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Quote (bodhitharta @ May 10 2012,01:29) If God is not a Male how then can he be considered an actual Father of someone other than as a metaphor?
bd,
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back with you.Who stated that God was not a male?
Quote (Lightenup @ May 11 2012,02:57) Quote (seekingtruth @ May 07 2012,04:52) Kathi,
Sorry I've been very busy.You asked:
Quote So, are you calling the manifestation “the offspring of God” and was that proceeding from the Father an act that happened at the time of creation? Yes, as the laws that govern our reality came into play, God was manifested, not as a creation but as a result of the impending creation.
Quote Would that be the begettal of the offspring of God…the Son? The firstborn of all creation? Of a sorts, however I believe the true begetting of the Son happened when the corporeal manifestation emptied himself and became the “seed” used to impregnate Mary.
My opinion – Wm
Hi William,No problem, I have been busy too.
So, are you saying that the 'manifestation of God' was an offspring of God or not, before the ages.
Thanks,
Kathi
Kathi,
As the manifestation was an extension of God into our “ages” His nature is of the Father from all eternity.Wm
TO ALL.
I'm disappointed by the responses, I know I'm asking for a lot to read the long post on page 1, but I truly do desire correction, show me from scripture if I'm in error don't let me continue in deception (if I have been decieved), all I ask is bring scripture, not opinions.So far I've gotten feedback from; an atheist who denies the truth of scripture, a muslim who distorts the truth in scripture, and 3 christians.
Of the 3 christians; one asked a couple of questions, another told me I should have kept it to myself and only one is attempting to understand for the purpose of providing input.
I'm not looking for an argument, I won't even respond with an explanation if asked, but I have something that I believe was shown to me and I want to make sure it aligns with scripture.
Thank you in advance to any who may respond – Wm
Hi William,
Your thread has taking a rabbit trail away from your revelation, sorry.Bd, Mike and I need to find a better place to have our 'Who is Jesus' discussion (and you, William, if interested) so that you can just only discuss your revelation in this thread. I have moved it to the 'debate' thread in the unbeliever's section.
Hopefully I will see you here Mike, BD, and William:
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….322;r=1Thanks,
KathiQuote (seekingtruth @ May 27 2012,21:06) TO ALL. I'm not looking for an argument, I won't even respond with an explanation if asked, …
– Wm
Hi Wm,What does this even mean? –
questions are forbidden? Or ques-
tioning your revelation is forbidden? …or something else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (seekingtruth @ May 27 2012,21:06) TO ALL.
I'm disappointed by the responses.
I'm disappointed by yours too.Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2012,16:44) Quote (seekingtruth @ May 27 2012,21:06) TO ALL. I'm not looking for an argument, I won't even respond with an explanation if asked, …
– Wm
Hi Wm,What does this even mean? –
questions are forbidden? Or ques-
tioning your revelation is forbidden? …or something else?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Quite the opposite Ed. I want someone to show me, using scripture, why this “revelation” shouldn't be considered. Since it seems, for the most part, to have been ignored, I was trying to remove an obstacle to any who may respond if they weren't “stepping into a big argument”.The trouble is when your deceived your blind to it, history is full of people who got “revelations” from God and became false teachers, I do not want to be one of them. So when I said “I'm not looking for an argument” I'm letting others know that I'm not trying to be controversial and “start a fight” so to speak, but it seems I conveyed just the opposite again, sorry.
Wm
Quote (Stu @ May 28 2012,18:45) Quote (seekingtruth @ May 27 2012,21:06) TO ALL.
I'm disappointed by the responses.
I'm disappointed by yours too.Stuart
Sorry stu, but there are a number of issues in my life right now and I'm not going to add to them by seeking biblical advise from an atheist. So please do not be offended if I ignore you on this thread.Thank you – Wm
Hi Wm,
I believe what you've experienced is a internal information feedback-loop.
I do not believe this information should be easily dismissed,
because it is a product of your internal filters.I would like to explore your vision, is that what you call it?
…in more detail. Give me time to go back over it; OK?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (seekingtruth @ May 28 2012,22:19) Quote (Stu @ May 28 2012,18:45) Quote (seekingtruth @ May 27 2012,21:06) TO ALL.
