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[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:59)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,11:42) Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:40) Do you have the Holy Spirit   Was Jesus the Son of Man K Yes but I am not the Spirit. The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit! The bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit or that Jesus received the holy Spirit without measure?  Lets see Jesus is the Holy Spirit but received the Holy Spirit when He was baptized Now I'm confused; How many Spirits is that

K

You are evading the question.

We have been made to drink into One Spirit.

There is One Spirit is there not?

[kenrch]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,12:24)

Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:59) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,11:42) Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:40) Do you have the Holy Spirit    Was Jesus the Son of Man K Yes but I am not the Spirit. The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit! The bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit or that Jesus received the holy Spirit without measure?  Lets see Jesus is the Holy Spirit but received the Holy Spirit when He was baptized Now I'm confused; How many Spirits is that   K You are evading the question. We have been made to drink into One Spirit. There is One Spirit is there not?

I'm not evading anything I'm just repeating what it seems you are saying?  I think?

Didn't you say Jesus is the Holy Spirit?  I'm still waiting for scripture for that one.
I think my question is valid given your statements.

The bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit or that Jesus received the holy Spirit without measure?  Lets see Jesus is the Holy Spirit but received the Holy Spirit when He was baptized ??

If Jesus Is the Holy Spirit then what did He receive when baptized?

Jesus was the Son of man and Son of God.  Just as I am a son of man and a son of GOD being born again.  Jesus was flesh with No sin.  I'm flesh with forgiven sin which means I have no sin as long as I repent.

Unless you “practice” sin then you are not forgiven 🙂

1Jo 3:4  Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,12:42)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,12:24) Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:59) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,11:42) Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:40) Do you have the Holy Spirit    Was Jesus the Son of Man K Yes but I am not the Spirit. The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit! The bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit or that Jesus received the holy Spirit without measure?  Lets see Jesus is the Holy Spirit but received the Holy Spirit when He was baptized Now I'm confused; How many Spirits is that   K You are evading the question. We have been made to drink into One Spirit. There is One Spirit is there not? I'm not evading anything I'm just repeating what it seems you are saying?  I think? Didn't you say Jesus is the Holy Spirit?  I'm still waiting for scripture for that one. I think my question is valid given your statements. The bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit or that Jesus received the holy Spirit without measure?  Lets see Jesus is the Holy Spirit but received the Holy Spirit when He was baptized ?? If Jesus Is the Holy Spirit then what did He receive when baptized? Jesus was the Son of man and Son of God.  Just as I am a son of man and a son of GOD being born again.  Jesus was flesh with No sin.  I'm flesh with forgiven sin which means I have no sin as long as I repent. Unless you “practice” sin then you are forgiven 🙂 1Jo 3:4  Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

K

I suppose one Spirit dosnt mean one spirit then.

Is Christ living in you? Is the Father living in you? Is the Holy Spirit living in you?

Scriptures show a yes for all three. How is this?

By One Spirit which is the Spirit of God the Spirit of Christ and the Comforter.

There is only one way to reconcile this and that is the Trinitarian view.

Study these scriptures closely and you will see what I mean.

One Spirit, Three Persons, One God.

How do you reconcile the folowing scriptures?

Rom 8:
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11  But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

1 Cor 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

2 Cor 6:16
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to *drink into one Spirit*.

Eph 2:18
For through him we both have access *by one Spirit* unto the Father.

Eph 4:4
There is one body, and *ONE Spirit*, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

2 Cor 3:17
Now the Lord(Kurios) is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord(Kurios) is, there is liberty.

2 Cor 13:5
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus (Yeshua)Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Jn 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Jn 16:7
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

As you can see these scriptures state there is the Spirit of God, Spirit of Christ, the Spirit, Spirit of Him, His Spirit, Comforter all gloriously united together as One Spirit, which Paul calls the Spirit of God.

When someone accepts Jesus into their heart does the Spirit of Christ or God or the Comforter come to live in them?

How many Spirits do they recieve?

Blessings!  

[kenrch]

There is one Spirit God for God is a Spirit. That Spirit Jesus has also.  I have that Spirit because I'm born again.

Jesus the person is in the Holy Spirit as I said there are two persons with the SAME SPIRIT.

The Holy Spirit has all the apostles, prophets like Elijah who was John the Baptist who was also John.  The Holy Spirit is in All members of the body.  God is in all His children and will soon be All in All.

Explain how Jesus is the Holy Spirit but yet was filled with Joy from the Holy Spirit.

