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  • #326950
    Devolution
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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,15:06)

    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 07 2013,14:20)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,12:14)
    Hi Journey,
    Jesus also said:


    Hi Ed

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    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
    and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.  
    Do you agree that this was fulfilled on “Pentecost” – yes or no?

    No, not the verse you quoted.  Look at what Christ is saying
    “If a man love me he will keep my words….and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”

    This also applies also to you and me Ed.  It is speaking to all of us, of all generations. We were not there at Pentecost, so his words are being fulfilled for us everyday, as we experience it…. even 2013 years later, not just then. This is a general simple rule.  


    Hi Journey42,

    So your answer is really “Yes” and ongoing then, right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,

    The 2nd coming has not happened yet.
    Stop linking Pentacost with the 2nd coming.
    Stop promoting strange doctrines.

    What?
    Should we now say Christ's 3rd coming instead?
    Coz according to your take on things, that is what it would be.

    What next?
    The 4th coming…the 5th??

    This is not good.

    #326951
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,18:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 07 2013,15:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2013,10:59)

    Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 07 2013,05:22)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2013,04:58)
    all

    truth is like a puzzle ,how more pieces you have in place how more of the picture you see,

    but in no way ,by looking at the mixed pieces you can see any sense of the picture ,,

    this is how we know who is seeing with truth and the ones who do not ,

    so the question we should ask ourself is DO WE HAVE TAKEN IN ACCOUNT ALL OF THE RELATED SCRIPTURES ???If not what we think to be true may in deed be false ,


    Pierre,

    Do you believe Christ returns soon?


    j42

    how soon ???what do you mean “soon ” is ???


    T.
    Why dont you defend your self.

    How can the 144000 be the first fruits.
    When the coming resurrection is the second resurrection?
    For you agreed with 2Besee.

    wakeup.


    Greetings Wakeup,

    Great point.

    It seems Ed, Pierre & 2besee have been seduced by those worldly doctrines concerning the kingdom which are doing the rounds once again.

    They don't realise that their doctrines started in Alexandria in around the 3rd century AD & was greatly condemned even back then!!

    ALEXANDRIA for crying out loud!!

    If it wasn't for the CATHOLICS adopting Amillennialism, we probably would never had heard this greatly condemned apostasy again…

    You guys have swallowed a CATHOLIC adopted doctrine Ed, Terra & 2besee!!

    You know, that church that killed the true Christians & worships idols & rapes little boys & calls their leader “Father” & hoards untold riches & has freemasons amongst their ranks & whose priests on the whole dont even believe in God etc etc etc etc…

    That is through whom this doctrine was preserved all this time…
    And “lately” the PENTACOSTALS & THE LUTHERANS have also taken on board this apostasy too.

    Mainstream religion!!
    Tossed by every “trendy” doctrine the tide brings in.
    And people still fall for it every time!!

    Shame.


    Actually you are wrong, YOUR DOCTRINE IS TAKING OVER, check it out.

    All of the mainstream churches are taking your view now.

    I have already told you that I believed what I believe in BEFORE I found out that there was a name for it.

    If i have my “doctrines” wrong then – maybe I have “fitted what I know” in wrong.

    Perhaps the ADVENTISTS have it correct.
    The thousand years is in Heaven while the Earth is laid waste.

    See, I don't pretend to know it all, I don't get STUCK in EVERYTHING.

    I take what I DO know, and I learn as I go.

    That is called humility.

    #326952
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,01:49)

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,19:25)


    Hi 2besee,

    Quote
    YOU three believe that the dead will be raised as Spirits, not flesh….

    Is that correct?

    The resurrected (the saved) will be resurrected as spirit creatures just like the angels are…yes.
    All others stay flesh over the 1000 year reign.
    After the kingdom gets handed back to the Father all flesh will end.

    Quote
    So you are having difficulty understanding my view, and others views.

    We are saying that your views are causing you to mix prophecies that should not be mixed into one big distortion.

    Quote
    Do you believe that Jesus was raised from the dead as a Spirit only or flesh?

    2besee, spirit can alter into flesh at will.

    Jesus changed His physical appearance at will so those disciples did not even recognise Him on the road to Galilee.

    Mark 16:12 >After that, He appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.

    Can flesh do that?
    Can you will your appearance to change?

