God maybe all in all

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942767 Online Group: Regular Members Posts: 4565 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: June 13 2010,06:00 EDIT QUOTE Hi SF: Disagree with your assessment that Jesus is the creator, and understand this to mean that God created everything with Jesus in mind. Quote Hebrews 1 1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Verse 2 states: “By whom (Jesus) also he (God) created the worlds. And Genesis 1: Quote 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Quote 26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Quote 1 Peter1:18Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you Love in Christ, Marty

hi numbers,
(the first part makes no sense to me? whats this about why are you posting your profile thing whatever)
i didnt apply anything.

i simply observed what it said in collasions 1. you tell me what it means and than respond back.

what did paul mean when he said those things.

ok if Christ cant be athe creator how is it that he is eternal life? he is the bread of life?

how does that work?

explain pls.

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Hi numbers,

i just realized you already posted once, but never replied.

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Hebrews 1 1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Verse 2 states: “By whom (Jesus) also he (God) created the worlds.

Your adding to the scripture numbers.

Let me tell you why,
Once the word is referrring to “whom” it is speaking of Jesus and Jesus alone. colossians also gives that same grammer example.

BY Whom Jesus also he created the world.

the sentence before seconds the fact that the writer was talking about Jesus and Jesus alone.
When the Subject of the “son” was written, it was followed by whom, which is in reference or detailing matters of the “son” who was mentioned. It did not mention God nor the father.

Peter 1:20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you

This scripture adds to my points.

It is clear that Jesus was in the Beggging that he IS LIFE. and that he is the CREATOR. The Word was in the Beggining, and it was by the Word things were created.

You can believe whatever you want, but its not fact.
Scripture makes it clear that Jesus always existed and that he is the creator. The Architect, the Craftsman.

much love,

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