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  • #308040
    terraricca
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    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,22:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2012,14:18)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,14:00)
    Hi Wakeup,

    All those thing have nothing to do with
    Mary being Jesus biological mother;
    did you somehow 'think' they did?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDj.

    How come? have you got a better explanation?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup: YES, I do…

                            Jesus lineage explained

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    the holy spirit is Gods power or at least part of it ,Mary was Christ surrogate mother ,to fulfill what was written in the books of the prophets ,it is more for us than for God ,this where signs to us ,

    Ro 1:2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures
    Ro 1:3 regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,
    Ro 1:4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord.
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    this is something to think about

    #308042
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2012,16:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,22:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2012,14:18)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,14:00)
    Hi Wakeup,

    All those thing have nothing to do with
    Mary being Jesus biological mother;
    did you somehow 'think' they did?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDj.

    How come? have you got a better explanation?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup: YES, I do…

                            Jesus lineage explained

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    the holy spirit is Gods power or at least part of it ,Mary was Christ surrogate mother ,to fulfill what was written in the books of the prophets ,it is more for us than for God ,this where signs to us ,

    Ro 1:2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures
    Ro 1:3 regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,
    Ro 1:4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord.
    Ro 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.
    Ro 1:6 And you also are among those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.

    this is something to think about


    Hi Pierre,

    Romans 1:3 is referring to Luke 3:23-31.
    Rom.1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord,
    which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; (see my quote)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308045
    terraricca
    Participant

    edj

    Quote
    Hi Pierre,

    Romans 1:3 is referring to Luke 3:23-31.
    Rom.1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord,
    which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; (see my quote)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    wrong it refers to ;

    Jn 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
    Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’
    Jn 1:31 I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel.”
    Jn 1:32 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him.
    Jn 1:33 I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’
    Jn 1:34 I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God.”

    #308047
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Pierre,

    You not having an “AKJV Bible” causes you to miss it.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308051
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,00:06)
    Hi Pierre,

    You not having an “AKJV Bible” causes you to miss it.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    I have a copy of the 1611 on hand :D

    #308052
    Ed J
    Participant

    Rom.1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which
    was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;  (see Luke 3:23-31)

    #308053
    Ed J
    Participant

    Luke 3:23-31 is Mary's lineage back to David through Nathan.

    #308054
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2012,17:25)
    Luke 3:23-31 is Mary's lineage back to David through Nathan.


    Jesus was made of the seed of David according to the flesh.

    #308055
    Ed J
    Participant

    Pierre,

    It is not merely metaphorical about Jesus having a connection to David's faith  –  
    –  but a real blood lineage (Jesus' mother) back to David through Nathan.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308089
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,00:32)
    Pierre,

    It is not merely metaphorical about Jesus having a connection to David's faith  –  
    –  but a real blood lineage (Jesus' mother) back to David through Nathan.  

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    do you see ,what you are telling me that the connection into the flesh is more important than his heavenly connection ,his father,

    understand that his flesh connection is only good for the prophecy of his linage ,but that's all ,the real Christ his of God entourage ,the son of God ,the first of creation ,and when the son died all things in scriptures in regard to him was done ,this was only to show that God does what he wants and there is no one who can stop him,
    this is why Christ came down from heaven to do just that.
    and now he received the second place in heaven well deserved,and so will bring all of the kingdom of God to its end in all creation

    #308099
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 05 2012,05:48)
    edj

    do you see ,what you are telling me that the connection into the flesh is more important than his heavenly connection ,his father,


    PIERRE,

    I've told you no such thing.  ???
    The “HolySpirit”(God) is Jesus' father.      (Matt.1:18-20, Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308108
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,16:45)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 05 2012,05:48)
    edj

    do you see ,what you are telling me that the connection into the flesh is more important than his heavenly connection ,his father,


    PIERRE,

    I've told you no such thing.  ???
    The “HolySpirit”(God) is Jesus' father.      (Matt.1:18-20, Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    yes you did but not directly;but by not accepting that Christ the son of God came down from heaven ,you made him an man born of a women and so made an big deal out of his mother ,who in reality was just a surrogate mother to Christ ,she still had to accept Christ as her savior that God had chosen to save all who believe .

