Godhead

[Lightenup]

Nick,
Apparently one Greek word can be translated thus also.

[NickHassan]

Hi LU,
So what do the 3 greek words mean?
Do any translate to what you say it means?

[Lightenup]

Nick,
What 3 Greek words are you talking about?

[Lightenup]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 31 2010,23:26)

Nick, What 3 Greek words are you talking about?

Nick?

[NickHassan]

Hi LU,
I do not have a KJV concordance with me but if you do search
Rom1.19, Col 2.8 and acts 17.29 you will find there are different greek words used-one each time-so no consistency.

Again they translate as divine nature or divinity etc but never mean any sort of community god.

The word has been hijacked to cover for the fac there is no trinity in scripture.

[Lightenup]

Nick,
Here are the three verses you mentioned in the KJ and the NASB:

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Rom 1:20-21 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. KJV NT:2305 qeio/th$ theiotes (thi-ot'-ace); from NT:2304; divinity (abstractly): KJV – godhead. Rom 1:20-21 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. NASU

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Col 2:8-10 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: KJV [BNT:2320 qeo/th$ theotes (theh-ot'-ace); from NT:2316; divinity (abstractly): KJV – godhead.[/B] Col 2:8-10 8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. 9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; NASU

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Acts 17:28-29 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. KJV NT:2304 qei=o$ theios (thi'-os); from NT:2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): KJV – divine, godhead. Acts 17:28-29 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, 'For we also are His children.' 29 “Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. NASU

[NickHassan]

For Ed,
This odd three root word does not mean any sort of multiple member god.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
MB posted this in another thread today
“Hi Ed,

This is from Online Bible Study Tools.

Romans 1:20
Theiotes 3:123,322
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
thi-ot'-ace Noun Feminine

Definition
divinity, divine nature

No “godhead” here.

Acts 17:29
Theios 3:122,322
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
thi'-os Adjective

Definition
a general name of deities or divinities as used by the Greeks

Out of the three times the KJV translates this word, one is as “godhead” and the other two are as “divine”.

Col 2:9
Theotes 3:119,322
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
theh-ot'-ace Noun Feminine

Definition
deity
the state of being God, Godhead

They all just basically apply to one who is divine. I did notice than many translations render it as “godhead”, but that doesn't surprise me, for the trend is definitely trinitarian.
And if this last one was to be rendered as “godhead”, which trinitarians think Jesus is a part of, then wouldn't it kind of be like saying, “All the fullness of Ed J dwells in Ed J”?

Anyway, I learned something today. Thanks RM, SF and Ed!

peace and love,
mike

[NickHassan]

Hi LU,
Are you in a godhead too?

[NickHassan]

Hi,
This odd word is of KJV origin.
It means 3 things depending on which word it is based on.
It cannot give witness to itself because of this and certainly does not mean what most ascribe to it.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2010,06:15)

For Ed, This odd three root word does not mean any sort of multiple member god.

Hi Nick, I never said it did.

                “And Godhead”=63 IS the Majesty of “YHVH”=63 (The GOD of “The Bible”=63)!
Rom:1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen,
                being understood by the things that are made, even his (117=יהוה האלהים)
                Eternal power “and Godhead”=63; so that they are without excuse:

Col:2:9    For in him (Christ=77) dwelleth all the fulness of “the Godhead”=77 bodily.

Acts:17:29: Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the
Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. (HolySpirit's Children)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org        
(Trinity and non-Trinity, can both views be correct?)

[NickHassan]

Hi,
The KJV is clumsy translating three different greek words into one inexplicable word.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2012,03:45)

Hi, The KJV is clumsy translating three different greek words into one inexplicable word.

Hi Nick, it's hard to kick against “THE PRICKS”!
   (something I've been called many times)

                (ONE SPIRIT: GOD)
                LORD of Hosts=151 (AKJV Bible)
                Jesus Christ=151 (The New Testament)
                Holy Spirit=151 (Old and New Testament)
                The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2, 26:4)

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                (Trinity and non-Trinity, can both views be correct?)                

Rom:1:20 θειότης (Godhead) Definitely a reference to the majesty “The LORD JEHOVAH”! (Psalm 68:4)

                “And Godhead”=63 IS the Majesty of “YHVH”=63 (The GOD of “The Bible”=63)!
Rom:1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen,
                being understood by the things that are made, even his (117=יהוה האלהים)
                Eternal power “and Godhead”=63; so that they are without excuse:

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Col:2:9 θεότητος (Godhead) Definitely a reference to “Jesus Christ”, God's holy vessel! (2Cor.5:19)

Col:2:9    For in him (Christ=77) dwelleth all the fulness of “the Godhead”=77 bodily.

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Acts:17:29 θεῖον (Godhead) Definitely a reference to God's “HolySpirit” in us! (2 Peter 1:4)

Acts:17:29: Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the
Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. (HolySpirit's Children)

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          (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

                                 God's Signature  
                                Proof of God=117
GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

        יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
        YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
        Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
        HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
        God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

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Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
So all different and all needing further interpretation.
The numbers are irrelevant

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2012,06:17)

Hi ED, So all different and all needing further interpretation. The numbers are irrelevant

hi Nick,

                        Lucifer(74)  Jesus(74)  Muhammad(74)

Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I(JEHOVAH) divide him(Jesus) a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he(2) hath poured out his soul unto death: and he(3) was numbered with the transgressors;
and he(1) bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

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“At the mouth of three witnesses,
  shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)

    Witness#1  Jesus bore our sins. (1John 2:2)
    Witness#2  By pouring out his soul unto death (Phil.2:8)
    Witness#3  he was numbered (Theomatically) with the transgressors.

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Witness testimony (Christs Apostles) is permitted in court of law,
as is the testimony of (Ed J) experts in the field of forensics!

      1. Witness #1 The Apostle John
      2. Witness #2 The Apostle Paul (Shaool)
      3. Witness #3 Ed J expert witness in Theomatics

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יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
Lucifer appears once in scripture and so no witnesses to his nature.
Pretty colours and shouting letters do not add to veracity.

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

They are ONLY meant to create a memory loop;
God's truth takes time to grow. (Matt. 13:31-33)

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
We are to be providers of sweet water, not admixed with bitter water from the world's ideas.
Personal promotions have no place in the work of God.
Jas 3. 11

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Let the WORD speak.
Adding rationalisations and justifications adds impurities

[NickHassan]

Hi j42,
You said in another thread
“We know that Christ is part of the Godhead,”
What did you mean??

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