Luk 10:21  In that same hour he rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will.

Was Jesus baptized with Himself?

I'm still waiting for scripture that you said Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,13:13)

There is one Spirit God for God is a Spirit. That Spirit Jesus has also.  I have that Spirit because I'm born again. Jesus the person is in the Holy Spirit as I said there are two persons with the SAME SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit has all the apostles, prophets like Elijah who was John the Baptist who was also John.  The Holy Spirit is in All members of the body.  God is in all His children and will soon be All in All. Explain how Jesus is the Holy Spirit but yet was filled with Joy from the Holy Spirit. Luk 10:21  In that same hour he rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. Was Jesus baptized with Himself? I'm still waiting for scripture that you said Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

Kenrch

I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit!

One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO.

This is scriptural!

Blessings  

[kenrch]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,18:27)

Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,13:13) There is one Spirit God for God is a Spirit. That Spirit Jesus has also.  I have that Spirit because I'm born again. Jesus the person is in the Holy Spirit as I said there are two persons with the SAME SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit has all the apostles, prophets like Elijah who was John the Baptist who was also John.  The Holy Spirit is in All members of the body.  God is in all His children and will soon be All in All. Explain how Jesus is the Holy Spirit but yet was filled with Joy from the Holy Spirit. Luk 10:21  In that same hour he rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. Was Jesus baptized with Himself? I'm still waiting for scripture that you said Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Kenrch I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit! One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO. This is scriptural! Blessings

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Do you have the Holy Spirit Was Jesus the Son of Man

K

Yes but I am not the Spirit.

This is what you said WJ:

“The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit”!

Now you say:

“I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit”.

So which is it? As I stated I'm still waiting for scripture that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Now who's evading Questions 😀

“But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit!”

This is true but the Spirit is God not another (different) person. God is a Spirit worship him in Spirit and Truth.

“One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO”.

Where do you get this third person? The trintarian view is the doctrine of the Harlot and her daughters. The Trinity is a twisted doctrine as all of the Harlot's doctrine.

IHN&L,

Ken

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,00:48)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,18:27) Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,13:13) There is one Spirit God for God is a Spirit. That Spirit Jesus has also.  I have that Spirit because I'm born again. Jesus the person is in the Holy Spirit as I said there are two persons with the SAME SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit has all the apostles, prophets like Elijah who was John the Baptist who was also John.  The Holy Spirit is in All members of the body.  God is in all His children and will soon be All in All. Explain how Jesus is the Holy Spirit but yet was filled with Joy from the Holy Spirit. Luk 10:21  In that same hour he rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. Was Jesus baptized with Himself? I'm still waiting for scripture that you said Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Kenrch I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit! One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO. This is scriptural! Blessings   Group: Members Posts: 1972 Joined: Oct. 2006  Posted: April 14 2007,11:42   ——————————————————————————– Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:40) Do you have the Holy Spirit    Was Jesus the Son of Man   K Yes but I am not the Spirit. This is what you said WJ: “The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit”! Now you say: “I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit”. So which is it?  As I stated I'm still waiting for scripture that Jesus is the Holy Spirit.  Now who's evading Questions 😀 “But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit!” This is true but the Spirit is God not another (different) person.  God is a Spirit worship him in Spirit and Truth. “One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO”. Where do you get this third person?  The trintarian view is the doctrine of the Harlot and her daughters. The Trinity is a twisted doctrine as all of the Harlot's doctrine. IHN&L, Ken

K

Again I will clarify.

Jesus is not the person the Bible calls the Comforter.

There is One Spirit, (Three Persons not three Spirits), One God as the scriptures in my post show.

The Father and the Son and the Comforter are One Spirit.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,04:53)

Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,00:48) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,18:27) Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,13:13) There is one Spirit God for God is a Spirit. That Spirit Jesus has also.  I have that Spirit because I'm born again. Jesus the person is in the Holy Spirit as I said there are two persons with the SAME SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit has all the apostles, prophets like Elijah who was John the Baptist who was also John.  The Holy Spirit is in All members of the body.  God is in all His children and will soon be All in All. Explain how Jesus is the Holy Spirit but yet was filled with Joy from the Holy Spirit. Luk 10:21  In that same hour he rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. Was Jesus baptized with Himself? I'm still waiting for scripture that you said Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Kenrch I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit! One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO. This is scriptural! Blessings   Group: Members Posts: 1972 Joined: Oct. 2006  Posted: April 14 2007,11:42   ——————————————————————————– Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:40) Do you have the Holy Spirit    Was Jesus the Son of Man   K Yes but I am not the Spirit. This is what you said WJ: “The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit”! Now you say: “I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit”. So which is it?  As I stated I'm still waiting for scripture that Jesus is the Holy Spirit.  Now who's evading Questions 😀 “But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit!” This is true but the Spirit is God not another (different) person.  God is a Spirit worship him in Spirit and Truth. “One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO”. Where do you get this third person?  The trintarian view is the doctrine of the Harlot and her daughters. The Trinity is a twisted doctrine as all of the Harlot's doctrine. IHN&L, Ken K Again I will clarify. Jesus is not the person the Bible calls the Comforter. There is One Spirit, (Three Persons not three Spirits), One God as the scriptures in my post show. The Father and the Son and the Comforter are One Spirit.

K

BTW

Where did I say Jesus is the “Holy Spirit”, meaning the Comforter?

I said the Lord is “the Spirit”.

2 Cor 3:17
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

You also keep saying Trinity is part of the Harlot.

Question? Do you believe in the death and burial and the Ressurection of Jesus?

Well so do the Catholics so come out of her!

Your statement is a lie and your opinion.

The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot?

And of course I have had this conversation with you before and you have no scripture that plainly says the RCC is the harlot just your interpretation and speculation and your opinion.

So you can go ahead and have a fit and tell me to come out of her all you want but I know in whom I have believed and my relationship with him is fine.

Respectfully!

[kenrch]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,11:42)

Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:40) Do you have the Holy Spirit   Was Jesus the Son of Man K Yes but I am not the Spirit. The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit!

WJ,

You said that the bible says Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

“The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit!”

BTW There is nothing clear about the Trinity doctrine it's not suppose to be clear If it were clear it would be Truth that a baby could understand. For such is the kingdom of heaven.

[kenrch]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,05:25)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,04:53) Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,00:48) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 14 2007,18:27) Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,13:13) There is one Spirit God for God is a Spirit. That Spirit Jesus has also.  I have that Spirit because I'm born again. Jesus the person is in the Holy Spirit as I said there are two persons with the SAME SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit has all the apostles, prophets like Elijah who was John the Baptist who was also John.  The Holy Spirit is in All members of the body.  God is in all His children and will soon be All in All. Explain how Jesus is the Holy Spirit but yet was filled with Joy from the Holy Spirit. Luk 10:21  In that same hour he rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. Was Jesus baptized with Himself? I'm still waiting for scripture that you said Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Kenrch I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit. But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit! One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO. This is scriptural! Blessings   Group: Members Posts: 1972 Joined: Oct. 2006  Posted: April 14 2007,11:42   ——————————————————————————– Quote (kenrch @ April 14 2007,11:40) Do you have the Holy Spirit    Was Jesus the Son of Man   K Yes but I am not the Spirit. This is what you said WJ: “The Bible says that Jesus is the Spirit”! Now you say: “I thought my previous post was clear. But to clarify I am not saying that Jesus is the Holy Spirit”. So which is it?  As I stated I'm still waiting for scripture that Jesus is the Holy Spirit.  Now who's evading Questions 😀 “But I am saying by the scriptures that I presented that the Father lives in us and the Son lives in us and the Comforter lives in us by One Spirit!” This is true but the Spirit is God not another (different) person.  God is a Spirit worship him in Spirit and Truth. “One Spirit, Three Persons, One God! Only a Trintarian view can reconcile all of the scriptures I mentioned IMO”. Where do you get this third person?  The trintarian view is the doctrine of the Harlot and her daughters. The Trinity is a twisted doctrine as all of the Harlot's doctrine. IHN&L, Ken K Again I will clarify. Jesus is not the person the Bible calls the Comforter. There is One Spirit, (Three Persons not three Spirits), One God as the scriptures in my post show. The Father and the Son and the Comforter are One Spirit. K BTW Where did I say Jesus is the “Holy Spirit”, meaning the Comforter? I said the Lord is “the Spirit”. 2 Cor 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. You also keep saying Trinity is part of the Harlot. Question? Do you believe in the death and burial and the Ressurection of Jesus? Well so do the Catholics so come out of her! Your statement is a lie and your opinion. The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot? And of course I have had this conversation with you before and you have no scripture that plainly says the RCC is the harlot just your interpretation and speculation and your opinion. So you can go ahead and have a fit and tell me to come out of her all you want but I know in whom I have believed and my relationship with him is fine. Respectfully!

