Gog Magog

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2013,05:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,15:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2013,10:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,19:11) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,23:30) Hi Wakeup, It is symbolic language. The land refers to the land of corruption. Jer 23:10 For the land is full of adulterers; for because of swearing the land mourneth; the pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up, and their course is evil, and their force is not right. And their king leviathan (the serpent out of the deep) as mentioned in Job 41:34. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. That does not compute: Gog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. He is the chief prince,he is not symbolic. And why the name Gog? Strange name for a prince. And why,Meshech and Tubal,Gomer,Togarmah. There are no countries by those names. Can you or anyone tell me? wakeup. wup Revelation does not talk about all your names only GOG of Magog Terra. Go read Ez. 38. wakeup. wup this as been done in 70 AD please read more carefully what did in reality happen during the 4 years prior and the 10 years after 70 AD, this is all on the internet but in different places ,you have to do a little work Terra. Did youread Ez.38? Ezekiel 38:8   After *many* days thou shalt be *visited*(GOG VISITED IN PRISON AND LET LOOSE): in the *LATTER YEARS* thou shalt come into the land that is *BROUGHT BACK* from the sword, and is gathered out of *many* people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: *but* it is brought forth out of *the nations*, AND THEY SHALL *DWELL SAFELY* ALL OF THEM.  Ezekiel 38:9   Thou *SHALT* ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.  Ezekiel 38:10   Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:  Ezekiel 38:11   And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of UNWALLED VILLAGES; I will go to them THAT ARE AT *REST*, THAT DWELL SEFELY, ALL OF THEM DWELLING WITHOUT WALLS, and having neither bars nor gates, THEY WERE A PEOPLE AT REST: THE 1000YR REST. THEY DWELL SAFELY ALL OF THEM WITHOUT WALLS. This can not be after 70 ad. Israel has never been at rest.It is a land that has been brought back from the sword,in LATTER YEARS IT WILL BE. A PEOPLE BROUGHT OUT OF MANY NATIONS. THE JEWS LIVING IN MANY COUNTRIES,WILL BE BROUGHT BACK. THIS KINGDOM WILL CONSIST JEWS ONLY. wakeup.

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[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2013,09:22)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 21 2013,02:14) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2013,05:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 20 2013,15:08) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2013,10:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 19 2013,19:11) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2013,23:30) Hi Wakeup, It is symbolic language. The land refers to the land of corruption. Jer 23:10 For the land is full of adulterers; for because of swearing the land mourneth; the pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up, and their course is evil, and their force is not right. And their king leviathan (the serpent out of the deep) as mentioned in Job 41:34. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. That does not compute: Gog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. He is the chief prince,he is not symbolic. And why the name Gog? Strange name for a prince. And why,Meshech and Tubal,Gomer,Togarmah. There are no countries by those names. Can you or anyone tell me? wakeup. wup Revelation does not talk about all your names only GOG of Magog Terra. Go read Ez. 38. wakeup. wup this as been done in 70 AD please read more carefully what did in reality happen during the 4 years prior and the 10 years after 70 AD, this is all on the internet but in different places ,you have to do a little work Terra. Did youread Ez.38? Ezekiel 38:8   After *many* days thou shalt be *visited*(GOG VISITED IN PRISON AND LET LOOSE): in the *LATTER YEARS* thou shalt come into the land that is *BROUGHT BACK* from the sword, and is gathered out of *many* people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: *but* it is brought forth out of *the nations*, AND THEY SHALL *DWELL SAFELY* ALL OF THEM.  Ezekiel 38:9   Thou *SHALT* ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.  Ezekiel 38:10   Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:  Ezekiel 38:11   And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of UNWALLED VILLAGES; I will go to them THAT ARE AT *REST*, THAT DWELL SEFELY, ALL OF THEM DWELLING WITHOUT WALLS, and having neither bars nor gates, THEY WERE A PEOPLE AT REST: THE 1000YR REST. THEY DWELL SAFELY ALL OF THEM WITHOUT WALLS. This can not be after 70 ad. Israel has never been at rest.It is a land that has been brought back from the sword,in LATTER YEARS IT WILL BE. A PEOPLE BROUGHT OUT OF MANY NATIONS. THE JEWS LIVING IN MANY COUNTRIES,WILL BE BROUGHT BACK. THIS KINGDOM WILL CONSIST JEWS ONLY. wakeup. this start to look a duplicate of another topic

Terra.

If you can not see and understand that,then there is something wrong with your spirit.

Or is it maybe that you dont want to see?

wakeup.

[journey42]

