For those who ‘think’ “the word” is a person

[Ed J]

Hi Everyone,

Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving-
kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name.
Do people actually think this means an elevation of Jesus rather than God's word?

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 10 2010,09:52)

Hi Everyone, Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving- kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name. Do people actually think this means an elevation of Jesus rather than God's word? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

edj

how can you magnified words ??

Pierre

[Baker]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 10 2010,02:52)

Hi Everyone, Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving- kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name. Do people actually think this means an elevation of Jesus rather than God's word? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

Ed, if you are comparing this to John 1:1 an Rev. 19 you are dead wrong. Study it and then come back and see it wirh open eyes…… Peace Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 10 2010,11:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 10 2010,02:52) Hi Everyone, Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving- kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name. Do people actually think this means an elevation of Jesus rather than God's word? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) Ed, if you are comparing this to John 1:1 an Rev. 19 you are dead wrong.   Study it and then come back and see it wirh open eyes…… Peace Irene

Hi Irene,

I'm comparing Psalm 138:2 with everyplace in The Bible where “The Word” is used!
Are you saying… it is 'wrong' to compare Psalm 138:2 with either John 1:1 or Rev.19:13?
It seems you want to give some (un-Biblical) special meaning to both John 1:1 and Rev.19:13?

      Has your study ever included John 6:15?

John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would
come and take him by force, to make him a king, he
departed again into a mountain himself alone.

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

To all,

I read the Protestant flavor of the New International Version of scripture which words Psalm 138:2 differently.  Below is its choice of wording.

Psalm 138:2(NIV) reads:

Quote

I will bow down toward your holy temple       and will praise your name       for your love and your faithfulness,       for you have exalted above all things       your name and your word.

Name in this case is most likely literally referring to Yahweh and all his characteristics.  Word can also be literally referring to God's oral, written, etc. Word. Both name and word could refer to the Spirit of God.

Magnify and exalted are synonymous with glorify.

According to God's word testified by the Spirit of Christ, Jesus was predestined to become King of both Heaven and Earth. So in part this scripture speaks of the coming of Jesus.

[Baker]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2010,17:34)

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 10 2010,11:44) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 10 2010,02:52) Hi Everyone, Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving- kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name. Do people actually think this means an elevation of Jesus rather than God's word? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) Ed, if you are comparing this to John 1:1 an Rev. 19 you are dead wrong.   Study it and then come back and see it wirh open eyes…… Peace Irene Hi Irene, I'm comparing Psalm 138:2 with everyplace in The Bible where “The Word” is used! Are you saying… it is 'wrong' to compare Psalm 138:2 with either John 1:1 or Rev.19:13? It seems you want to give some (un-Biblical) special meaning to both John 1:1 and Rev.19:13?       Has your study ever included John 6:15? John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, and that word became flesh, and is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS?  Psalms 138 has nothing to do with
John 1:1-14 and Rev. 19:13-16 in these Scriptures The Word of God is what became Jesus.  Who did ever believe that Psalms 138 is not God's Word, while in John and Rev, it is not.  
Sorry but I do not agree with you…. And Jesus will not either, because He is The Spoken Word of God.  That is how it should say.  I think just like Paul, John too has Scriptures that we need to compare.  When I go to Rev. 19_13-16 it makes it clear…. And you want to deny that?  My friend God's Holy Spirit is not talking to you…..Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 14 2010,07:45)

To all, I read the Protestant flavor of the New International Version of scripture which words Psalm 138:2 differently.  Below is its choice of wording. Psalm 138:2(NIV) reads: Quote I will bow down toward your holy temple       and will praise your name       for your love and your faithfulness,       for you have exalted above all things       your name and your word. Name in this case is most likely literally referring to Yahweh and all his characteristics.  Word can also be literally referring to God's oral, written, etc. Word. Both name and word could refer to the Spirit of God. Magnify and exalted are synonymous with glorify. According to God's word testified by the Spirit of Christ, Jesus was predestined to become King of both Heaven and Earth. So in part this scripture speaks of the coming of Jesus.

