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- November 21, 2014 at 5:13 am#784820WakeupParticipant
God and his Woman we must learn to understand.
Before God started creating He already has His Woman with Him.
There was no church; was there? No; There was just God, and His standards.
God’s Woman is His believe system; His Doctrine; Ideology; His standards.His teachings on earth produces children; just like a Woman does produce her children.
Her children must be the perfect image of God. Her children can not be imperfect ,because God is perfect.
Her chidren will have a perfect spirit covering on them. They must not; can not be spiritually naked.Their coverings would be all the true teachings of God, which is His woman.
Christ the Son of God has His Woman; called The daughter of Zion. His perfect teachings; doctrine; ideology; standards.
She produces children also. The true believers and true followers are Her children.
All her children must have perfect coverings on, because the Son of God is perfect.Their perfect coverings is the doctrine of Christ, followed to perfection.
Many will be given their coverings because of His mercy; but must be purified by fire.
When perfection has been achieved, then Christ and his perfect woman will be united into one spirit.
This is speaking of the wedding. And the church will be INVITED to the uniting of the two spirits.As of today; She is not ready for the wedding, because she is still imperfect.
The guests are ready; but not their clothing. They need to be purified by fire.
This is the last chance; BY His mercy.The Tabernacle of God is our covering, We dwell in that atmosphere of Holiness in God.
We dwell in that holy city of God, called Heavenly Zion. Some are in earthly Zion now,
because they are not of Babylon the great.wakeup.
November 21, 2014 at 6:45 am#784822NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
You teach beyond scripture.
By Whose authority?
2Jn 9
November 21, 2014 at 6:56 am#784823LightenupParticipant@Wakeup
Is your teaching, your ‘woman?’
Is the doctrine of the apostle’s their ‘woman?’November 21, 2014 at 7:05 am#784824NickHassanParticipantHi LU,
Yes he is hoist by his own petard thinking he can teach anything from his thoughts and say it is from God.
Tragic really.
November 21, 2014 at 8:23 am#784842terrariccaParticipanthi
wakeup
has his own bible now that will be later added to the already scriptures on hand ,and in many years to come the will become the ruth over the original or previous bible ,
how far more can any man be of the cliff than this wakeup man ?
he is building his own grave and ask all others to do the same thing ,
wup;you use therms out of scriptures but line them up as you personally see fit in your own mind ,not God’s mind
November 21, 2014 at 11:43 am#784927WakeupParticipantLightenup.
No spinning please.
We were discussing God’s Woman; And Christ Woman.
Why the twist?
There was no CHURCH before creation day; but there was God’s Woman in him.
Just like Eve was in Adam.
You have been proven scripturally wrong Lightenup.
Discerning the scriptures is important.wakeup.
November 21, 2014 at 11:54 am#784929WakeupParticipantYes Nick.
Way beyond’ What you, and many have been fed, and have swallowd up.
You, and many can not comprehend it, and see it as a strange teaching.
The lie becomes accepted. And the truth rejected.
The truth will conquer and appear victorious.wakeup.
November 21, 2014 at 3:22 pm#784957NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Yes you have wandered far BEYOND revelation and now want to draw others into the quicksand.
November 21, 2014 at 10:10 pm#785011WakeupParticipantNick.
You are bogged down in quicksand; and I am trying to get you out, for you to be free from bondage.
But you seem to love quicksand, and to wallow in it.
In bondage is where you will stay. You have spoken many words to be judged upon by the Lord.wakeup.
November 22, 2014 at 7:09 am#785032NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Why would anyone follow you?
We know the Master.
Your own ideas are tepid.
November 22, 2014 at 8:01 am#785034LightenupParticipantyou said:
You have been proven scripturally wrong Lightenup.
And where was that which you have proven anything to me? You have only offered your own understanding of some verses. Do you call that proof? Can you give me any early church father’s agreement with you at all on this ‘God’s woman’ heresy that you insist on?
If you are so correct on this, it shouldn’t be too hard to bring agreement with the great followers of Christ in the early years after He walked among men. Contrary to your lofty opinion of your own understanding, I can show you quote after quote who believe the bride of Christ to be understood as the true church of Christ.
It is like you are blind. For instance, you have this idea that people who believe that the church is the bride of Christ are saying that Christ married Himself. That is not saying that at all. Are you still going to say that or are you going to learn. You have been scriptural corrected on that notion. Accept your correction and drop you theory. It shows a lack of wisdom to continue in the same folly. Is the dog going to return to his own vomit??
November 22, 2014 at 8:48 am#785035kerwinParticipantWakeup,
It sounds like you are claiming God’s woman is Wisdom, aka Sophia. In the old testament she is called chokmah as Sophia is Koine Greek and Wisdom is English.