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Quote (2besee @ Jan. 17 2013,12:48) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 16 2013,22:25) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 16 2013,19:09) Quote Wakeup, Journey and Devo, read your posts, thanks. tell me, how long have you been studying (together) for? Hi 2Besse Sorry about the SDA thing.  I'll take your word for it. How long have we been studying together? Well Wakeup first, he's the oldest (sorry wakeup!) and has been studying for 40 odd years.  He was a staunch aetheist, but then God put him through the mill to open his eyes.  He was first shown the bible by a relative (aunty i think) and she was JW.  He started to read that bible but didn't go to their church.  He read on his own ever since.  He doesn't agree with the JW teachings. Myself, I started to study with Wakeup (my uncle) when I was  nearly 13.  I am nearly 44 now.  He told me the basics, gave me a bible, and I asked him questions for 8 solid weeks on the weekends.  I didn't know a single thing, so all was new to me.  I didn't see him much for a few years, but when I had questions, I wrote them all down and went to visit him when I got my drivers licence.  I have been in touch with him since then, not on a regular basis, but here and there as much as I can.  More now than ever.  I read for myself, and there were alot of things I couldn't understand.  He has a lot of patience with me, and a good teacher.  My questions have also stirred his mind even further, and got him thinking on other things he didn't realise, so he searches and searches the scriptures for the answer, and doesn't rest until he finds it.  So that's how we learn.  Theres always a challenge.  I have never met anyone more dedicated to the Word of God, without all the hype, and able to understand the scriptures and bring up the topics he does.  He takes no credit whatsoever, but gets excited when someone is eager to learn.  He is a loner, and on his own, and very content.  I know you all don't like him much because you think he is a know it all, but I can vouch, a true man of God, and if you all ever got to meet him, to know him for yourselves, you would be red faced.  I mean this with God as my witness.  I am so blessed to know him. As for Devo, he's always read for a long time, but started to come to Wakeups with me on a weekly basis for about 5 years.  He reads on his own, and brings up some interesting finds.  If he is wrong about something, and shown, he always accepts his error. It may take him sometimes a few hours of discussing, debating, and proof, but in the end, he shows that he loves the truth more than his pride. I like that about him. He has sleepless nights over the scriptures if he can't understand something.  It eats at him.  He always finds in the end what he is searching for.  He is a true man of God, and I've seen him give up many worldly things and go through spiritual struggles and battles, by denying his flesh, and overcoming temptation.  He knows the scriptures like the back of his hand, and takes them very seriously.  We have always held each other up, and blunt with each other.  He gets on well with me because I don't sugar coat things, and he's the same. So at the end of it all, we all read the bible for ourselves.  Not just once, but over and over and over.  Not in order either. We agree on things, and if we disagree, we debate, we refute, we challenge, and always present our scriptures, because this is the final authority, and knowing the plan of God from beginning to end is also a bonus.  Everything must fit, and nothing can contradict.  Not everything is straightforward in the bible, and God has made it that way on purpose and hidden his gems in his words, so that only the true seekers can find them.  If one's heart is not right, or he is feeding on another flesh, then God will hide the truth from him, and not only that, whatever measure we give, will be given to us.  So if we only search “a little bit” he will only reveal “a little bit” to us, but if we search with pure hunger, and keep going, then God will reveal much more.  That's what it boils down to.  Everyone a different measure according to what they put in. And one important thing we've learn't is to not teach until we are fully equipped.  Preaching the basics is ok, but the deep things of God is not to be taken lightly.  If we have the spirit of error in us, we are damned and I would hate to think of the consequences.  It is no light matter. Thank you for sharing that Journey. I also seek truth and it is the main thing that I think about. like Wakeup I also 'stick to myself'. I found peace with God and my old life is gone. I have a problem with spending too much time on the Internet and it is a bad habit that i want to break because I know that when I manage to break free totally, I will be back to the true sense of peace and spirit that God first gave me. Thanks for your story Bless you. Thanks 2Besse Yes being on the internet does take up a lot of our time.  My husband hates me on it.  He says you love that thing more than us.  I don't love the internet, I just love God more than anyone else.  I love his scriptures, I love his words, I love discussing, love people that love him,  and I love stirring up people to go deeper into the scriptures.  I would rather speak to someone in person any day. Regarding family, I think of this verse Matthew 10:37   He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Once we get our priorities right, God first, then everything falls into place.  My children are good children and they feel very loved and nurtured.  My husband is not interested in spiritual things unfortunately. But in all honesty, I think it's a good thing, this chat site, because if someone asks us a question then we have to learn how to answer.  We have to look up scriptures and search, and it keeps our noses in the Word of God.  Whilst searching we may find things we were not even looking for. The internet is just a tool for us to communicate.  We all live on different sides of the world, yet we come together in discussion on the one thing closest to our hearts.  I think that's a great thing because If I tried to talk to my neighbours they'd tell me where to go!  My relations never mention the word “God” in front of me because they don't want to hear it, but they are happy to say Christ's name in vain.  It's so sad. I'm glad that you are searching and sticking to yourself.  We are all peculiar people.  Loners.  I think God likes that about us.  I'm sorry to hear that your true sense of peace and spirit have been taken away from being on here, and I'm sorry if I've ever made you feel this way. This site will bring out the best and the worst in us.  We will be put to the maximum test.  We can also learn to exercise patience, perseverence, and above all love, no matter what.  It's not a contest of who knows the most.  You see there have been many on this site for years, saying this and that, then someone comes on and says, no you are wrong.  It doesn't go down well.  I rarely ever hear anyone say, I've never heard of that before, that's very interesting, or wow, it makes sense, or I'll look into it.  You have, and I like that about you, and Mike too.  I love humble people.  Don't loose what you've got 2Besse.  Don't make this site harden you.  God only wants to add more to you. love to you in Christ Journey.

Hi 2Besse

Can we go back here and reflect for a while?

[2besee]

Journey. I think that we should just agree to disagree I know that you and Wakeup mean well. I like you guys, really, even though I disagree with some of the things that you both say (and vice versa!)

Peace to you, Journey.

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