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God’s Great Love
DEAR READER: This message is directed to you, whether you are religious or not religious, and it is a message from God’s own Word. I am not interested in giving you conclusions of my own or of any other MAN, for I know of no one whose authority is equal to the precious truths contained in God’s Word. In 1 Timothy 2:4 we read, “God will have all mankind to be saved, and come to a knowledge of the truth.” The creeds of men have changed this to read, “God WISHES all mankind to be saved.” What a shame that the religious world has left the plain Word of GOD for the theories of MAN! Turning to Eph. 1:11, we find that God is not limited to a wish, but that “He is actually operating the universe in accord with the counsel of His will,” and we surely know that neither demons nor men can defeat the One Who created the universe. I love to think, yes, to KNOW, that my God is not a weakling, TRYING to do something for man, if man will let Him, as is almost universally believed. No, my friend, the God of the Scriptures is not only able, but He IS operating the universe (the all) as HE wills. All in Love.
But, I hear some one say, “Man is a free moral agent.” This is just another theory of man. God’s Word states the very opposite. “It is not of him who is willing, nor of him who is running, but of God, the merciful” (Rom. 9:16), and, “O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself; it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps” (Jer. 10:23). This is what God says, not what some false teacher thinks, be he in the pew or pulpit. God’s Word should be final.BELIEVE GOD
What a motto, or guiding rule of life, to follow! What wonderful simplicity! BELIEVE GOD! That should not be hard for you to do, if you realize that “all is of God” — all power, all wisdom, all love. In Romans 11:36 we read that ALL is out of God, and FOR Him (2 Cor. 5:18-21 Concordant Version).
Now if you will believe the following statements of Scripture, you will evade many deceptions and snares of Satan, who has twisted the Word of God, resulting in the theories of man. Why not let the theories go and BELIEVE GOD? What did our Lord Jesus Christ say, when Satan tried to twist Scripture for Him? The reply which caused Satan to flee from His presence was, “It is WRITTEN”, “It is WRITTEN”, “It is WRITTEN.” How I wish I could burn that motto, BELIEVE GOD, into your mind and heart, so that you would never forget it!
In 2 Timothy 3:16 we read, “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is beneficial for teaching, for exposure, for correction, for discipline in righteousness, that the man of God may be equipped, fitted out for EVERY good act.” Then that is all we need. (see Jer. 10:23; 1 John 2:2; Rom. 10:20)
Colossians 1:20 is another Scripture, right to the point, “And through Him to reconcile ALL (the universe) to Himself, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens.” This speaks of the universality of God’s power, love and wisdom, but it is not believed, as far as I know, by any who hold to man-made creeds. There are many other Scriptures, just as true and just as precious as the foregoing, which are neglected by the religious world of today. But, are not the ones quoted sufficient to awaken every reader, who loves what God has really said, more than the traditions and teachings of man? And should not God’s words be loved and honored by all who profess to be Christians?
Now a question for you, dear reader, to answer — Kindly tell me, do you know of any creed in Christendom, which embraces or contains these precious statements of God’s Word, which I have quoted for you? On the other hand, kindly tell me of any man-made creed which does not DENY them! We should pray for all who have been so blinded as to deny God’s Word for the traditions of men.
In John 12:32 we are told by Christ, Himself, “And I, if I be exalted out of the earth, shall be drawing ALL to Myself. Now this He said, signifying by what manner of death He was about to be dying” (v.33). Why change our Lord’s statement to the theological conclusions, that if we, Christians, exalt Christ by our faithful preaching and zealous work, He will draw some to Himself? Now, do not conclude that I am belittling preaching, for the believer is “an ambassador of Christ.” I am urging the preaching of the Word of God in its purity and simplicity including the Scriptures I have quoted. God’s methods will draw ALL ultimately to His Beloved Son. He Who is all wisdom, love and power, is able to subject ALL to Himself, as Philippians 3:21 asserts. Remember that text, and know we have a God who is not only ABLE, but intends to ultimately draw ALL to Himself, and will, and all the power of Satan and his minions, together with blinded teachers and preachers, cannot successfully thwart Him.
The reason is clearly stated, namely: because “HE is operating ALL in accord with the counsel of His will” (Eph. 1:11), and He “WILLS that ALL shall be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim. 2:4). Keeping Ephesians 1:11 always in mind, holds us calm and sane in the midst of the world’s confusion and unbelief.
Have we not heard earnest men, ignorant of the Scriptures, imploring, even begging God to save lost souls. God has no need of man to tell Him what to do! He is more interested in humanity than you or I could possibly be. When did He ever commission us to beg Him to save souls? 1 Timothy 4:10 says He is the Savior of ALL MANKIND and will draw ALL unto Himself in His own good time and way. We are commissioned to preach the evangel, the “good news” of what God has done for us, through Christ, and He will attend to the DRAWING, and the saving of ALL.God Bless, Jerry.
