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Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:16) “Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. . . . ‘Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing.’” (2 Cor. 6:14, 17)
There will be scads of believers at my Halloween party!And I will not serve any unclean thing – trust me!
Quote I've read some really neat things about Celtic farmer's and a country way of life surrounding the Halloween holiday. It has nothing to do with spiritualism and everything to do with daily survival. Yes, it is true that this time of the year has always had it's autumn harvest type festivals. And, of course, those things get mingled in with the other things and holiday changes over time.
They used to be turnips. Now they use pumkins. (Because american's like pumkins.) And their is nothing wrong with certain things that “surround” the halloween holiday. There's nothing wrong with farmers. There is nothing wrong with pumkins. There is nothing wrong with fun. There is nothing wrong with bon fires.There is something wrong with adopting and mimmicking ancient pagan idol religious beliefs. True, back then, they were “bone” fires and back then, they wore animal heads on their heads and went around to peoples houses asking for money (instead of candy) for an offering. And if it wasn't given, a trick (to put it very nicely) was played on that individual. This all had to do with that night, when the dead were supposed to be closer to our world. Of course, the dead are dead, and this is part of a false religious belief.
Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:27) Quote I've read some really neat things about Celtic farmer's and a country way of life surrounding the Halloween holiday. It has nothing to do with spiritualism and everything to do with daily survival. Yes, it is true that this time of the year has always had it's autumn harvest type festivals. And, of course, those things get mingled in with the other things and holiday changes over time.
They used to be turnips. Now they use pumkins. (Because american's like pumkins.) And their is nothing wrong with certain things that “surround” the halloween holiday. There's nothing wrong with farmers. There is nothing wrong with pumkins. There is nothing wrong with fun. There is nothing wrong with bon fires.There is something wrong with adopting and mimmicking ancient pagan idol religious beliefs. True, back then, they were “bone” fires and back then, they wore animal heads on their heads and went around to peoples houses asking for money (instead of candy) for an offering. And if it wasn't given, a trick (to put it very nicely) was played on that individual. This all had to do with that night, when the dead were supposed to be closer to our world. Of course, the dead are dead, and this is part of a false religious belief.
And so your point is?Because the Celtics put animal heads on and asked for money and played tricks on those who didn't give (by the way I've read this account differently but who cares) that this is a night for demons to run around? I don't get it. That's quite a leap, if you ask me. If you want to preach original origins than look at what you just shared. Pretty harmless if you ask me.
Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,19:23) Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:16) “Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. . . . ‘Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing.’” (2 Cor. 6:14, 17)
There will be scads of believers at my Halloween party!And I will not serve any unclean thing – trust me!
Yes, but that scripture was about becoming yoked with “unbelievers.”Does it make sense to become friends with those who want nothing to do with God?
How would God feel if you were good friends with people who could care less about him?
Does not the Bible say: “Bad association spoils useful conduct”?
And have you noticed that Halloween is basically a licence for people to do whatever they feel like doing? Do you think the police take that night off? Is the fruitage of this holiday good or bad? And what does that mean?
Quote Because the Celtics put animal heads on and asked for money and played tricks on those who didn't give (by the way I've read this account differently but who cares) that this is a night for demons to run around? I don't get it. I have a question for you Mandy.
Why do you think the traditional costumes for Halloween are:
Demons,
Ghosts,
Ghouls,
Trolls,
Witches,
Zombies,
etc?Yes, today, Halloween is the second biggest commercial event on the planet and so, commercialism has shoved a great variety of costumes down our throats.
Where do you think those traditional costume ideas came from?
Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:36) Quote Because the Celtics put animal heads on and asked for money and played tricks on those who didn't give (by the way I've read this account differently but who cares) that this is a night for demons to run around? I don't get it. I have a question for you Mandy.
Why do you think the traditional costumes for Halloween are:
Demons,
Ghosts,
Ghouls,
Trolls,
Witches,
Zombies,
etc?Yes, today, Halloween is the second biggest commercial event on the planet and so, commercialism has shoved a great variety of costumes down our throats.
Where do you think those traditional costume ideas came from?
Those which you have listed are not “traditional” costumes. If you want to go back to the precious origins you will find that no one dressed as a witch.And you are correct in saying our society has driven much of what costume display.
One year I saw over a dozen Buzz Lightyear's because of the movie, Toy Story. A few years ago every little boy was Harry Potter because a movie had been released.
Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:32) Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,19:23) Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:16) “Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. . . . ‘Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing.’” (2 Cor. 6:14, 17)
There will be scads of believers at my Halloween party!And I will not serve any unclean thing – trust me!
Yes, but that scripture was about becoming yoked with “unbelievers.”Does it make sense to become friends with those who want nothing to do with God?
How would God feel if you were good friends with people who could care less about him?
Does not the Bible say: “Bad association spoils useful conduct”?
And have you noticed that Halloween is basically a licence for people to do whatever they feel like doing? Do you think the police take that night off? Is the fruitage of this holiday good or bad? And what does that mean?
I don't typically make friends with those who want nothing to do with God.I reach out to those who don't know God, true.
And Halloween is no different than any other holiday when it comes to causing trouble/drinking/murders. There are a lot of suicides on Thanksgiving. Hmmmm. Maybe we should not celebrate Thanksgiving…..