Hi Kerwin,

Here is PROOF for you that the NIV has corrupted God's word!

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

[Ed J]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,10:27)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2010,17:34) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 10 2010,11:44) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 10 2010,02:52) Hi Everyone, Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving- kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name. Do people actually think this means an elevation of Jesus rather than God's word? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) Ed, if you are comparing this to John 1:1 an Rev. 19 you are dead wrong.   Study it and then come back and see it wirh open eyes…… Peace Irene Hi Irene, I'm comparing Psalm 138:2 with everyplace in The Bible where “The Word” is used! Are you saying… it is 'wrong' to compare Psalm 138:2 with either John 1:1 or Rev.19:13? It seems you want to give some (un-Biblical) special meaning to both John 1:1 and Rev.19:13?       Has your study ever included John 6:15? John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed, and that word became flesh, and is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS?  Psalms 138 has nothing to do with John 1:1-14 and Rev. 19:13-16 in these Scriptures The Word of God is what became Jesus.  Who did ever believe that Psalms 138 is not God's Word, while in John and Rev, it is not.   Sorry but I do not agree with you…. And Jesus will not either, because He is The Spoken Word of God.  That is how it should say.  I think just like Paul, John too has Scriptures that we need to compare.  When I go to Rev. 19_13-16 it makes it clear…. And you want to deny that?  My friend God's Holy Spirit is not talking to you…..Irene

Hi Irene,

You have a lot of trouble understanding “Rev.19:11-21” is talking about The “HolySpirit”; but I can help!

                                  “Father: The Word“ = “HolySpirit“                
                                 Isaiah's name means: “Ya is Savior”
                                                   

Isaiah 63:2-10 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel(Jer.4:30), and thy garments like him
that treadeth in the winefat? I (HolySpirit) have trodden the winepress alone (Rev.19:15);
and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample
them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments(Rev.19:13), and I will
stain all my raiment. For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine
own arm brought salvation unto me(Job.40:10-14); and my fury, it upheld me. And I will tread down the
people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength(Ez.28:9) to
the earth. I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to
all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which
he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his loving-
kindnesses. For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Savior.
In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his
pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. But they rebelled, and
vexed his HolySpirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he(HolySpirit) fought against them.

The “HolySpirit” is indeed “The Word”; does this information help you(Irene) to understand now? (Mark 4:12)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 27:4-5)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,10:27)

Ed, and that word became flesh, and is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS?  Psalms 138 has nothing to do with John 1:1-14 and Rev. 19:13-16 in these Scriptures The Word of God is what became Jesus.  Who did ever believe that Psalms 138 is not God's Word, while in John and Rev, it is not.   Sorry but I do not agree with you…. And Jesus will not either, because He is The Spoken Word of God.  That is how it should say.  I think just like Paul, John too has Scriptures that we need to compare.  When I go to Rev. 19_13-16 it makes it clear…. And you want to deny that?  My friend God's Holy Spirit is not talking to you…..Irene

Hi Irene,

Please take the time to look these verses up! (Or Click Here)

These are the verses that PROVE “The Word” is REALLY The HolySpirit”!

Zech.4:6
Zech.12:1

Matt.13:19
Mark 4:14
Mark13:11
Mark 13:19
Luke 3:2
Luke 8:11
John 12:49
John 14:24
John 17:6-8
John 17:14
Acts 4:31
Acts 10:36-38
Acts 10:44
Acts 11:15-16
Acts 13:4-5
Acts 13:47-49
Acts 17:11
Acts 20:32
Romans 9:5-6
Romans 10:17
1Cor. 12:8-9
1Cor. 14:36
2Cor. 5:19
2Cor. 6:6-7
Gal.6:6
Eph. 1:12-13
Eph. 5:26
Eph. 6:17
Phillip.2:16
1Tm.5:17-18
2Tm.2:11-15
2Tm.4:2
Hebrews 1:1-2
Hebrews 2:2-3
Hebrews 4:2-6
Hebrews 4:8-12
Hebrews 5:13-14
Hebrews 7:28
Hebrews 11:3
Hebrews 12:19
James 1:18
1Peter 1:21-23
1Peter 2:6-8
1John 2:7-10
Rev.1:2
Rev.1:9
Rev.19:11-16
Rev.20:4

