men in red suits, with elves as helpers.But spit on:
1) Gods Sabbath.
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 29 2009,00:17) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 24 2009,18:15) WJ states demeaningly: Quote That is your right. So run along now and stop judging others motives and conscience! Well, since you now have become a big boy, we can talk.
you must lure children in with candy and music during halloween, then you are going to speak truth to them, for you to use this tatic, apparently children don't like you, for you have to bribe them.
if your church gives candy and music out every week and you say it is alright. then what is the big deal about sabbath, you do not even know what my sabbath is, so who is judging who?
Quote Isn't this what we have been trying to say? Then why are you and David and Con trying to cast a shadow of doubt on our conscience? then don't boast on how many get saved on your halloween.
Quote Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 23 2009,21:06) do you think there is a difference between right ruling and judgement?
Your question makes no sense, maybe you should reword it!is there a difference between right rulings and judgements?
if a man kills another man over food, can you rightly say that this is wrong, can you judge him and give him sentence? no you cannot past judgement, you can say he was wrong. clear enough for you.
you show the world what your left and right hand do. Look at us, look at us, and what we do for the Lord !!!!
i tend to believe you don't want to loose your freedom of religion.
your freedom is bondage to the world due to you conform to it.
you should think again what message you are sending to the children, you are sugar coating it for them, afraid to hurt their feelings, are they not worthly of the truth, you are cheating the children of truth, tread carefully, WJ, the children are precious in his sight.
Mat 19:14 But Christ said, `Suffer the children, and forbid them not, to come unto me, for of such is the reign of the heavens;'
worldly speaking, children love halloween, it is the only day of the year they can receive an abundantance of candy, so could you try to make it healthy for them, at least care for their health if you cannot care for their salvation.
It is funny, they foam at the mouth about the Sabbath, but they get all warm and fuzzy about Halloween, Ea(ish)ter, and Christmas.1) Dress up as demons.
2) Paint eggs, and tell stories about magical bunnies.
3) Little Fat men in red suits, with elves as helpers.But spit on:
1) Gods Sabbath.
Who is they, I don't keep any of the Pagan Holy Days either. So please be careful whom you accuse of wrong doing in your eyes. You might be taking to Angels. Not that I consider myself an Angel I always say with a D in front. That's a German thing.
Irene
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