    Flesh & blood can not inherit immortality only spirit can.
    So if Jesus were flesh, He would not be immortal.
    Not only that, if He were flesh still, then He would be lesser than the angels, for as Hebrews states, spirit is greater than flesh.
    You are demoting The Lord to a mere man.

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    For the record, I believe that Jesus was raised as flesh in a new Body. As so it will be for all of the resurrected.

    If He were raised in a new flesh body as you believe, then why did He have holes in His hands & an open wound in His side when appearing to the Apostles?

    Quote
    That is what Scripture says.

    Here is what scripture says 2besee:

    John 4:24>God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    God…is…a….SPIRIT.
    Not flesh, but a Spirit.

    Cheers.


    You say that Jesus was not raised in the flesh, This is what Jesus said:

    “SEE MY HANDS AND MY FEET, THAT IT IS I MYSELF. TOUCH ME, AND SEE.
    FOR A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES AS YOU SEE THAT I HAVE

    I have nothing further to say.

    #326956
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,16:33)
    Ed,

    The 2nd coming has not happened yet.
    Stop linking Pentacost with the 2nd coming.

    This is not good.


    Hi Devolution,

    You saying it don't make it true.
    I have provided you with Scripture.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #326963
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Devolution,

    God's kingdom is “Spiritual”, not physical – this is where you get hung-up.
    Jesus said my Kingdom is not of this world (meaning not physical).

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #326964
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 07 2013,16:47)

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,01:49)

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,19:25)


    Hi 2besee,

    Quote
    YOU three believe that the dead will be raised as Spirits, not flesh….

    Is that correct?

    The resurrected (the saved) will be resurrected as spirit creatures just like the angels are…yes.
    All others stay flesh over the 1000 year reign.
    After the kingdom gets handed back to the Father all flesh will end.

    Quote
    So you are having difficulty understanding my view, and others views.

    We are saying that your views are causing you to mix prophecies that should not be mixed into one big distortion.

    Quote
    Do you believe that Jesus was raised from the dead as a Spirit only or flesh?

    2besee, spirit can alter into flesh at will.

    Jesus changed His physical appearance at will so those disciples did not even recognise Him on the road to Galilee.

    Mark 16:12 >After that, He appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.

    Can flesh do that?
    Can you will your appearance to change?

    Flesh & blood can not inherit immortality only spirit can.
    So if Jesus were flesh, He would not be immortal.
    Not only that, if He were flesh still, then He would be lesser than the angels, for as Hebrews states, spirit is greater than flesh.
    You are demoting The Lord to a mere man.

    Quote
    For the record, I believe that Jesus was raised as flesh in a new Body. As so it will be for all of the resurrected.

    If He were raised in a new flesh body as you believe, then why did He have holes in His hands & an open wound in His side when appearing to the Apostles?

    Quote
    That is what Scripture says.

    Here is what scripture says 2besee:

    John 4:24>God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    God…is…a….SPIRIT.
    Not flesh, but a Spirit.

    Cheers.


    You say that Jesus was not raised in the flesh, This is what Jesus said:

    “SEE MY HANDS AND MY FEET, THAT IT IS I MYSELF. TOUCH ME, AND SEE.
    FOR A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES AS YOU SEE THAT I HAVE

    I have nothing further to say.


    2besee,

    “Flesh & blood can NOT inherit the kingdom of God”

    “God is A Spirit”

    This is what scripture declares.

    Therefore, one has to discern the reasons why Jesus showed Himself as flesh, because as the above states, God is A SPIRIT.
    There is NO getting around it.

    Jesus showed Himself as flesh so the Apostles would not think He were some ghost or evil spirit.
    Cast your thoughts back to when He walked on water…what happened when those Apostles saw Him?
    They were PETRIFIED because they thought He was a ghost!!
    PETRIFIED!!

    Ghosts are by folklore, spirits of the DEAD.
    And in those days, SUPERSTITION was EVERYWHERE.
    Jesus showed Himself WITH His wounds & in the flesh so the Apostles knew without doubt that it WAS Jesus they were seeing & no ghost or evil spirit imitating Him.

    Also, & most importantly, IF Jesus showed Himself in His true Spirit form and those gathered SAW HIS FACE….what do you think would have happened to those gathered?

    Remember the examples in the Old Testament?