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Baker]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2010,11:46)

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,10:27) Ed, and that word became flesh, and is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS?  Psalms 138 has nothing to do with John 1:1-14 and Rev. 19:13-16 in these Scriptures The Word of God is what became Jesus.  Who did ever believe that Psalms 138 is not God's Word, while in John and Rev, it is not.   Sorry but I do not agree with you…. And Jesus will not either, because He is The Spoken Word of God.  That is how it should say.  I think just like Paul, John too has Scriptures that we need to compare.  When I go to Rev. 19_13-16 it makes it clear…. And you want to deny that?  My friend God's Holy Spirit is not talking to you…..Irene Hi Irene, Please take the time to look these verses up! (Or Click Here) These are the verses that PROVE “The Word” is REALLY The HolySpirit”! Zech.4:6 Zech.12:1 Matt.13:19 Mark 4:14 Mark13:11 Mark 13:19 Luke 3:2 Luke 8:11 John 12:49 John 14:24 John 17:6-8 John 17:14 Acts 4:31 Acts 10:36-38 Acts 10:44 Acts 11:15-16 Acts 13:4-5 Acts 13:47-49 Acts 17:11 Acts 20:32 Romans 9:5-6 Romans 10:17 1Cor. 12:8-9 1Cor. 14:36 2Cor. 5:19 2Cor. 6:6-7 Gal.6:6 Eph. 1:12-13 Eph. 5:26 Eph. 6:17 Phillip.2:16 1Tm.5:17-18 2Tm.2:11-15 2Tm.4:2 Hebrews 1:1-2 Hebrews 2:2-3 Hebrews 4:2-6 Hebrews 4:8-12 Hebrews 5:13-14 Hebrews 7:28 Hebrews 11:3 Hebrews 12:19 James 1:18 1Peter 1:21-23 1Peter 2:6-8 1John 2:7-10 Rev.1:2 Rev.1:9 Rev.19:11-16 Rev.20:4 God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, I only had to take Rev. 19@11-16 to see that you are so wrong. That is talking about Jesus, who is in verse 16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. And you say that is God's Holy Spirit? Are you for real, or do you believe in a trinity, because even in Isaiah which you quoted it says He, and the Holy Spirit is not a He…….It is a essence of our Heavenly Father and Almighty God. A person cannot be inside of us either….. That's all my friend you have to look at those Scripture and ask God to open your eyes, you are blind right now. To think the Holy Spirit is a person…..Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,13:43)

Ed, (1)I only had to take Rev. 19@11-16 to see that you are so wrong.  That is talking about Jesus, who is in verse 16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. (2)And you say that is God's Holy Spirit?  (3)Are you for real, or do you believe in a trinity, (4)because even in Isaiah which you quoted it says He, and the Holy Spirit is not a He…….It is a essence of our Heavenly Father and Almighty God.  A person cannot be inside of us either….. That's all my friend you have to look at those Scripture and  ask God to open your eyes, (5)you are blind right now.  (6)To think the Holy Spirit is a person…..Irene

HI Irene,

1) You have posted this same thing for over thirty Posts here at h-net;
    do you think repeating something over and over will make it to become true?

2) KING of Kings=117 IS 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) which IS “God Spirit”=117 (John 4:24)
    LORD of Lords=101: 101 is the 26th prime number; “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ-hä-vā and [יה] “YÄ”=26

3) What does “The Word” being the HolySpirit have to do with a trinity? Explain?

4) The HolySpirit is God; do you not believe this? (Luke 12:10 / Matt.12:32)

5) Are you the judge right now? For you to say: 'you are blind right now'

6) The HolySpirit is our father(Eph.4:4-6); do you not believe this?

