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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2012,16:21)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,12:15)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,16:20)

Hi T,
No Mary was his real mother.
The Sons of God are led by the Spirit… not the sons of Mary.

prove it with scriptures that Mary was not Christ surrogate Mother .

this would mean that Christ did not exist before his conception ,

and that God just created a man like fetus or fertilized one of Mary eggs ,and so Jesus Christ was a man in total and perfect as Adam ,but not better because Adam as been made directly from God without the intervention of a women ,

so let see what is your light on it

Hi Pierre, is this enough for YOU?

Matt.1:18, Matt.2:11, Luke 2:34, John 19:25, Acts 1:14.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you do have understanding do you ?

see you assume that God made a child like in man and women intercourse semen plus egg = baby this is NOT what scriptures are saying ;

so Mary was a surrogate mother to Jesus and God took his son and planted him in Mary and that what Jesus try to say to many but only a few understand this,

men can do it ,God can do it better

March 6, 2012 at 12:50 am#283018

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Hi T,
No he was conceived.
Scripture says so.

But you disagree?

March 6, 2012 at 2:04 am#283047

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2012,17:50)

Hi T,
No he was conceived.
Scripture says so.

But you disagree?

and you want to believe that because you do not want to believe the truth about the son of God being THE WORD OF GOD,

and you do not want to believe Christ wen he says he came down from heaven

and you do not want to believe John in Jn1 -14

and you do not want to believe Paul in Col;1;14=18

and by doing so you have follow men words over Gods words

March 6, 2012 at 2:06 am#283048

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2012,17:50)

Hi T,
No he was conceived.
Scripture says so.

But you disagree?

is surrogate Mother .not in the process of conceiving a child ?

March 6, 2012 at 2:10 am#283051

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Hi T,
No
One or the other

March 6, 2012 at 2:13 am#283052

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2012,19:10)

Hi T,
No
One or the other

thats not a answer,

because you saying that surrogate mothers are not conceiving their babies ??

March 6, 2012 at 2:17 am#283053

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Hi t,
Exactly

March 6, 2012 at 4:51 am#283078

Marlin1

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is surrogate Mother .not in the process of conceiving a child ?
Pierre,
In this you are correct and it is according to scripture. I know that Nick disagrees.

NO PLACE does it say HE was conceived of the HOLY GHOST and MARY. It says that He was of the HOLY GHOST and that should settle it.

But I don't agree with your two or three god theory. That is FALSE.

God Bless
Marlin

March 6, 2012 at 5:35 am#283080

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2012,07:55)

Hi T,
Yes he was conceived – but of the Holy Spirit.

Hi Nick,

Some people don't believe what Scripture says. (Matt.1:18, 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

March 6, 2012 at 5:40 am#283081

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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,10:42)

edj

you do have understanding do you ?

you assume that God made a child like in man and women intercourse semen plus egg = baby this is NOT what scriptures are saying ;

so Mary was a surrogate mother to Jesus and God took his son and planted him in Mary and that what Jesus try to say to many but only a few understand this,

men can do it ,God can do it better

PIERRE,

Mary was a pregnant virgin, do you not believe what Scripture says?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

March 6, 2012 at 5:41 am#283082

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 06 2012,10:12)

Hi Nick,

Can you explain why you believe Jesus was 50%Mary and 50%God?

God Bless
Marlin

Hi Marlin, I can.

Jesus lineage illustrated (as per the bible)

“Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
“Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
“Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

Birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
Baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

Mother Father
Mary HolySpirit
50% 50%
\ /
\ /
Jesus
/ \
/ \
/ \
Son of Man Son of God
(Mark 6:3) (Luke 1:35)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16),

March 6, 2012 at 5:41 am#283083

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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,10:42)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2012,16:21)

Hi Pierre, is this enough for YOU?

Matt.1:18, Matt.2:11, Luke 2:34, John 19:25, Acts 1:14.