    Something for you to at least consider.

    Cheers.

    #326965
    Ed J
    Participant

    Rom.8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
    if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.

    #326966
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,17:44)
    Hi Devolution,

    God's kingdom is “Spiritual”, not physical – this is where you get hung-up.
    Jesus said my Kingdom is not of this world (meaning not physical).

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,

    YES ED….God's kingdom IS spiritual…

    We never said otherwise!!
    God's HEAVENLY KINGDOM is SPIRITUAL in nature.
    Of course we know that!!

    What we said is that the kingdom Jesus reigns over during the millennium is the PHYSICAL kingdom here ON EARTH…NOT the heavenly one!!
    The PHYSICAL kingdom that gets RESTORED.

    And within that PHYSICAL kingdom, resurrected SPIRIT saints will be working to teach the FLESH Jews DWELLING in that kingdom…and THEN those flesh Jews teach the SURVIVORS who LIVE OUTSIDE the PHYSICAL kingdom area.

    Notice the word RESTORED?
    Tell me, did Gods SPIRIT kingdom need RESTORING?
    Was it in RUINS.
    Did it FALL DOWN?
    Did David LIVE there too SITTING on his throne?
    But David wasn't a Christian!
    And he certainly was no spirit.
    And his throne certainly wasn't in heaven!

    So those RUINS in Israel WILL be RESTORED…
    PHYSICALLY restored as they WERE AT THE FIRST as it says:THOSE RUINS WHERE David SAT ON HIS THRONE.
    Jesus never SAT on THAT throne…or on ANY throne when He first came!
    Jesus came as a SERVANT…
    But His return will be as a KING!
    And THEN He WILL sit on THAT throne.

    Tell me, when ALL heathen are told to go to the kingdom every year to worship the KING and to keep the feast of tabernacles…
    IF there is no PHYSICAL kingdom, how do they ENTER the kingdom to honor Jesus?
    Because flesh & blood can NOT enter the SPIRIT kingdom now can they!
    So WHAT other kingdom option would be left?
    Only ONE…
    PHYSICAL kingdom is what.

    #326968
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,19:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,17:44)
    Hi Devolution,

    God's kingdom is “Spiritual”, not physical – this is where you get hung-up.
    Jesus said my Kingdom is not of this world (meaning not physical).

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,

    YES ED….God's kingdom IS spiritual…

    We never said otherwise!!
    God's HEAVENLY KINGDOM is SPIRITUAL in nature.
    Of course we know that!!

    What we said is that the kingdom Jesus reigns over during the millennium is the PHYSICAL kingdom here ON EARTH…NOT the heavenly one!!
    The PHYSICAL kingdom that gets RESTORED.

    And within that PHYSICAL kingdom, resurrected SPIRIT saints will be working to teach the FLESH Jews DWELLING in that kingdom…and THEN those flesh Jews teach the SURVIVORS who LIVE OUTSIDE the PHYSICAL kingdom area.


    No physical Kingdom

    #326970
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,19:19)
    But His return will be as a KING!


    Hi Devolution,
     
                            No physical king

    John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by
    force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.
    Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #326973
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Devolution,

    Since you can't wrap you mind around this,
    you proclaim God's Kingdom to be in the future.

          Jesus(74)  =  The King(74)  =  Beauty(74)

    Isaiah 33:17 Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty:
    they shall behold the land that is very far off (in the future).

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #326975
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,18:53)
    Rom.8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
    if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.


    No Ed, you are ABUSING the scriptures to fit YOUR doctrine.

    That is NOT what Romans is saying.

    Why don't you try reading the WHOLE message that leads up to that quote & the scriptures AFTER that quote?

    It is telling us HUMANS to WALK in the SPIRITUAL WAY of living and not the CARNAL way of living which does not acknowledge Christ or His Father.

    Note:

    Romans 8:1 >There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who WALK not AFTER the FLESH, but AFTER the SPIRIT.

    So these LIVE their lives OBEYING Christ's SPIRITUAL LAW, & no longer WALK by their own rules & desires of the FLESH, but instead, by Christ's  instructions to LIVE a SPIRITUAL LIFE.