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

[Baker]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2010,14:48)

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,13:43) Ed, (1)I only had to take Rev. 19@11-16 to see that you are so wrong.  That is talking about Jesus, who is in verse 16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. (2)And you say that is God's Holy Spirit?  (3)Are you for real, or do you believe in a trinity, (4)because even in Isaiah which you quoted it says He, and the Holy Spirit is not a He…….It is a essence of our Heavenly Father and Almighty God.  A person cannot be inside of us either….. That's all my friend you have to look at those Scripture and  ask God to open your eyes, (5)you are blind right now.  (6)To think the Holy Spirit is a person…..Irene HI Irene, 1) You have posted this same thing for over thirty Posts here at h-net;     do you think repeating something over and over will make it to become true? 2) KING of Kings=117 IS 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) which IS “God Spirit”=117 (John 4:24)     LORD of Lords=101: 101 is the 26th prime number; “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ-hä-vā and [יה] “YÄ”=26 3) What does “The Word” being the HolySpirit have to do with a trinity? Explain? 4) The HolySpirit is God; do you not believe this? (Luke 12:10 / Matt.12:32) 5) Are you the judge right now? For you to say: 'you are blind right now' 6) The HolySpirit is our father(Eph.4:4-6); do you not believe this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

Ed. You can't answer when I say that The Word of God became flesh in John 1:14 and also in Rev. 19:16 when it is our KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. That makes it a person and not Gods Holy Spirit. You say if I don't see that the Holy Spirit is God, yes I do., of God. The Holy Spirit has never been a person, so that makes it false as far as those two Scriptures go… And Almighty God has never been a Human Being, that became flesh, it was Jesus. Jesus Himself said that no one has seen Jehovah Gods form our heard His voice…. And to think that God Himself will come and strike the nations is also;so so wrong, it is also Jesus,don't you see that? If I have to repeat myself I will in order to bring my point over, and BTW you say that always when someone does not agree with you…… Everyone here does not like you numbers…. Your doctrine of numbers and that everything is Gods Holy Spirit is wrong …..and a false teaching. You making the Holy Spirit of God into a person and that is what the trinity is about, and dead wrong. ……..some people just don't want tot see the truth….and that woukld have to be to bad for you and your Books…..Irene

[kerwin]

Ed J.

The only real difference is the King James Version states “for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name” and the Protestant’s New International Version states “for you have exalted above all things
your name and your word.”

I interpreted the NIV’s clause to be consistent with scripture while the King James Version variation seems to be impossible since magnifying God’s word also magnifies his name in direct proportion as you are what you say and do. Perhaps you can find a rational interpretation and share it with us. Thank you!

[terraricca]

all

Mt 21:33 “Listen to another parable: There was a landowner who planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and went away on a journey.
Mt 21:34 When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit.
Mt 21:35 “The tenants seized his servants; they beat one, killed another, and stoned a third.
Mt 21:36 Then he sent other servants to them, more than the first time, and the tenants treated them the same way.
Mt 21:37 Last of all, he sent his son to them. ‘They will respect my son,’ he said.
Mt 21:38 “But when the tenants saw the son, they said to each other, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him and take his inheritance.’
Mt 21:39 So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.
Mt 21:40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?”
Mt 21:41 “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end,” they replied, “and he will rent the vineyard to other tenants, who will give him his share of the crop at harvest time.”
Mt 21:42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
“ ‘The stone the builders rejected
has become the capstone;
the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’ ?
Mt 21:43 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.
Mt 21:44 He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed.”

this is a important part of Christ

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 15 2010,09:23)

Ed J. The only real difference is the King James Version states “for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name” and the Protestant’s New International Version states “for you have exalted above all things      your name and your word.” I interpreted the NIV’s clause to be consistent with scripture while the King James Version variation seems to be impossible since magnifying God’s word also magnifies his name in direct proportion as you are what you say and do.  Perhaps you can find a rational interpretation and share it with us.  Thank you!

