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Hi everyone
If I may I would like to share my understanding of, In The Beginning. My take is esoteric, so esoteric in fact, that as far as I know, it has been written about by a majority of one
I am sharing this as a hypothesis. It is highly unlikely that one person sees something is scripture that one one else sees, in other words, I am probably mistaken, however, I would still love to hear what you think.
Genesis 1
In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth……Pause…..timeline unknown.
It could be many thousands or many millions of years.Job where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth.
Pslam 102
25 Of old you founded the earth, and the heavens are the workd of Your handsIsa 48:18
For thus says the Lord, Who created the heavens ( He is the God who formed the earth and made it. He established it and did not create it a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited.Genesis 1:1 tells us that God formed the Universe alone
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form and void.This suggests that the earth was formed out of chaos. This does not line up with Genesis 1:1 creation as attested to be the rest of scripture.
The Genesis account is six literal days.
We will come back to the first account, let us go to the second Genesis account.
Genesis 2:5 ( I am going to parapharse )
No shrub of the field was yet in the earth. Earth, here can mean ground, in one specific place, not the entire planet Earth. There was no man to culivate the ground.
Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there divided and became four rivers. The next few scriptures show that Earth had existed; only the garden for the man had not been created to live in and cultivated.
2:7 Then the Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
Man is formed from the earth, and life comes form God, who is the giver of life, when a soul dies it goes back to God who gave it.
Where is the Image of God?
Is it in his form? The body returns to the ground
Is it in his spirit? Man does not have a spirit, if he did then he would be like God, and be immortal when he dies.
His soul , the life breathe, the mind, the humanity, the essence of a person goes back to God. This stays with the Almighty until the resurrection when it is again united with the body.After the man is created, God places him in the garden to work it. Adam was not created to be idle. He was meant to work with his hand and keep the garden.
The first thing God does when he puts him in the garden is give him a food restriction. He may eat from all of the trees except one. He also tells the man the consquences of what will happen it he eats from the tree.
God decides it is not good for man to be alone. He creates other living creatures from the same element he created Adam. He brings them to Adam, and he names them. Adam was most likely and extremely intelligent fella. How long this took the Bible does not say. None are a suitable helpmate for Adam, they are not after his likeness ( his kind ) Therefore, God performs surgery on Adam, and creates a women.
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Again I want to restate that Genesis 1:2 is six literal days.
I am going to start with the seventh day
On the seventh day, God sanctifies his creation. Declares it very good and rests. Instead of using the standard Judeo-christian interpretation of sanctify. Let us us the word sanctify as God might have intended it. Sanctify means free of sin. God literally say this creation is free of sin.
After creating perfection that is wholly very good, Holy God rests.
Mark 3
He entered again the synagogue; and a man was there whose hand was withered
They were watching him to see if he would heal him on the Sabbath so that they might accuse him.
He said to the man with the withered hand, Get up and come forward!
And he said to them, ” Is it lawful to do good on the Sabbath, to save a life or to kill? But they kept silent.John 5:15
The man went away, and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well for this reasoning the Jews were persecuting Jesus because he was doing these things on the Sabbath.But he answered them, My Father is working until now, and I myself am working.
God is kind and full of mercy he made Sabbath for man to rest his flesh, and to have time with God.
Genesis on the third day sprouts forth vegetation. This is amazing because the Sun is not created until day four.
On day five God creates fish and fowl.
Early in day six God creates land animals. Later in the same day, he creates his masterpiece humanity. In His image According to Our likeness. In the Image of God, He created HIM; male and female, He created them.
God blessed them; and God said to them, be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.
Psalm 8
When I consider your heavens, the work of Your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have ordained.
What is man that you take thought of him or the son of man that you Care for him?
Yet you have made him a litlle lower then God
and you Grown him with glory and majesty!
You make him rule over the works of Your hands; you have put all things under his feet, all sheep, and oxen, and also the beast of the field
The birds of the heaven and the fish of the sea,
Whatever passes through the paths of the seaI am getting tired of typing
see hebrews 2:5Genesis 29 God said behold I have given you every plant yeilding seed, and fruit. Notice no restriction, aka tree of knowledge.
Jeremiah 4
I looked on the earth and behold, it was formless and void;
and the heavens and they had no light
I looked on the mountains, and behold, the were quaking
and the hills moved to and fro
I looked and behold there was no man,
and the birds of the heavens had fledLater B
I believe that, The Earth, was created in 6 days, “But beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” 2nd Peter 3:8
Hi Sandra,
The bridegroom is overdue. Check your oil now before he returns. The oil that burns in the lamps and sheds light for you and others, the Spirit of God is still freely available to all who ask the Father.[Lk 11 8f]Quote (sandra @ Mar. 31 2006,04:43) Kenrch, I've enjoyed many things you've written but this time you lost me.
Sandra,Seven days in a week. Each day is like one thousand years.