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In 2 Timothy 3:16 we read, “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is beneficial for teaching, for exposure, for correction, for discipline in righteousness, that the man of God may be equipped, fitted out for EVERY good act.” Then that is all we need. (see Jer. 10:23; 1 John 2:2; Rom. 10:20
if you believe that scriptures are inspired why would you say this;;WRITTEN”, “It is WRITTEN.” How I wish I could burn that motto …..
Pierre
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Eph 1:9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him
Eph 1:10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.
Eph 1:11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
LOVE:
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him.
The Professor
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 26 2010,20:24) 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Eph 1:9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him
Eph 1:10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.
Eph 1:11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
LOVE:
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him.
The Professor
DBFgood scriptures,just a question;Eph 1:9 He made known to us … who are the US.?
Eph 1:11 In Him also we have ;who are the WE ?
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also;who are the YOU ?
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you ;;who is YOU ?
this would help to clear up things better,
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2010,21:38) Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 26 2010,20:24) 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Eph 1:9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him
Eph 1:10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.
Eph 1:11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
LOVE:
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him.
The Professor
DBFgood scriptures,just a question;Eph 1:9 He made known to us … who are the US.?
Eph 1:11 In Him also we have ;who are the WE ?
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also;who are the YOU ?
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you ;;who is YOU ?
this would help to clear up things better,
Pierre
You know Pierre,I am like you. Often times they use many pronouns and I have to go back and read slower to determine who is being addressed.
The paragraph starts in v3 and God is the subject so normally until mentioned otherwise, the pronouns would be for Him.
However for these verses:
v 9, 11, 13 – Us/We/You = Paul and his believing audience the Ephesians (and indirectly us/we all believers)
However, in another epistle Paul asks that his letters be passed around and that is why I placed in parenthesis (all believers).
Belief determines who is a believer & then the Bible pertains to YOU/WE/US:
Jhn 5:38 “You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent.
Jhn 5:47 “But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
Jhn 20:31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.
The Professor
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 26 2010,22:23) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2010,21:38) Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 26 2010,20:24) 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Eph 1:9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him
Eph 1:10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.
Eph 1:11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
LOVE:
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him.
The Professor
DBFgood scriptures,just a question;Eph 1:9 He made known to us … who are the US.?
Eph 1:11 In Him also we have ;who are the WE ?
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also;who are the YOU ?
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you ;;who is YOU ?
this would help to clear up things better,
Pierre
You know Pierre,I am like you. Often times they use many pronouns and I have to go back and read slower to determine who is being addressed.
The paragraph starts in v3 and God is the subject so normally until mentioned otherwise, the pronouns would be for Him.
However for these verses:
v 9, 11, 13 – Us/We/You = Paul and his believing audience the Ephesians (and indirectly us/we all believers)
However, in another epistle Paul asks that his letters be passed around and that is why I placed in parenthesis (all believers).
Belief determines who is a believer & then the Bible pertains to YOU/WE/US:
Jhn 5:38 “You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent.
Jhn 5:47 “But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
Jhn 20:31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.
The Professor
DBFyou say;v 9, 11, 13 – Us/We/You = Paul and his believing audience the Ephesians (and indirectly us/we all believers)
(and indirectly us/we all believers)this is no right;FOR BELIEVERS IN HIM(JESUS) AND INDERECTLY FOR THE TRUE BELIEVERS WHO WILL FOLLOW.
YOU REALLY THINK THAT WE ALL ARE BELIEVERS ,?
IF YOU PLACE YOURSELF AHEAD OF GODS WORD(YOUR EGO) YOU ARE NOT A BELIEVERS ,YOU ARE A JUDGE AND ARE ABOVE THE WORD OF GOD.
BELIEVING IN GOD IS SIMPLY FOLLOW THE WAY OF HIS WORD.HEB 11
GOD CAN AND WILL TAKE CARE OF WHAT IS HIS.I KNOW.
Pierre
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 26 2010,13:24) 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Eph 1:9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him
Eph 1:10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.
Eph 1:11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will,
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
LOVE:
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him.
The Professor
Hi Prof.
In Isaiah 46:11… Saying, All my counsel shall be confirmed,
And all My desire will I do.
(A very strong statement, can God really do all He wants to?)In 1Tim.2:3-4… 3 for this is ideal and welcome in the sight of our Saviour, God,
4 Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth.(So is scripture only His wish? Can He really do what He wills?)
Many will say “no” He can't really do what He wills, they say that mans so-called “free will” can overpower His (Gods) will!
Are we so blind to Gods power that we can say that God is not able to do as He wills? That we can resist His will with ours?
Will God actually be “the saviour of all mankind”? (1Tim.4:9-11)
I would say many believe that only if they “earn” their salvation by what “they” do. Is this not pride in themselves?
Shouldn't we give praise to God for our salvation, and not take the credit ourself for our salvation?God Bless, Jerry.
Jerry,
A good dilemma.
Mat 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Apparently Man can thwart God's will but to his own destruction….because not everyone will do God's work or will.