Hi Kerwin,

It's easy to prove the AKJV Bible has psalm 138:2 translated correctly.

What's God's Name? Case closed!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 15 2010,03:00)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2010,14:48) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,13:43) Ed, (1)I only had to take Rev. 19@11-16 to see that you are so wrong.  That is talking about Jesus, who is in verse 16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. (2)And you say that is God's Holy Spirit?  (3)Are you for real, or do you believe in a trinity, (4)because even in Isaiah which you quoted it says He, and the Holy Spirit is not a He…….It is a essence of our Heavenly Father and Almighty God.  A person cannot be inside of us either….. That's all my friend you have to look at those Scripture and  ask God to open your eyes, (5)you are blind right now.  (6)To think the Holy Spirit is a person…..Irene HI Irene, 1) You have posted this same thing for over thirty Posts here at h-net;     do you think repeating something over and over will make it to become true? 2) KING of Kings=117 IS 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) which IS “God Spirit”=117 (John 4:24)     LORD of Lords=101: 101 is the 26th prime number; “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ-hä-vā and [יה] “YÄ”=26 3) What does “The Word” being the HolySpirit have to do with a trinity? Explain? 4) The HolySpirit is God; do you not believe this? (Luke 12:10 / Matt.12:32) 5) Are you the judge right now? For you to say: 'you are blind right now' 6) The HolySpirit is our father(Eph.4:4-6); do you not believe this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) Ed.  You can't answer when I say that The Word of God became flesh in  John 1:14 and also in Rev. 19:16 when it is our KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. That makes it a person and not Gods Holy Spirit.  You say if I don't see that the Holy Spirit is God, yes I do., of God.  The Holy Spirit has never been a person, so that makes it false as far as those two Scriptures go… And Almighty God has never been a Human Being, that became flesh, it was Jesus.  Jesus Himself said that no one has seen Jehovah Gods form our heard His voice…. And to think that God Himself will come and strike the nations is also;so so wrong, it is also Jesus,don't you see that?  If I have to repeat myself I will in order to bring my point over, and BTW you say that always when someone does not agree with you…… Everyone here does not like you numbers…. Your doctrine of numbers and that everything is Gods Holy Spirit is wrong …..and a false teaching.  You making the Holy Spirit of God into a person and that is what the trinity is about, and dead wrong.   ……..some people just don't want tot see the truth….and that woukld have to be to bad for you and your Books…..Irene

Hi Irene,

Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible…

“The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John;
He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit)
caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit)
also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind!
This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14)

John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ).

I have already explained to you how the “HolySpirit” will rule
with a rod of iron on the first Page third to last Post!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Baker]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 15 2010,20:20)

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 15 2010,03:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2010,14:48) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,13:43) Ed, (1)I only had to take Rev. 19@11-16 to see that you are so wrong.  That is talking about Jesus, who is in verse 16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. (2)And you say that is God's Holy Spirit?  (3)Are you for real, or do you believe in a trinity, (4)because even in Isaiah which you quoted it says He, and the Holy Spirit is not a He…….It is a essence of our Heavenly Father and Almighty God.  A person cannot be inside of us either….. That's all my friend you have to look at those Scripture and  ask God to open your eyes, (5)you are blind right now.  (6)To think the Holy Spirit is a person…..Irene HI Irene, 1) You have posted this same thing for over thirty Posts here at h-net;     do you think repeating something over and over will make it to become true? 2) KING of Kings=117 IS 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) which IS “God Spirit”=117 (John 4:24)     LORD of Lords=101: 101 is the 26th prime number; “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ-hä-vā and [יה] “YÄ”=26 3) What does “The Word” being the HolySpirit have to do with a trinity? Explain? 4) The HolySpirit is God; do you not believe this? (Luke 12:10 / Matt.12:32) 5) Are you the judge right now? For you to say: 'you are blind right now' 6) The HolySpirit is our father(Eph.4:4-6); do you not believe this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) Ed.  You can't answer when I say that The Word of God became flesh in  John 1:14 and also in Rev. 19:16 when it is our KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. That makes it a person and not Gods Holy Spirit.  You say if I don't see that the Holy Spirit is God, yes I do., of God.  The Holy Spirit has never been a person, so that makes it false as far as those two Scriptures go… And Almighty God has never been a Human Being, that became flesh, it was Jesus.  Jesus Himself said that no one has seen Jehovah Gods form our heard His voice…. And to think that God Himself will come and strike the nations is also;so so wrong, it is also Jesus,don't you see that?  If I have to repeat myself I will in order to bring my point over, and BTW you say that always when someone does not agree with you…… Everyone here does not like you numbers…. Your doctrine of numbers and that everything is Gods Holy Spirit is wrong …..and a false teaching.  You making the Holy Spirit of God into a person and that is what the trinity is about, and dead wrong.   ……..some people just don't want tot see the truth….and that woukld have to be to bad for you and your Books…..Irene Hi Irene, Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible… “The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John; He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit) caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit) also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind! This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14) John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ). I have already explained to you how the “HolySpirit” will rule with a rod of iron on the first Page third to last Post! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