    Romans 8:2 >For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    So the LAW of the SPIRIT OF LIFE FROM Christ is to be FOLLOWED.
    It is a SPIRITUAL LAW…a way of LIFE that LEADS to eternal LIFE.
    LEADS TO means a WAY TO GET THERE…it is NOT yet THERE, but instead LEADS THERE.
    You do know the difference between LEADING someone somewhere opposed to actually GETTING THERE don't you?

    COME ON Ed, must I explain EVERY SINGLE VERSE FOR YOU before you UNDERSTAND?

    >>SKIP<<

    Romans 8:5 >For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    Look at verse 1 AGAIN…
    WALK AFTER the flesh…WALK AFTER the Spirit.
    Other words, HOW we live our lives right…

    So they that are AFTER the flesh in 8:5 above, means…as verse 1 showed us:
    They who WALK (live their lives)…AFTER (according to)…the flesh (no thought towards God)… do MIND (concentrate on)…the flesh.
    SIMPLE!
    And they that WALK (live their lives)…AFTER (according to)…the Spirit (Christ's LAW)…MIND (concentrate on)…the Spirit.
    SIMPLE!

    Romans 8:6 >For to be CARNALLY MINDED is death, but to be SPIRITUALLY MINDED is LIFE and PEACE.

    Notice that Ed?
    What is it saying huh?
    It speaks about our STATE OF MIND…
    SPIRITUALLY MINDED or CARNALLY MINDED.

    IF we are spiritually minded, then we WALK in the SPIRIT.
    We are WALKING IN the Spirit by obeying Christ's LAW & no longer WALKING IN the FLESH anymore.

    That is what is meant by we are IN the Spirit.
    It's NOT saying we ARE Spirit, but we WALK our lives being SPIRITUALLY MINDED.

    So when we read “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
    if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you” we understand it means to live our lives MINDFUL of Christ's law….His LAW being everything…and we must LIVE this life OBEYING that SPIRITUAL CALLING & NOT the CARNAL CALLING.

    I really can't be bothered going into detail with you ATM, but look at how the conversation CONTINUES…

    Romans 8:14 >For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

    LED by the Spirit Ed…one is NOT THERE YET when one is being LED in this CONTEXT…
    You do understand that concept right?
    If I come to your house & say, let me lead you to your house, you'd think me mad…
    But if we're out bush somewhere you're not familiar with & I tell you I'm going to lead you home, you'd be grateful.
    But I don't stop HALFWAY to your house and say, “here you go, you're home now” do I!!
    That would mean I haven't LED you home after all now wouldn't it.
    Understand?

    Ed, we are at this very moment in time promised ADOPTION and AWAIT that ADOPTION to be BORN into a new creature.

    Look at what you obviously have missed that Romans ch8 was leading to…

    Romans 8:22 >For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

    Romans 8:23 >And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

    So even though they are WALKING in the Spirit….
    They are still WAITING for something they GROAN for…
    THE REDEMPTION of their BODIES!!
    That's to be BORN AGAIN they are waiting for buddy!!
    To FINALLY BECOME SPIRIT CREATURES.

    Because WE are creatures BOUND in corrupt bodies, the Holy Spirit Christ has given us is BOUND in a CORRUPT BODY Ed.
    CORRUPT BODY Ed…
    Our SPIRITS are TRAPPED in these bodies Ed.

    Behold:

    Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    Romans 8:18 >For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

    Romans 8:19 >For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

    Romans 8:20 >For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

    Romans 8:21 >Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    Romans 8:22 >For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

    Romans 8:23 >And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

    So you see Ed, we are NOT Spirit YET…we merely WALK IN the SPIRIT…AWAITING the REDEMPTION of OUR BODIES.

    Understand yet?

    #326976
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,19:50)

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,19:19)
    But His return will be as a KING!


    Hi Devolution,
     
                            No physical king

    John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by
    force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.
    Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    How many times do we have to confirm this?

    SPIRIT can show itself as FLESH at will.

    The angles in Sodom…angels are SPIRIT…but these made themselves FLESH otherwise no man could have seen them.

    Hebrews 13:2 >Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

    Who knows if any of us have entertained angels unawares…IF they didn't appear as flesh we WOULD know now wouldn't we!!

    So too Jesus…

    Jesus is a SPIRIT…and He can appear as FLESH anytime He so pleases.

    What? The word can create galaxies, planets, life…but is unable to change into mere flesh!