I'm disappointed by the responses.
I'm disappointed by yours too.Stuart
Sorry stu, but there are a number of issues in my life right now and I'm not going to add to them by seeking biblical advise from an atheist. So please do not be offended if I ignore you on this thread.Thank you – Wm
I don't take offense easily. But I am amused that you would appeal to “issues in your life at the moment” as a reason to cherry pick the “advice” you accept, and to do some the discourtesy of ignoring their considered replies to your posts.I guess with christianity it can be all about you.
Stuart
Quote (bodhitharta @ May 19 2012,09:00) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2012,09:44) Tacky, Ed.
You see Mike this is who says they represent God, How is he considered a Christian or for that matter a believer in God at all? I will never respond to his posts again it is truly time for me to shake the dust off my feet with him.The sad part is this site supports him and all his divination just because he tickles t8's ears about how he believes in Jesus and t8 cannot even see
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.ED is an insult and mockery of this entire forum where down is up and up is down. The TRue believers are put down and the true deceivers, back biters, name callers are given carte blanche.
God bless you Mike but I am out of here I can't be in a place where evil is just allowed to run loose with no checks, where a person can alter the bible , alter your post and insult other Christians without even a minor chastizing this is ED's Heaven.
I may return to post in general but to me ED will gt no more of my attention he is currently a lost cause.
I guess it is possible that allah is gay. I mean, just because I can't imagine how a god could be gay doesn't mean it isn't true, right?After all we can't prove gods don't exist, which is a reason to think they exist, right?**
And in exactly the same way, we can't prove gods aren't gay, which is a reason to think they might be. But that would mean there are other gods with which allah might express its sexuality, and that would also make allah a hypocrite for doing all that homophobic ranting.
Dear oh dear. Homosexuality possibly acceptable; polytheism a possibility; and hypocrisy a possibly quality of the islamic god.
**Of course I could retract all of that if we agree that there is no argument for gods in the claim that you can't disprove their existence.
That would make me a hypocrite!
Stuart
Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 25 2012,19:55) All, Science believes there are anywhere from 10 to 26 dimensions
Time is the upper most dimension and governs all of creation
Wm
Hi Wm,Are these not assumptions?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 25 2012,19:55)
The Father laid the foundation for a new creation to be governed by time
Yet another assumption.Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 25 2012,19:55) All, The Father then created a spiritual realm (a new reality, a band of existence for the awareness of said souls to operate in) for these eternal souls to express themselves in, and to learn from experiences. As the laws that would govern this spiritual reality came into play, God was manifested as everything the constraint of this new reality could possibly support of the Father, this was the Holy Spirit. It allowed Him to interact vicariously through the Holy Spirit as His “agent” to this level of creation called Heaven.
Wm[/i]
Hi Wm, I would agree with this.The word “then” implies that something preceded the spiritual realm.
I believe the Spiritual realm existed before the physical realm.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 25 2012,19:55) Heaven is made up of several “midrange” dimensions
Hi Wm,Yet another assumption.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 25 2012,19:55)
As the Father began planting souls (starting at the higher dimensions), the resulted beings manifested to dwell within that dimension and all Heaven was in harmony, singing praises to the Father and interacting with Him and all was as it should be.
Hi Wm,Planting seems to indicate they were created.
I believe they came from God instead.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 25 2012,19:55)
However, while there is much that we do not understand about the “physics” of the Spiritual realm, we do know (in hindsight) that these beings have free wills, and that by making a wrong choice their spirit is cut off from the source of life and that soul begins to corrupt, ultimately spreading it’s disease and endangering other souls that it interacts with.
hi Wm,Here you have assumptions based on assumptions.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 25 2012,19:55)
when sin was first found in satan it was only apparent to God.
Yet another assumption.Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 25 2012,19:55)
if He just destroyed satan then many of the beings in Heaven wouldn’t be following Him out of love, but fear.
So He created the Lake of Fire to destroy the irredeemable
Hi Wm,This seems like a contradiction? …could you explain how it is not a contradiction?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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