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It's been historically proven that King James was made for the Church of England and the king and ordained clergy. Geneva bible was translated 51 years before KJ and it has God's name, not Catholic and it was distributed faster then the KJ. More can be found in the link below.
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2011,15:29) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,14:24) for edj
For Ed J?
edjyou are the expert on the KJV so what you got to say ?
abode this version of the bible ?
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2011,09:34) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 13 2011,15:29) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,14:24) for edj
For Ed J?
edj(1)you are the expert on the KJV so what you got to say ?
(2)abode this version of the bible ?
Pierre
Hi Pierre,1) What do want to know?
2) Huh?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgOur Bible
Seeing & Hearing Spiritually: by TK to AllHow can one see & hear, with spirit eyes & ears? Seeing and hearing is through “understanding” Gods words given to us through Jesus. As a person is reborn(mentally recreated) of spirit/word truth, they will see(understand) that the judgment of God came exactly as prophesied. Jesus, the word of God, is that judgment! The eternal word of God, Jesus, has judged, is judging and will judge in the last day. The spiritual day(light) of the lord came, as Jesus/the word of God. When the spirit of God/word of God/Jesus came, it was to teach the good news to those poor( those considered as non-chosen of God, outside of God, heathens, gentiles, without much word/spirit/truth) about God. All persons became called of God in the New Testament. No labels, Jew or gentile, or male or female, bond or free all are considered one in Christ that will accept and believe. Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is come and Gods will is to be finally done on earth the same as it is in Heaven. In group discussions Jesus answered questions to those under the law(old covenant) but his teaching consisted of ONE single thread, to lead mankind back to the original truth, of his perfect union with God/his father.
The original God/Man in communion together.Jesus made the declaration that the law and the prophets were until John the Baptist, since then the Kingdom of God is preached, and men still try to take it by force/war/works/deeds etc.! Actually any efforts or trying by man, of any kind, to “work” his way to Gods good graces is impossible! Luke16:16 Only God can cleanse us and make us perfect and give it to us to be received by faith. We cannot earn it in any way!
Jesus is the “Day(enlightenment) of the Lord” that was prophesied by all the prophets of old, the law and the psalms. Luke24:44. Jesus is the word/spirit from God that came at the end of the old religious order that had failed to produce good fruit. The word/Jesus came to judge between the believers of Gods words or those who hold fast to their own physical works and the law. Those who choose to remain in the law miss having the perfected mind, washed clean by the truth of God. They still believe in their works for perfection. The law of performance through good works never could make any one perfect. That is part of the judgement of Christ.
As Jesus taught the true way to God he used parables, symbolism and metaphor's to create pictures,dreams, visions etc. to exercise and train the spirit within mankind unto understanding. To give us ears to hear! Eyes that see and understanding in the heart so as to turn our thinking around(repent from dead works) and be saved from sin and evil thinking through faith in what God has done for us. They were looking for the Kingdom of God to come down from Heaven. Part of the mission of Jesus was to finally make it clear to the people. Jesus preached and told them clearly, Luke17:20…the Kingdom of God does not come with observation(you won't see it with physical eyes) neither shall they say(and don't say this) lo(look) here or lo there,(or look up)
for behold the Kingdom of God is within you!! That was lord and master Jesus speaking. If one is born again (of spirit) let him hear and see spiritually, all the truth! As lightning instantly lighteth the sky from one end to the other so is the (light, understanding, day of the lord) coming of Jesus. When you understand instantly you say, Oh, I see! The enlightened word of God. Revelations come as quick as the twinkling of an eye. A flash of truth! Hear with spirit ears!
Jesus told us the truth, where God is, (within). The way to God, is a revelation of the truth of God, that flashes within the mind and heart. Take in the words of Jesus/God and build his spiritual Kingdom inside you. Jesus is the foundation rock of your Temple. Jesus is the cornerstone of your house of God, Jesus is the capstone of the home inside of you, where God and Jesus dwell. Jesus is the entry door to God. Jesus has the keys to the Kingdom within. We must fill the Temple(within) with Gods spirit. When the Kingdom is full we must release God to rule through mankind. We are his voice, hands, and feet in the earth. As the words of Jesus are accepted and consumed they become your body of Christ. The Temple of God. The Church which is his body. And everything needed to be in union with God/Jesus/the Spirit! He made us a Kingdom of Priests unto God. Priests in our Temple of God, Kings of our Kingdom of God and Pastors of our Church which is his body. We are made complete through Jesus words of God.