    So will be the kingdom, Jesus appears as flesh when NEEDED and back to SPIRIT when needed.
    Is this too hard for our Lord?

    #326977
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,19:58)
    Hi Devolution,

    Since you can't wrap you mind around this,
    you proclaim God's Kingdom to be in the future.

          Jesus(74)  =  The King(74)  =  Beauty(74)

    Isaiah 33:17 Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty:
    they shall behold the land that is very far off (in the future).

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed you make me laugh.

    Yet another prophecy you have no clue about.

    LOOK:

    Isaiah 33:10 >Now will I rise, saith The Lord, now will I be exalted, now I will lift up Myself.

    Hello!!
    2nd coming!!

    Verses 11 & 12 speak of the sinners & what's going to happen to them at the 2nd coming.

    Verse 13 God is saying acknowledge Him.

    Verse 14 speaks of those hypocrites in Zion being afraid of His 2nd coming…IN Zion…PHYSICAL Zion as mentioned many times in the Old Testament …there is a physical Zion & a spiritual Zion.
    Obviously the Spiritual Zion has NO sinners within it…but the physical Zion does…the very one Christ cleans out at His coming.

    Verses 15 to 16 tells us what manner of person gets to dwell with Christ.

    VERSE 17 is addressing THOSE mentioned ABOVE Ed!!

    THEY get to SEE The Lord in His BEAUTY…FACE TO FACE…SEE HIM AS HE IS…THEM Ed…
    And the land they behold that is VERY FAR OFF is the NEW EARTH that WILL be created AFTER the 1000 years reign.

    I'm not interested in your numerology either, whatever name you give it, it is just numerology in disguise…

    And that is of the OCCULT.
    No wonder you are so confused with the scriptures.
    Come back to your first love and leave that foolishness behind Ed.
    You are running out of time brother.
    The clock is ticking.

    #326987
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,20:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,18:53)
    Rom.8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
    if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.


    No Ed, you are ABUSING the scriptures to fit YOUR doctrine.

    That is NOT what Romans is saying.


    Rom.8:9 isn't saying what it is saying? ???

    #326988
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,23:16)
    Ed.
    You are running out of time brother.
    The clock is ticking.


    Hi Devolution,

    Not to fear, I will be getting a new husk upgrade when this old one falls apart.  :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #326989
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,23:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,19:58)
    Hi Devolution,

    Since you can't wrap you mind around this,
    you proclaim God's Kingdom to be in the future.

          Jesus(74)  =  The King(74)  =  Beauty(74)

    Isaiah 33:17 Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty:
    they shall behold the land that is very far off (in the future).

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed you make me laugh.

    Yet another prophecy you have no clue about.


    Yet another verses that doesn't mean what it says? ???

    #326990
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,23:16)
    Ed

    I'm not interested in your numerology either, whatever name you give it, it is just numerology in disguise…


    Hi Devolution,

    Sorry, but is was YHVH who had “Jesus” encoded as “Beauty”;  NOT ME!

                                    Jesus(74)  =   Beauty(74)

    10: And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
    11: And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
    12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.

    13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty
    pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
    . (Zech.11:10-13) (see Matthew 27:3-10)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #326992
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,02:07)

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,23:16)
    Ed

    I'm not interested in your numerology either, whatever name you give it, it is just numerology in disguise…


    Hi Devolution,

    Sorry, but is was YHVH who had “Jesus” encoded as “Beauty”;  NOT ME!

                                    Jesus(74)  =   Beauty(74)

    10: And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
    11: And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
    12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.

    13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty
    pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
    . (Zech.11:10-13) (see Matthew 27:3-10)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Do you not agree that Zech.11:10-13 is about Jesus?

    #326997
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,01:54)

    Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,20:43)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,18:53)
    Rom.8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
    if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.


    No Ed, you are ABUSING the scriptures to fit YOUR doctrine.

    That is NOT what Romans is saying.


    Rom.8:9 isn't saying what it is saying?  ???


    EdJ.

    Roman 8:9 is exactly saying what it is saying.
    You are not in the flesh but in the spirit,if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you.

    THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN THE FLESH (US,humans).

    THE SPIRIT DWELLING IN THE FLESH; NOT DWELLING INT THE SPIRIT.

    THE FLESH FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

    WE ARE STILL FLESH.

    wakeup.

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