Jhn 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Rom 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Jerry,
1Ti 4:14 Do not neglect the spiritual gift within you,
God is our Savior by giving us His son to be our Salvation. Without giving/sending us His son there would be no salvation.
It is like the man who threw the life-saver to a drowning passenger thrown overboard….who is the “savior”? The man who gave the life-saver or the life-saver? Or both?
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,12:29) Jerry, 1Ti 4:14 Do not neglect the spiritual gift within you,
God is our Savior by giving us His son to be our Salvation. Without giving/sending us His son there would be no salvation.
It is like the man who threw the life-saver to a drowning passenger thrown overboard….who is the “savior”? The man who gave the life-saver or the life-saver? Or both?
Professor.
You say “Quote It is like the man who threw the life-saver to a drowning passenger thrown overboard….who is the “savior”? The man, who gave the life-saver or the life-saver? Or both? I say it is “The man (God) who gave the life-saver”. You see. scripture says “God is operating ALL in accord with the councel of His will”. (Eph.1:11). So in this case, the drowning passanger, is under Gods control.
Blessings, Jerry.
Quote (chosenone @ Oct. 30 2010,23:45) Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,12:29) Jerry, 1Ti 4:14 Do not neglect the spiritual gift within you,
God is our Savior by giving us His son to be our Salvation. Without giving/sending us His son there would be no salvation.
It is like the man who threw the life-saver to a drowning passenger thrown overboard….who is the “savior”? The man who gave the life-saver or the life-saver? Or both?
Professor.
You say “Quote It is like the man who threw the life-saver to a drowning passenger thrown overboard….who is the “savior”? The man, who gave the life-saver or the life-saver? Or both? I say it is “The man (God) who gave the life-saver”. You see. scripture says “God is operating ALL in accord with the councel of His will”. (Eph.1:11). So in this case, the drowning passanger, is under Gods control.
Blessings, Jerry.
coEph 1:11 In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,
you have a strange version
Pierre
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the great love of God as produced his son and his sacrifice ,so that anyone who believes can be saved,
Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”Gods love offers all an everlasting live if he comes to Christ and believes.
Pierre
The most accurate translation of scripture, a 'word for word' from the original Greek, IMO, is the “Concordant Version”, from which I copied…
Eph.1:1-12.
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through the will of God, to all the saints who are also believers in Christ Jesus:
2 Grace to you and peace from God, our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who blesses us with every spiritual blessing among the celestials, in Christ,
4 according as He chooses us in Him before the disruption of the world, we to be holy and flawless in His sight,
5 in love designating us beforehand for the place of a son for Him through Christ Jesus; in accord with the delight of His will,
6 for the laud of the glory of His grace, which graces us in the Beloved:
7 in Whom we are having the deliverance through His blood, the forgiveness of offenses in accord with the riches of His grace,
8 which He lavishes on us; in all wisdom and prudence
9 making known to us the secret of His will (in accord with His delight, which He purposed in Him)
10 to have an administration of the complement of the eras, to head up all in the Christ — both that in the heavens and that on the earth —
11 in Him in Whom our lot was cast also, being designated beforehand according to the purpose of the One Who is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will,
12 that we should be for the laud of His glory, who are pre-expectant in the Christ.Could anything be more plain? Most other versions of scripture are 'interpetations', not translations.
Blessings, Jerry.
Quote (chosenone @ Oct. 31 2010,12:10) The most accurate translation of scripture, a 'word for word' from the original Greek, IMO, is the “Concordant Version”, from which I copied… Eph.1:1-12.
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through the will of God, to all the saints who are also believers in Christ Jesus:
2 Grace to you and peace from God, our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who blesses us with every spiritual blessing among the celestials, in Christ,
4 according as He chooses us in Him before the disruption of the world, we to be holy and flawless in His sight,
5 in love designating us beforehand for the place of a son for Him through Christ Jesus; in accord with the delight of His will,
6 for the laud of the glory of His grace, which graces us in the Beloved:
7 in Whom we are having the deliverance through His blood, the forgiveness of offenses in accord with the riches of His grace,
8 which He lavishes on us; in all wisdom and prudence
9 making known to us the secret of His will (in accord with His delight, which He purposed in Him)
10 to have an administration of the complement of the eras, to head up all in the Christ — both that in the heavens and that on the earth —
11 in Him in Whom our lot was cast also, being designated beforehand according to the purpose of the One Who is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will,
12 that we should be for the laud of His glory, who are pre-expectant in the Christ.Could anything be more plain? Most other versions of scripture are 'interpetations', not translations.
Blessings, Jerry.
COdo not get confused by your will ,and want s to see what you like not what is true,
everyone that translated the scriptures was not corrupt in the same way,
GOD DOES NOT SUBMIT TO A COUNSEL HE IS THE ONE WHO GIVE COUNSEL .
GOD WILL = GODS PLAN IS ALSO HIS WILL,
Pierre
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