The Catholic teach Jesus was resurrected on Sunday was HE?

Tell me WJ was Jesus three days and nights in the tomb?  Or two nights one day as you god says?

You should reject her false doctrines and come out of her.  This is the end time message Rev 18:4.

IHN&L,

Ken

[kenrch]

“The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot”?

What truth is that?

Name a few

[kenrch]

What are the doctrine of the Harlot?

They walk in long robes.
Luk 20:46 Beware of the scribes who desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the first seats in the synagogues, and the chief places at the feasts;

They use prayer beads and vain repetitions.
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

They call their clergy father.
Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Graven images, light candles, believe they turn bread and wine to body and blood of Christ.
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Joh 6:61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

They changed the law of God.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

They declared Jesus is not the Christ by teaching their false doctrine that Jesus was resurrected on Sunday.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Mat 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said.

That's enough for me!
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

If you keep her false doctrines then you are in her. The end time message is to deny her doctrines and worship in Spirit and Truth.

Did I forget any I'm sure I probably did.

So tell me what truth do they have?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,06:31)

“The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot”? What truth is that? Name a few

K

I did. Did you not read my post?

They believe in the death and burial and resurection of Jesus. Dont you?

If you do then by your definition of partaking of the harlot means you need to come out of her also.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,06:39)

Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,06:31) “The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot”? What truth is that? Name a few     K I did. Did you not read my post? They believe in the death and burial and resurection of Jesus. Dont you? If you do then by your definition of partaking of the harlot means you need to come out of her also.

K

They also beleive in eternal life and being born again and God is Spirit and in the virgin birth etc etc etc.

Do you believe these things?

Then come out of her.

[kenrch]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,06:39)

Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,06:31) “The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot”? What truth is that? Name a few     K I did. Did you not read my post? They believe in the death and burial and resurection of Jesus. Dont you? If you do then by your definition of partaking of the harlot means you need to come out of her also.

WHAT DAY WJ. Or doesn't what Jesus said mean anything.

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

I believe Jesus not your Harlot the Pope.

I suppose you believe the Pope seeing you are defending her.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,06:42)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,06:39) Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,06:31) “The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot”? What truth is that? Name a few     K I did. Did you not read my post? They believe in the death and burial and resurection of Jesus. Dont you? If you do then by your definition of partaking of the harlot means you need to come out of her also. K They also beleive in eternal life and being born again and God is Spirit and in the virgin birth etc etc etc. Do you believe these things? Then come out of her.

K

They also believe in the future Kingdom of God and the second return of Jesus and the great white throne Judgment.

Do you believe these things?

If you do then come out of her.

[kenrch]

Yes virgin birth and they teach Mary died a virgin denying that Jesus had brothers. ETC ETC ETC Like her daughters they may have a peace of truth on the hook but not much not much at all!

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,06:43)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,06:39) Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,06:31) “The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot”? What truth is that? Name a few     K I did. Did you not read my post? They believe in the death and burial and resurection of Jesus. Dont you? If you do then by your definition of partaking of the harlot means you need to come out of her also. WHAT DAY WJ.  Or doesn't what Jesus said mean anything. Mat 12:40  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. I believe Jesus not your Harlot the Pope.   I suppose you believe the Pope seeing you are defending her.

K

You go about to establish that they are the harlot chuch spoken of in Revelation based on the fact that they differ in the day of his resurection.

Is there a scripture that says I cant be saved if I dont believe what day he rose from the dead.

My Bible tells me that “whoever believes in him will be saved”

[kenrch]

If you believe Christ resurrected on sunday then you are denying Jesus is the Christ. That was the sign He gave Not two nights and one day.

Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,06:43)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2007,06:39) Quote (kenrch @ April 15 2007,06:31) “The Catholics have a lot of truth that you yourself believes, so does that mean what you believe is of the Harlot”? What truth is that? Name a few     K I did. Did you not read my post? They believe in the death and burial and resurection of Jesus. Dont you? If you do then by your definition of partaking of the harlot means you need to come out of her also. WHAT DAY WJ.  Or doesn't what Jesus said mean anything. Mat 12:40  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. I believe Jesus not your Harlot the Pope.   I suppose you believe the Pope seeing you are defending her.

K

Also I have no Pope nor am I a Catholic nor have I brightened the doors of one.

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