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- March 19, 2008 at 9:09 pm#84323kejonnParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2008,16:00) Hi KJ,
They take a bit more persuasion that their knowledge collection has been a waste of time to date.
But Paul thought it was all worth it and showed the way.
Phil3
5Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;6Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
10That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
11If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
So gaining knowledge is a waste of time? I guess we should be still in the stone age then.March 19, 2008 at 9:15 pm#84325NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
Kids do not know too much.
They do have a head start.March 19, 2008 at 10:24 pm#84331kejonnParticipantAnd? Should we stay as kids? Or maybe have our children quit school so they do not gain any more knowledge and only feed them certain passages from the bible?
March 19, 2008 at 10:25 pm#84332kejonnParticipantShould women be barefoot and pregnant as well?
March 19, 2008 at 10:37 pm#84335NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
No it is you who must downsize.March 20, 2008 at 4:45 am#84348kejonnParticipantHaha! With each post, you don't realize how much YOU degrade Christianity. You basically said that accepting Jesus is like downgrading.
March 20, 2008 at 5:21 am#84356NickHassanParticipantHi KJ,
Accepting Jesus?March 20, 2008 at 5:36 am#84359davidParticipantA great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents.
Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.
Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die?”—Ezekiel 33:11.
Anyway, it is possible for a man to be a judge and cast judgement on people and seem harsh to those who are on trial, and then for that man to go home and lovingly care for his family.
To the family, he is their loving father, provider, caregiver.
To many others, he is a judge not to be taken lightly.A man can be both. So can God.
March 20, 2008 at 5:42 am#84361kejonnParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,00:21) Hi KJ,
Accepting Jesus?
Isn't this what you are all about? I do not accept Jesus as messiah, you say I must “downsize”. Since such a word is not readily applicable to individuals, the next closest word in concept is “downgrade”.March 20, 2008 at 5:43 am#84362StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,07:40) Hi Stu,
Faith is like that.
So annoying for intellectuals.
So faith is dishonest. I think that is honest.Stuart
March 20, 2008 at 5:44 am#84364kejonnParticipantQuote (david @ Mar. 20 2008,00:36) A great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents.
Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.
Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die?”—Ezekiel 33:11.
Anyway, it is possible for a man to be a judge and cast judgement on people and seem harsh to those who are on trial, and then for that man to go home and lovingly care for his family.
To the family, he is their loving father, provider, caregiver.
To many others, he is a judge not to be taken lightly.A man can be both. So can God.
So killing innocent children who have nothing to do with the crimes of their parents is justice? Show me an earthly judge who has ever called for such for the crimes of a father/mother.March 20, 2008 at 5:52 am#84367StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,09:00) Hi KJ,
They take a bit more persuasion that their knowledge collection has been a waste of time to date.…
11If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
I think I have now lost count of the anti-human platitudes and the callous placing of the rest of humanity behind believers' personal eternal ambitions.Christianity is brutal and even if all the myths were true it would still be unethical. Where is the justice in a god that would sanction such selfishness?
Stuart
March 20, 2008 at 6:21 am#84375NickHassanParticipantQuote (kejonn @ Mar. 20 2008,17:44) Quote (david @ Mar. 20 2008,00:36) A great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents.
Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.
Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die?”—Ezekiel 33:11.
Anyway, it is possible for a man to be a judge and cast judgement on people and seem harsh to those who are on trial, and then for that man to go home and lovingly care for his family.
To the family, he is their loving father, provider, caregiver.
To many others, he is a judge not to be taken lightly.A man can be both. So can God.
So killing innocent children who have nothing to do with the crimes of their parents is justice? Show me an earthly judge who has ever called for such for the crimes of a father/mother.
Hi KJ,
SO God should conform to earthly standards?
HmmmMarch 20, 2008 at 6:52 am#84381StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,18:21) Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 20 2008,17:44) Quote (david @ Mar. 20 2008,00:36) A great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents.
Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.
Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die?”—Ezekiel 33:11.
Anyway, it is possible for a man to be a judge and cast judgement on people and seem harsh to those who are on trial, and then for that man to go home and lovingly care for his family.
To the family, he is their loving father, provider, caregiver.
To many others, he is a judge not to be taken lightly.A man can be both. So can God.
So killing innocent children who have nothing to do with the crimes of their parents is justice? Show me an earthly judge who has ever called for such for the crimes of a father/mother.
Hi KJ,
SO God should conform to earthly standards?
Hmmm
Yes. Otherwise he has no credibility. Actually I don't think the OT allows him any of that quality anyway.Stuart
March 20, 2008 at 6:54 am#84384NickHassanParticipantHi Stu,
Really?
Then your god is man?March 20, 2008 at 6:56 am#84386StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,18:54) Hi Stu,
Really?
Then your god is man?
I don't have a god. I know that is a difficult concept for you. Try, for once, thinking outside of the square that contains the square you think inside.Stuart
March 20, 2008 at 6:58 am#84388NickHassanParticipantHi Stu,
You ascribe credibility or the lack of it to the Creator God? Who are you?March 20, 2008 at 6:59 am#84390StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,18:58) Hi Stu,
You ascribe credibility or the lack of it to the Creator God? Who are you?
Would you say Voldemort has credibility?Stuart
March 20, 2008 at 7:01 am#84392NickHassanParticipantHi Stu,
Remember it was only a kid's story.
No eternal words in there but just witchcraft to entertain the world's kidsMarch 20, 2008 at 7:04 am#84394StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,19:01) Hi Stu,
Remember it was only a kid's story.
No eternal words in there but just witchcraft to entertain the world's kids
Yep, that's a pretty good description of your scripture, except children should not be allowed to read it.Stuart
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