God's portrayal  in the Old Testament

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  • #84323
    kejonn
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2008,16:00)
    Hi KJ,
    They take a bit more persuasion that their knowledge collection has been a waste of time to date.
    But Paul thought it was all worth it and showed the way.
    Phil3
    5Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

    6Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

    7But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.

    8Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

    9And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

    10That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

    11If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.


    So gaining knowledge is a waste of time? I guess we should be still in the stone age then.

    #84325
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    Kids do not know too much.
    They do have a head start.

    #84331
    kejonn
    Participant

    And? Should we stay as kids? Or maybe have our children quit school so they do not gain any more knowledge and only feed them certain passages from the bible?

    #84332
    kejonn
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    Should women be barefoot and pregnant as well?

    #84335
    NickHassan
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    Hi KJ,
    No it is you who must downsize.

    #84348
    kejonn
    Participant

    Haha! With each post, you don't realize how much YOU degrade Christianity. You basically said that accepting Jesus is like downgrading.

    #84356
    NickHassan
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    Hi KJ,
    Accepting Jesus?

    #84359
    david
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    A great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents.

    Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.

    Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die?”—Ezekiel 33:11.

    Anyway, it is possible for a man to be a judge and cast judgement on people and seem harsh to those who are on trial, and then for that man to go home and lovingly care for his family.

    To the family, he is their loving father, provider, caregiver.
    To many others, he is a judge not to be taken lightly.

    A man can be both. So can God.

    #84361
    kejonn
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,00:21)
    Hi KJ,
    Accepting Jesus?


    Isn't this what you are all about? I do not accept Jesus as messiah, you say I must “downsize”. Since such a word is not readily applicable to individuals, the next closest word in concept is “downgrade”.

    #84362
    Stu
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,07:40)
    Hi Stu,
    Faith is like that.
    So annoying for intellectuals.


    So faith is dishonest. I think that is honest.

    Stuart

    #84364
    kejonn
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Mar. 20 2008,00:36)

    A great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents.

    Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.

    Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die?”—Ezekiel 33:11.

    Anyway, it is possible for a man to be a judge and cast judgement on people and seem harsh to those who are on trial, and then for that man to go home and lovingly care for his family.

    To the family, he is their loving father, provider, caregiver.
    To many others, he is a judge not to be taken lightly.

    A man can be both. So can God.


    So killing innocent children who have nothing to do with the crimes of their parents is justice? Show me an earthly judge who has ever called for such for the crimes of a father/mother.

    #84367
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,09:00)
    Hi KJ,
    They take a bit more persuasion that their knowledge collection has been a waste of time to date.

    11If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.


    I think I have now lost count of the anti-human platitudes and the callous placing of the rest of humanity behind believers' personal eternal ambitions.

    Christianity is brutal and even if all the myths were true it would still be unethical. Where is the justice in a god that would sanction such selfishness?

    Stuart

    #84375
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 20 2008,17:44)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 20 2008,00:36)

    A great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents.

    Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.

    Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die?”—Ezekiel 33:11.

    Anyway, it is possible for a man to be a judge and cast judgement on people and seem harsh to those who are on trial, and then for that man to go home and lovingly care for his family.

    To the family, he is their loving father, provider, caregiver.
    To many others, he is a judge not to be taken lightly.

    A man can be both.  So can God.


    So killing innocent children who have nothing to do with the crimes of their parents is justice? Show me an earthly judge who has ever called for such for the crimes of a father/mother.


    Hi KJ,
    SO God should conform to earthly standards?
    Hmmm

    #84381
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,18:21)

    Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 20 2008,17:44)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 20 2008,00:36)

    A great, mighty, fear-inspiring God, yet impartial and lovingly defending the interests of orphans, widows, and alien residents.

    Firmness where necessary, mercy where possible.

    Our loving, merciful God declares: “As I am alive, . . . I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die?”—Ezekiel 33:11.

    Anyway, it is possible for a man to be a judge and cast judgement on people and seem harsh to those who are on trial, and then for that man to go home and lovingly care for his family.

    To the family, he is their loving father, provider, caregiver.
    To many others, he is a judge not to be taken lightly.

    A man can be both.  So can God.


    So killing innocent children who have nothing to do with the crimes of their parents is justice? Show me an earthly judge who has ever called for such for the crimes of a father/mother.


    Hi KJ,
    SO God should conform to earthly standards?
    Hmmm


    Yes. Otherwise he has no credibility. Actually I don't think the OT allows him any of that quality anyway.

    Stuart

    #84384
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Stu,
    Really?
    Then your god is man?

    #84386
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,18:54)
    Hi Stu,
    Really?
    Then your god is man?


    I don't have a god. I know that is a difficult concept for you. Try, for once, thinking outside of the square that contains the square you think inside.

    Stuart

    #84388
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Stu,
    You ascribe credibility or the lack of it to the Creator God? Who are you?

    #84390
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,18:58)
    Hi Stu,
    You ascribe credibility or the lack of it to the Creator God? Who are you?


    Would you say Voldemort has credibility?

    Stuart

    #84392
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Stu,
    Remember it was only a kid's story.
    No eternal words in there but just witchcraft to entertain the world's kids

    #84394
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2008,19:01)
    Hi Stu,
    Remember it was only a kid's story.
    No eternal words in there but just witchcraft to entertain the world's kids


    Yep, that's a pretty good description of your scripture, except children should not be allowed to read it.

    Stuart

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