If we love Jesus we love God & his words and they(God,Jesus,words,spirit) will come and make their abode/home/house/temple/dwelling place/ IN US! John14:23
Jesus gave himself to sanctify the Church (mankind, believers) and cleanse us as the body of Christ Eph.5:26 by the washing of the water of the word of God.
We are chosen of Jesus, and ordained for the faith work of God John15:16. Jesus sanctified us through the truth John17:17!
He who heareth the words of Jesus and believeth they are from God who sent him, hath everlasting life NOW, and shall NOT COME INTO JUDGMENT/CONDEMNATION: but is passed(back from Adams choice) from death(evil) to life(good). NOW! John5:24
The works of today are to belive the truth of Jesus. John6:29
The time if fulfilled, the Kingdom of God is at hand (within reach). Mark 1:15…..repent(turn from the way you were going, OT,) and believe the gospel (good news from Jesus)
Now the righteousness of God, without the law, is manifested Rom3:21…man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law Rom3:28….the promise to Abraham & seed was not through the law but through the righteousness which is by faith Rom4:13
…..the law worketh wrath: where there is no law there is no transgression Rom4:15
….we are dead to the law by the body of Christ..Rom7:4…the law brought death Rom7:6
JESUS CONDEMNED/JUDGED SIN IN THE FLESH THAT THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW MIGHT BE FULFILLED IN US…Rom8:4
With the heart man BELIEVETH unto righteousness!! Rom10:10
The law of the spirit of life (Jesus words) hath made us FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH! Rom8:4
The old testament was distorted and altered by religious men, greedy for money and control of the people. In the final days it produce nothing but sin and death through darkness or lack of knowing the truth about God. Sin is the error of thinking that was destroying mankind and keeping him separated from God. Sin and misunderstanding distort and twist the truth by removing the life from it and leaving nothing but believing in sin and death. If you choose to believe the old testament you have chosen the way of sin and death.
If you accept the New Testament truthes of Jesus and believe they give you eternal life, you begin to reverse the original choice of Adam to believe in evil and accept death. We now have, through Jesus, abundant life and freedom from sickness or death if we exercise our faith in God! As it was in the Garden of Eden, its your choice what to believe. IMO, TK
TK
Quote How can one see & hear, with spirit eyes & ears? Seeing and hearing is through “understanding” Gods words given to us through Jesus. Mt 13:15 For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’
Jn 12:40 “He has blinded their eyes
and deadened their hearts,
so they can neither see with their eyes,
nor understand with their hearts,
nor turn—and I would heal them.”Quote If you accept the New Testament truthes of Jesus and believe they give you eternal life, you begin to reverse the original choice of Adam to believe in evil and accept death. We now have, through Jesus, abundant life and freedom from sickness or death if we exercise our faith in God! As it was in the Garden of Eden, its your choice what to believe. IMO, TK Ps 15:1 LORD, who may dwell in your sanctuary?
Who may live on your holy hill?Ps 15:2 He whose walk is blameless
and who does what is righteous,
who speaks the truth from his heartPs 15:3 and has no slander on his tongue,
who does his neighbor no wrong
and casts no slur on his fellowman,
Ps 15:4 who despises a vile man
but honors those who fear the LORD,
who keeps his oath
even when it hurts,
Ps 15:5 who lends his money without usury
and does not accept a bribe against the innocent.He who does these things
will never be shaken.unless you understand all scriptures you will not come to know neither God or Christ ,
Pierre
Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ Aug. 12 2011,12:48) It's been historically proven that King James was made for the Church of England and the king and ordained clergy. Geneva bible was translated 51 years before KJ and it has God's name, not Catholic and it was distributed faster then the KJ. More can be found in the link below.
Sorry what is the Geneva Bible???Never mind, I went on the Internet and I found out that it is the New KJ…. and we do have one….
Peace Irene
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