November 22, 2014 at 11:10 am#785041WakeupParticipantLightenup.
It is just something NEW to you, but it is in scripture.
It is not NEW. It is just that you have never discovered; BECAUSE NEVER TAUGHT.
Can you explain these scriptures please.WHO IS HER?Malachi 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Isaiah 66:12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to Her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon Her knees.
Shalom.
wakeup.November 22, 2014 at 11:23 am#785045WakeupParticipantKerwin.
God’s woman begets many children, and one day she will give birth to all her children at the resurrection.
God’s Woman is His doctrine; teachings; laws; commandments.
Many who followes Gods commandments in truth, Are God’s children begotten through His Woman.
The man Jesus was also born of God’s Woman. rev.12.wakeup.
November 22, 2014 at 3:31 pm#785067kerwinParticipantWakeup,
Jesus calls Wisdom both his and John the Baptists mother.
Matthew 11:18-19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. 19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
Are you calling Wisdom the woman of God and the mother of Jesus?
November 22, 2014 at 6:17 pm#785082WakeupParticipantKerwin.
God’s doctrine is in his Word.
The Word of God was made flesh, And teaches his followers the doctrine of God. God’s Word.
Jesus was born by the will of God. God’s will is in his Word.
All things are done by God’s Word. God’s utterance is God’s Word.wakeup.
November 23, 2014 at 2:10 am#785099kerwinParticipantWakeup,
The word of God and the Wisdom of God are pretty much the same thing. Wisdom in Hebrew has a female gender while word in Koine Greek has a male gender.
My question is do you believe Wisdom is God’s woman?
November 23, 2014 at 4:10 pm#785117WakeupParticipantKerwin.
You should have understood by now that in God Is wisdom, by observing all the creation, we see His wisdom.
All was made through His Word. In his word is wisdom, and power.
But By just observing the creation does not produce children, for many have, and still don’t believe in God.
But by following God’s doctrine Does, because she is God’s woman.
Not forgetting That God’s Woman is Symbolically speaking; She is not a physical woman, but spiritual.You have become a believer, therefore you are begotten in HER BELLY, by accepting God’s doctrine.
Now you must grow spiritually mature in her belly OR you will be born a pre mature baby; at the resurrection.
Some will be born dead, because they have not grown at all.They stay in their graves until the 2nd resurrection.
They will be judged by their deeds. By their hearts. Many are dead spiritually because they have never known Christ for good
reasons. Here is where mercy comes into play. The 2nd resurrection.
Do you understand now?wakeup
November 24, 2014 at 2:49 am#785134kerwinParticipantWakeup,
You should have understood by now that in God Is wisdom, by observing all the creation, we see His wisdom.
All was made through His Word. In his word is wisdom, and power.Yes.
But By just observing the creation does not produce children, for many have, and still don’t believe in God.
Still following
But by following God’s doctrine Does, because she is God’s woman.
It is wisdom to follow the Law of Love. Scripture does not say that the Law of Love is God’s wisdom. It does say that Wisdom was among his first works and instructs us to hold to it like a sister. It even refers to it with the pronoun she and other feminine pronouns. I hesitate to limit God’s word which contains his wisdom to just his doctrine. God set the Laws of Physics into being by his Wisdom. Do you consider them part of his teachings, aka doctrine?
Not forgetting That God’s Woman is Symbolically speaking; She is not a physical woman, but spiritual.
I remember and agree that you are using symbols. Scripture does the same.
They will be judged by their deeds. By their hearts. Many are dead spiritually because they have never known Christ for good
reasons. Here is where mercy comes into play. The 2nd resurrection.
Do you understand now?I am not sure where you are coming from here. Do you believe in universal salvation? These words sound like you are saying you do. Please clarify your meaning. Thank you.
November 24, 2014 at 10:51 am#785144WakeupParticipantKerwin.
1). It should not be hard to understand.
You are Christian, because you have adopted the doctrine of Jehovah God.
God’s doctrine begets many like you; they are called, Christians: followers of Christ.2). True Christians:
True Christians will be resurrected at the first resurrection.(the saints).
Many will be killed during the war of man against man. = (the 3rd ww).And more will be killed During the war of man against the Lamb. = (Armageddon)
But not all will be killed; Some gentiles will have a remnant.
The Israeli jews will also have a remnant. And both will multiply during the 1000yr rest. rest=kingdom.
After the 1000yrs, all people that have ever have lived on this planet will be judged by the books.
This is the second resurrection. second judgement; second death, if they are judged guilty.wakeup.
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