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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 03 2008,06:52) Hi CO,
What of this play?
If God leads towards repentance and grace is irrepressible why do not all repent that they might be saved?
Nick.
All will, at the “consummation”, read 1Cor.15:22-28.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 03 2008,08:36) Hi CO,
At the comsummation only the remnant will remain.
God will be in all.
Correction: God will be All in all. 1Cor.15:28Quote (chosenone @ Oct. 02 2008,16:58) Hi 942767. You said… Hi CO:
I am glad that you and I are in unity that we have to believe and repent in order to be saved.
As the scripture that you quoted states, it is God because of his goodness who leads us to repentance. But it is up to us to repent which means that we are sorry for our sins and it also means that when God convicts us that we are doing wrong and shows us what He wants us to do through His Word we will obey Him.
My answer: We sort of agree, I believe that scripture says, “We are saved when God convicts us, then we repent, not that we are saved 'because' we repent. I think Gene pointed this out to us in an earlier post.
If you look at the scriptures I refered to, Notice in Ro.2:4 …being ignorant that the kindness of God is leading you to repentance?
And in 2Cor.7:9 …but that you were made sorry to repentance. For you were made sorry according to God
Also in 2Tim.2:25 …but that you were made sorry to repentance. For you were made sorry according to GodNotice all these scriptures are pointing out that it was God leading us to repentence, not us repenting of our own (free will?) that resulted in our salvation.
You also ask: “what do you mean all is of God?” It means exactly what it says, let me use and example. Imagine the whole creation is a play, and God is the authour. He (God) has written the script for what is happening from the begining to the end. All will happen exactly as He has described. We are the actors, we act out exactly what the script says we should do. This is confirmed by the scripture in Eph.1:11 …”in Him in Whom our lot was cast also, being designated beforehand according to the purpose of the One Who is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will,”
Does this not descibe what God is doing? Nothing is of us,we cannot save ourselves by “doing” certain things, “all is of God”
Hopes this helps.Also, the book of “Hebrews” is to whom the tiltle describes, the Hebrews, as noted in the first chapter and verse …1 By many portions and many modes, of old, God, speaking to the fathers in the prophets,
Blessings, Jerry.
Hi CO:So the book of Hebrews applies only the Hebrews?
What about 1 John, do these scriptures apply to us?
Hi 942767.
You ask …What about 1 John, do these scriptures apply to us?
I will copy this explanation from the Concordant Publishing concern, they explainn it better than I can.
John, just as truly as Peter and James, ministered to the Circumcision, and referred to the nations as outside the sphere of fellowship (cf 3 Jn.7). Even when he widens the scope of blessing to include the whole world, he lays the heaviest stress on its relation to the favored nation. “He is the Propitiatory Shelter concerned with our sins (Israel's) yet not concerned with ours only, but concerned with the whole world also” (1Jn.2:2).
Blessings.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2008,16:28) Hi CO,
Does the letter to the Romans only apply to Romans?
One gospel of the kingdom.
Nick.
Jesus said: …(Matt.15:24) … Now He, answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”Did Paul say that he was commissioned only to the Romans?
Read the scripture Nick, it reveals much truth.
Nick.
I was right, you answered with an “irrelevent answer”. You remaind me of the “artfull dodger”, you can dance around any question withou really answering.Quote (chosenone @ Oct. 04 2008,16:24) Hi 942767.
You ask …What about 1 John, do these scriptures apply to us?I will copy this explanation from the Concordant Publishing concern, they explainn it better than I can.
John, just as truly as Peter and James, ministered to the Circumcision, and referred to the nations as outside the sphere of fellowship (cf 3 Jn.7). Even when he widens the scope of blessing to include the whole world, he lays the heaviest stress on its relation to the favored nation. “He is the Propitiatory Shelter concerned with our sins (Israel's) yet not concerned with ours only, but concerned with the whole world also” (1Jn.2:2).
Blessings.
Hi CO:Well, does 1 John apply to us or not? If you understand the explanation that you have posted, please give me a simple yes or no. Thanks.
Angels did not have free will but were created to serve. Why is it that mankind was chosen over them ?
If you choose to serve the Lord you have to sumit your will to him thus not having free will any more…
Quote (doneb666 @ Oct. 05 2008,10:25) Angels did not have free will but were created to serve. Why is it that mankind was chosen over them ?
Welcome D6,
Perhaps to humble them.
Nobody's will is absolutely free.
But we and the angels have choiceOne third of them are found to be followers of satan.[rev]
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