I haven't counted (lol) but “they” say we are coming to the end of the sixth day or 6 thousand year. Which means that the seventh day or thousand year is the millennium.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
**The last thousand year and seventh day.Hi Sandra,
The bridegroom is overdue. Check your oil now before he returns. The oil that burns in the lamps and sheds light for you and others, the Spirit of God is still freely available to all who ask the Father.[Lk 11 8f]Nick Hassan, you wrote this to me, may I say that I have been saved for 23 years. I was sealed almost three years ago and whether it fits in with your beliefs, I speak the truth.
In terms of the Illuminati discussions, I write more inquisitively rather then exact. Other than the discussions in that Forum, I would say that you have judged me as a non Christian, I am affronted!Hi sandra,
You speak, at times, in esoteric and mystical ways that suggest the Holy Spirit is not the sole source of the things you say.We are warned not to believe every spirit but to test the spirits. None of us is yet a pure spring and we all have to be refined and to refine our speech according to the Spirit as revealed in the Word.
In this light in love I suggest you limit your contributions to scriptural opinions and not other unusual insights. This is a biblical forum.Well My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is, “All and In All” and if I wish to reveal what some of the beliefs are of the Illuminati, as revealed by the Holy Spirit , who does it hurt, but rather, for those like my brother in law, who are in Free Masonry, “all that is secret, shall be revealed”.
You obviously are a very committed Christian Nick, and obviously spend considerable time in this site, do you do it only to preach to Christians that believe in the Trinity doctrine, or do you also desire to reach those that are lost?
Well, ufo's, and esotheric knowledge, are signs and wonders in the heavens that have deceived many. I happen to have two friends, one a very committed Christian that had a terrifying ufo experience. Now, whether the experience was from Satan, you can not convince him of that, he was not harmed but, you will never convince either one of these people that there is not something else out there. I said, that if there is ufo's, and we were meant to know about it, we would have received this knowledge from the scriptures, which we haven't. We have only been told that there would be signs and wonders in the heavens that would deceive many.
Hi sandra.
There is something out there.
There is God who can speak with a sound like thunder. There are archangels and good and evil angels who visit earth. These are fact.Hi B,
You say
“Man is formed from the earth, and life comes form God, who is the giver of life, when a soul dies it goes back to God who gave it.Where is the Image of God?
Is it in his form? The body returns to the ground
Is it in his spirit? Man does not have a spirit, if he did then he would be like God, and be immortal when he dies.
His soul , the life breathe, the mind, the humanity, the essence of a person goes back to God. This stays with the Almighty until the resurrection when it is again united with the body.”Man is surely like to God in all that is not of the secondary creation-man's flesh- which is created from the already created dust of the earth. The spirit of man from the breath of God returns to God[Ecc12]. The soul of natural man resides and sleeps in Sheol in earth but the soul of the redeemed in Christ has mansions awaiting.
Quote “There are archangels. . .These are fact.” –Nick.
Nick, considering how often you tell me to not go beyond what you think is written you seem to sometimes do the same. You state that it is a fact that there “are archanges,” in plural. Which scripture speaks of more than one “chief angel.”
(I don't mean nor want nor will pursue speaking about Michael the archangel here.)
I only wish to point out that you often accuse me of reasoning from the scriptures and believing things are explicitely stated word for word, yet you state as fact what the Bible nowhere says. Archangel nowhere appears in plural.On Genesis 1 and the image of God, could it be that we are made in the image of God in that we have been given certain characteristics, such as love and the power to reason, and a sense of justice, etc?
Hi david,
Is Michael a prince?
Is he the only prince?Daniel 10:21
But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince..”Daniel 10:13
But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.You need to read slower and more carefully. I said:
“(I don't mean nor want nor will pursue speaking about Michael the archangel here.)”
I was simply pointing out that you often accuse me of something you yourself have been doing. I don't mind. I just ask that you correct it or you may have to wear the badge of hypocrisy.
Quote “There are archangels. . .These are fact.”
This is not a Biblical fact. You have stated it as so several times. When I say something that isn't emphatically taught in scripture, you jump all over me. That does sound hypocritical. I was just pointing it out so you can stop and avoid being hypocritical. I'm trying to help you, Nick.david
Nick, you need serious help.
Haven't I just said twice:
“(I don't mean nor want nor will pursue speaking about Michael the archangel here.)”
There are like 3 threads on that.Do you really not know what I am telling you?
Do you regard your hypocrasy so lightly so as to ignore this?
Can you not answer questions straightly ever?
What percentage would you say you answer questions with questions?
I realize why H was driven to insanity and went down the path he did. But I won't fall into that.
Does hypocrasy bother you at all? Is it something you're ok with?
I don't mean to make a big thing out of this. It's just that you accused me of this like 300 times. And you state so strongly that it's a “fact.” Yet, scripture nowhere says such a thing.
You could have just said, the obvious: “You're right, it doesn.'t.”But because of that pride that H was speaking of you completely refuse to.
And then this becomes a thing… a thing where you jump around and avoid the simplest of questions. That's ok. We both know. We know.david
I'm laughing hysterically right now and at the same time a little sad…if you're serious.
If you're joking, I guess that's funny. If you're not, then I don't know what word to use.david.
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