Quote Because the Celtics put animal heads on and asked for money and played tricks on those who didn't give (by the way I've read this account differently but who cares) that this is a night for demons to run around? I don't get it. That's quite a leap, if you ask me. If you want to preach original origins than look at what you just shared. Pretty harmless if you ask me. I watered it down greatly, because children might be reading this.
Quote Those which you have listed are not “traditional” costumes. If you want to go back to the precious origins you will find that no one dressed as a witch. True, throw the “witch” out. But, the others?
Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:42) Quote Because the Celtics put animal heads on and asked for money and played tricks on those who didn't give (by the way I've read this account differently but who cares) that this is a night for demons to run around? I don't get it. That's quite a leap, if you ask me. If you want to preach original origins than look at what you just shared. Pretty harmless if you ask me. I watered it down greatly, because children might be reading this.
There are many versions of the “original” orgins and stories of Halloween, David. Some are nasty while others are not.So, you didn't answer my question:
Quote Why do you think the traditional costumes for Halloween are: Demons,
Ghosts,
Ghouls,
Trolls,
Zombies,
etc?Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:42) Quote Those which you have listed are not “traditional” costumes. If you want to go back to the precious origins you will find that no one dressed as a witch. True, throw the “witch” out. But, the others?
They are all about the same, wouldn't you say? Can you picture an ancient Celtic farmer dressing as a Zombie? I think not.Quote And Halloween is no different than any other holiday when it comes to causing trouble/drinking/murders. There are a lot of suicides on Thanksgiving. Hmmmm. Maybe we should not celebrate Thanksgiving….. Agreed.
Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,19:39) Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:36) Quote Because the Celtics put animal heads on and asked for money and played tricks on those who didn't give (by the way I've read this account differently but who cares) that this is a night for demons to run around? I don't get it. I have a question for you Mandy.
Why do you think the traditional costumes for Halloween are:
Demons,
Ghosts,
Ghouls,
Trolls,
Witches,
Zombies,
etc?Yes, today, Halloween is the second biggest commercial event on the planet and so, commercialism has shoved a great variety of costumes down our throats.
Where do you think those traditional costume ideas came from?
Those which you have listed are not “traditional” costumes. If you want to go back to the precious origins you will find that no one dressed as a witch.And you are correct in saying our society has driven much of what costume display.
One year I saw over a dozen Buzz Lightyear's because of the movie, Toy Story. A few years ago every little boy was Harry Potter because a movie had been released.
I did answer your question. It's here.Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:45) Mandy, Why do you think those traditional costumes for Halloween are so dark? Any thoughts?
Again, I've already given you my ideas that society has driven them. Movies, music, plays, books…they are all to blame for corrupting a perfectly good farmer story!
Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:44) Quote And Halloween is no different than any other holiday when it comes to causing trouble/drinking/murders. There are a lot of suicides on Thanksgiving. Hmmmm. Maybe we should not celebrate Thanksgiving….. Agreed.
Wait! Are you serious? You don't celebrate Thansgiving either?Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,19:43) Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:42) Quote Because the Celtics put animal heads on and asked for money and played tricks on those who didn't give (by the way I've read this account differently but who cares) that this is a night for demons to run around? I don't get it. That's quite a leap, if you ask me. If you want to preach original origins than look at what you just shared. Pretty harmless if you ask me. I watered it down greatly, because children might be reading this.
There are many versions of the “original” orgins and stories of Halloween, David. Some are nasty while others are not.
Well, here's one of those nasty ones. It's quite entertaining. In fact, it would make a great halloween story.It is the last night of October. by the light of the moon, a small group of costumed figures move from house to house, stating their demands with dire threats. there are grimacing pumpkin heads glowing with burning candles made from human fat. Other doors drip with blood. It is the night of Samhain, Celtic Lord of the dead.
Perhaps, in no other “Christianized” celebration does Satan so blatantly honor himself and memorialize his war dead. The writer J. Garnier suggest that celebration of suffering and death can be traced back to the ancient destruction of all his human followers as well as the hybrid sons of fallen angels, at the time of the flood. Cultures the world over have festivals for the dead, “holidays held by all or about the the very day on which according to the Mosaic account the Deluge took place on or about, Viz, the seventeenth day of the second month-the month nearly corresponding with November. {the Worship of the Dead by J. Garnier.}
The Druids were no exception. On October thirty one, Samhain, was said to release the spirits of the dead to mingle with the living. Druids roamed the street with lanterns, and on coming to a house they demanded money as an offering to Satan.
Halloween is a major satanic ritual day, it's a religious holiday, for the underworld, with satanists performing sacrifices and witches quietly celebrating with prayer circles or meals for the dead,' according to a USA Today article. It quoted Washington with Bryan Jordan as saying”{Christians} don't realize it, they are celebrating our holiday with us. We like it.”
Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,19:48) Quote (david @ Oct. 16 2009,19:44) Quote And Halloween is no different than any other holiday when it comes to causing trouble/drinking/murders. There are a lot of suicides on Thanksgiving. Hmmmm. Maybe we should not celebrate Thanksgiving….. Agreed.
Wait! Are you serious? You don't celebrate Thansgiving either?
Shouldn't we give thanks…..every day?As you say, picking one day, where you're going to have a high number of suicides for some reason….? Why do those people have to die?
Is Thanking God every day odd?
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