God bless
Ed J

edj

you do have understanding do you ?

see you assume that God made a child like in man and women intercourse semen plus egg = baby this is NOT what scriptures are saying ;

so Mary was a surrogate mother to Jesus and God took his son and planted him in Mary and that what Jesus try to say to many but only a few understand this,

men can do it ,God can do it better

PIERRE,

23 chromosomes form Mary, and 23 chromosomes form YHVH.
The “Y” chromosome needed to be male was provided by YHVH.
Science sermonizes that blood in the fetus comes from the Father.
Jesus had “God Blood” running through his veins. (see Acts 20:28)

Lev.17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar
to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

Please watch the time-lines I have specified. In this one watch 3:00 – 5:45.

In this one watch 0:00 – 5:00.

In This one watch 0:32 – 5:20; OK?

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

March 6, 2012 at 5:46 am#283084

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Marlin1,Mar. wrote:

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is surrogate Mother .not in the process of conceiving a child

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Pierre,
In this you are correct and it is according to scripture. I know that Nick disagrees.

NO PLACE does it say HE was conceived of the HOLY GHOST and MARY. It says that He was of the HOLY GHOST and that should settle it.

But I don't agree with your two or three god theory. That is FALSE.

God Bless
Marlin

Hi Marlin,

Matt 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold,
the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying,
Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife:
for that which is conceived in her is of the HolySpirit.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

March 6, 2012 at 6:22 am#283095

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Marlin1,Mar. wrote:

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is surrogate Mother .not in the process of conceiving a child

?
Pierre,
In this you are correct and it is according to scripture. I know that Nick disagrees.

NO PLACE does it say HE was conceived of the HOLY GHOST and MARY. It says that He was of the HOLY GHOST and that should settle it.

But I don't agree with your two or three god theory. That is FALSE.

God Bless
Marlin

marlin

What are you talking about three gods ??”

March 6, 2012 at 8:32 pm#283193

Marlin1

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for that which is conceived in her is of the HolySpirit.

Ed J

In her is not of her. It says it exactly, “OF THE HOLY GHOST”
And that is what it was.

(Matt.1:18, 1:20 / Luke 1:35

Mat 1:18 …. child of the Holy Ghost.
Mat 1:20 …. conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Says it very plain, a babe would understand “OF THE HOLY GHOST”.

LUKE 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

that holy thing if HE was of Mary or Joseph Flesh then He would have been that unholy thing.
For all flesh is fallen, except Jesus. He came WITHOUT SIN and toke our sin upon Himself.

ROMANS 3:23 † For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

GEN 6:12 † And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

PSALM 51:5 † Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

PSALM 58:3 † The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

God Bless
Marlin

March 6, 2012 at 8:40 pm#283195

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Hi M,
HOLY thing is prophetic.
The HOLY Spirit was given to him at the Jordan.

PS 51 includes all men.

March 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm#283198

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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,23:22)

Marlin1,Mar. wrote:

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is surrogate Mother .not in the process of conceiving a child

?
Pierre,
In this you are correct and it is according to scripture. I know that Nick disagrees.

NO PLACE does it say HE was conceived of the HOLY GHOST and MARY. It says that He was of the HOLY GHOST and that should settle it.

But I don't agree with your two or three god theory. That is FALSE.

God Bless
Marlin

marlin

What are you talking about three gods ??”

Marlin

are you insulting me on one side and bless me on the other side

you can keep your lies and your blessings

March 6, 2012 at 8:47 pm#283199

Marlin1

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Pierre,

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What are you talking about three gods ??”

Do you believe in two or three personalities in the God head?
Do you believe that Jesus was a separate spirit or personality with God in the beginning of time?
Do you believe the Holy Ghost is a separate spirit or personality then God?

God Bless
Marlin

March 6, 2012 at 8:56 pm#283201

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 07 2012,13:47)

Pierre,

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What are you talking about three gods ??”

God Bless
Marlin

Marlin
Pierre;
1 )Do you believe in two or three personalities in the God head?
2)Do you believe that Jesus was a separate spirit or personality with God in the beginning of time?
3)Do you believe the Holy Ghost is a separate spirit or personality then God?

first the scriptures says that there is only ONE God ,and one LORD Jesus Christ this is what I believe ,nothing more nothing less.

the holy spirit is OF God so it is not God ,just like my foot is of me but not me,

is this answer your questions ?

March 6, 2012 at 10:14 pm#283214