You know what, your explanation is flawed to say the least. You even put behind Jesus (Holy Spirit) are you implying that Jesus also is the Holy Spirit of Jehovah God? That is so redicoulous to say the least…..The Holy Spirit also cannot become flesh. That is Jesus in the the flesh…..Who also was The Word of God Scriptures already given……
Peace and Love of God Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 16 2010,01:02)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 15 2010,20:20) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 15 2010,03:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2010,14:48) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,13:43) Ed, (1)I only had to take Rev. 19@11-16 to see that you are so wrong.  That is talking about Jesus, who is in verse 16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. (2)And you say that is God's Holy Spirit?  (3)Are you for real, or do you believe in a trinity, (4)because even in Isaiah which you quoted it says He, and the Holy Spirit is not a He…….It is a essence of our Heavenly Father and Almighty God.  A person cannot be inside of us either….. That's all my friend you have to look at those Scripture and  ask God to open your eyes, (5)you are blind right now.  (6)To think the Holy Spirit is a person…..Irene HI Irene, 1) You have posted this same thing for over thirty Posts here at h-net;     do you think repeating something over and over will make it to become true? 2) KING of Kings=117 IS 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) which IS “God Spirit”=117 (John 4:24)     LORD of Lords=101: 101 is the 26th prime number; “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ-hä-vā and [יה] “YÄ”=26 3) What does “The Word” being the HolySpirit have to do with a trinity? Explain? 4) The HolySpirit is God; do you not believe this? (Luke 12:10 / Matt.12:32) 5) Are you the judge right now? For you to say: 'you are blind right now' 6) The HolySpirit is our father(Eph.4:4-6); do you not believe this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) Ed.  You can't answer when I say that The Word of God became flesh in  John 1:14 and also in Rev. 19:16 when it is our KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. That makes it a person and not Gods Holy Spirit.  You say if I don't see that the Holy Spirit is God, yes I do., of God.  The Holy Spirit has never been a person, so that makes it false as far as those two Scriptures go… And Almighty God has never been a Human Being, that became flesh, it was Jesus.  Jesus Himself said that no one has seen Jehovah Gods form our heard His voice…. And to think that God Himself will come and strike the nations is also;so so wrong, it is also Jesus,don't you see that?  If I have to repeat myself I will in order to bring my point over, and BTW you say that always when someone does not agree with you…… Everyone here does not like you numbers…. Your doctrine of numbers and that everything is Gods Holy Spirit is wrong …..and a false teaching.  You making the Holy Spirit of God into a person and that is what the trinity is about, and dead wrong.   ……..some people just don't want tot see the truth….and that woukld have to be to bad for you and your Books…..Irene Hi Irene, Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible… “The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John; He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit) caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit) also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind! This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14) John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ). I have already explained to you how the “HolySpirit” will rule with a rod of iron on the first Page third to last Post! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org You know what, your explanation is flawed to say the least.  You even put behind Jesus (Holy Spirit)  are you implying that Jesus also is the Holy Spirit of Jehovah God?  That is so redicoulous to say the least…..The Holy Spirit also cannot become flesh.  That is Jesus in the the flesh…..Who also was The Word of God Scriptures already given…… Peace and Love of God Irene