    #308115
    Ed J
    Participant

    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David; Pierre.

    #308116
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,11:53)
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David; Pierre.


    Hi Pierre,

    Mary was Jesus' mother.
    What evidence do you have,
    Pierre, to suggest she was not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308122
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,18:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,11:53)
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David; Pierre.


    Hi Pierre,

    Mary was Jesus' mother.
    What evidence do you have,
    Pierre, to suggest she was not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    a surrogate mother is still a mother but for someone else child

    #308125
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,18:53)
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David; Pierre.


    edj

    Quote
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David

    what that mean ???

    #308131
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 05 2012,13:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,18:53)
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David; Pierre.


    edj

    Quote
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David

    what that mean ???


    Hi Pierre,

    “The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” (Revelation 19:10)
    “Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David” (John 7:42)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #308183
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,20:54)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 05 2012,13:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,18:53)
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David; Pierre.


    edj

    Quote
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David

    what that mean ???


    Hi Pierre,

    “The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” (Revelation 19:10)
    “Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David” (John 7:42)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    the spirit of prophecy his The testimony of Jesus ;

    this mean that what was prophesied would prove who his the true Christ

    Mary being in the flesh a descendant of David covers that through the flesh ,and in the spirit by the choice God made just like he chose David to become king ;for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”

    1SA 13:14 “But now your kingdom(Saul) shall not endure. The LORD has sought out for Himself a man after His own heart, and the LORD has appointed him as ruler over His people, because you have not kept what the LORD commanded you.”

    #308197
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,11:53)
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David; Pierre.


    EDJ.

    He came of the seed of David; in the flesh.
    Meaning; his flesh body is made of the seed of david,and Mary is of the seed of David. But he came by the will of God.
    His father is God,he is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER.

    No other was born by the will of God. Even Adam was not born of water and blood.

    The Word(spirit); made flesh(man); a citizen of nazareth;of the tribe of judah; Given a glorified body, now with his father in heaven.

    This glorified man will come again to earth with his glorified body,to judge his enemies,by his new –name–: THE WORD OF GOD.

    This man with his glorified body, will rule in his kingdom for 1000yrs, then this same man will hand his kingdom to his Father,and he himself will be subject to his Father.

    And the Father will be all in all. His father will also be our Father, if we follow this mans path.

    wakeup.

    #308340
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 06 2012,06:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 05 2012,11:53)
    Prophecy says he came from the seed of David; Pierre.


    EDJ.

    He came of the seed of David;  in the flesh.
    Meaning; his flesh body is made of the seed of David,and Mary is of the seed of David. But he came by the will of God.
    His father is God,he is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER.

    No other was born by the will of God. Even Adam was not born of water and blood.

    The Word(spirit); made flesh(man); a citizen of nazareth;of the tribe of judah; Given a glorified body, now with his father in heaven.

    This glorified man will come again to earth with his glorified body,to judge his enemies,by his new –name–: THE WORD OF GOD.

    This man with his glorified body, will rule in his kingdom for 1000yrs, then this same man will hand his kingdom to his Father,and he himself will be subject to his Father.

    And the Father will be all in all. His father will also be our Father, if we follow this mans path.

    wakeup.


    wup & edj

    Quote
    He came of the seed of David;  in the flesh.
    Meaning; his flesh body is made of the seed of david,and Mary is of the seed of David. But he came by the will of God.
    His father is God,he is the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER.

    this is why Christ the WORD of God came down and took the cover of a man to pay the ransom for our sins,

    Christ accept to be lowered to the power of a man ,because men could not supply the sacrifice needed to do this ,so God send his son the only he begotten ,just like Abraham and Isaac, done for the offspring that it will bring latter.amen

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