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Quote (Phoenix @ Feb. 23 2007,03:26) Oh Hi Nick…. I still think that the explanation you and T8 gave me gives me the impression that He is the Universe
Or have I limited him by thinking that
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Phoenix
The universe to God is like my shirt to me.My shirt isn't me, so I don't think the universe is God.
I would assume that God transcends all physical things because he is spirit. We are not told that he is physical or energy, but that he created these things.
Therefore if God created the universe, then it stand to reason that he cannot be that which he created because it didn't exist for eternity and God has existed for all eternity.
That is my take.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 29 2007,12:25) The universe to God is like my shirt to me. My shirt isn't me, so I don't think the universe is God.
I would assume that God transcends all physical things because he is spirit. We are not told that he is physical or energy, but that he created these things.
Therefore if God created the universe, then it stand to reason that he cannot be that which he created because it didn't exist for eternity and God has existed for all eternity.
That is my take.
I actually enjoyed your response. Yes…quite.
Oh, and I don't think that eternity has a speed limit.
Your not trying to justify a love for speed, are you?
Seriously though, does physical light have a speed limit?
Take the example of a man on a tram who is moving away from a clock. If he goes at the speed of light, then time would stand still because he would be presented with the same frame.
When we look into a telescope toward the heavens we are looking into a time machine back in time because we are looking at light from the past.
So what happens if we move faster than light?
Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 22 2007,23:13) Hi T8,
You said “If the universe continues to speed up, then it must reach the speed of light at some point. If this happens, then the universe's state would have to change to become infinite, or at least come into a higher dimension or realm or merge into the spiritual realm perhaps”According to Einstein, nothing can ever reach the speed of light because as an object speeds up in relation to the speed of light,
the speed of light speeds up in relation to that object. That is overly simplified because I am not a physicist, but according to his theory, the universe could never catch up with the speed of light.Tim
Sounds good.Inflation means everything is expanding, and speeding up is in relation to everything else, so it makes sense.
So perhaps there is a consequence for an ever speeding up expanding universe in relation to what is outside the universe?
++”So what happens if we move faster than light?
speed = distance / time
When you increase speed, the distance you travel per second increases. When you get near the speed of light, distance starts to get smaller and time starts to get bigger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_contraction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation
(Interesting to read that GPS satellites broadcast time signals that are adjusted for relativity because of the gravitational difference).
Stuart
I followed the links to Earth project Science: The basics
It makes a strawman by saying “Science says you’re right if you believe: The Earth coalesced and cooled from debris from the Big Bang…It hardened into a smooth layered ball”[/I]
Nope, fail. That is not the scientific model of planetary accretion.
Page two makes no sense at all.
Neither does page three.
Page four seems to be trying to say something about continental drift, but it would seem to be another strawman of Wegener’s model of plate tectonics, but again makes no sense at all.
Page five??
Actually only a small proportion of the Earth’s crust is composed of granite, and that is found not in oceanic crust but under the landmass that covers only one third of the planet. And that fact disproves what he writes in the CHALLENGE TO ALL GEOLOGISTS ON EARTH, where he tries to baffle people with lots of rock names while ignoring the geological processes that make subduction happen. I live virtually on top of a subduction zone and if you were here I could take you and show you how it is subducting.
OK, so far nothing but strawmen and nonsense. Looks like an idiot at work, or someone pulling your leg.
There are so many pieces of wrong science in this that I don’t have time to cover them all. Would you like to choose what you think are the most convincing points that he makes and we could cover them properly?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Nov. 22 2009,06:47) Would you like to choose what you think are the most convincing points that he makes and we could cover them properly? Stuart
I think that would be interesting.Tim
Quote (t8 @ Nov. 22 2009,18:36) Stu can't see the forest for the trees.
Where did that come from?Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 20 2009,11:11) hi check this out nealadams.com (science project)
I've read/watched most of the sites. This concept aligns with scripture and as far as those opposed to it they offer more opinions then proof, and over the years I've seen scientific dogma change time and again.My opinion – Wm
Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 23 2009,17:10) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 20 2009,11:11) hi check this out nealadams.com (science project)
I've read/watched most of the sites. This concept aligns with scripture and as far as those opposed to it they offer more opinions then proof, and over the years I've seen scientific dogma change time and again.My opinion – Wm
It is patent nonsense, ancient fantasy ideas about the Earth that could not be further from reality.But I am still waiting for terraricca to tell us which bit is most convincing…
Stuart
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