Hi Irene,

YHVH put his Spirit in Jesus! (Heb.7:28 / Eph.4:4-6 / John 4:23-24)
Acts12:24 …”The Word” ([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs) of God grew and multiplied.
Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought
beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall
be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the HolySpirit.
Luke 12:12 For the HolySpirit shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
Matt.10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Baker]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,01:44)

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 16 2010,01:02) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 15 2010,20:20) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 15 2010,03:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2010,14:48) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,13:43) Ed, (1)I only had to take Rev. 19@11-16 to see that you are so wrong.  That is talking about Jesus, who is in verse 16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. (2)And you say that is God's Holy Spirit?  (3)Are you for real, or do you believe in a trinity, (4)because even in Isaiah which you quoted it says He, and the Holy Spirit is not a He…….It is a essence of our Heavenly Father and Almighty God.  A person cannot be inside of us either….. That's all my friend you have to look at those Scripture and  ask God to open your eyes, (5)you are blind right now.  (6)To think the Holy Spirit is a person…..Irene HI Irene, 1) You have posted this same thing for over thirty Posts here at h-net;     do you think repeating something over and over will make it to become true? 2) KING of Kings=117 IS 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) which IS “God Spirit”=117 (John 4:24)     LORD of Lords=101: 101 is the 26th prime number; “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ-hä-vā and [יה] “YÄ”=26 3) What does “The Word” being the HolySpirit have to do with a trinity? Explain? 4) The HolySpirit is God; do you not believe this? (Luke 12:10 / Matt.12:32) 5) Are you the judge right now? For you to say: 'you are blind right now' 6) The HolySpirit is our father(Eph.4:4-6); do you not believe this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) Ed.  You can't answer when I say that The Word of God became flesh in  John 1:14 and also in Rev. 19:16 when it is our KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. That makes it a person and not Gods Holy Spirit.  You say if I don't see that the Holy Spirit is God, yes I do., of God.  The Holy Spirit has never been a person, so that makes it false as far as those two Scriptures go… And Almighty God has never been a Human Being, that became flesh, it was Jesus.  Jesus Himself said that no one has seen Jehovah Gods form our heard His voice…. And to think that God Himself will come and strike the nations is also;so so wrong, it is also Jesus,don't you see that?  If I have to repeat myself I will in order to bring my point over, and BTW you say that always when someone does not agree with you…… Everyone here does not like you numbers…. Your doctrine of numbers and that everything is Gods Holy Spirit is wrong …..and a false teaching.  You making the Holy Spirit of God into a person and that is what the trinity is about, and dead wrong.   ……..some people just don't want tot see the truth….and that woukld have to be to bad for you and your Books…..Irene Hi Irene, Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible… “The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John; He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit) caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit) also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind! This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14) John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ). I have already explained to you how the “HolySpirit” will rule with a rod of iron on the first Page third to last Post! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org You know what, your explanation is flawed to say the least.  You even put behind Jesus (Holy Spirit)  are you implying that Jesus also is the Holy Spirit of Jehovah God?  That is so redicoulous to say the least…..The Holy Spirit also cannot become flesh.  That is Jesus in the the flesh…..Who also was The Word of God Scriptures already given…… Peace and Love of God Irene Hi Irene, YHVH put his Spirit in Jesus! (Heb.7:28 / Eph.4:4-6 / John 4:23-24) Acts12:24 …”The Word” ([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs) of God grew and multiplied. Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the HolySpirit. Luke 12:12 For the HolySpirit shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say. Matt.10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, yes Gods Holy Spirit was also in Jesus, but that those not make The Word of God the Holy Spirit.  What you are saying is right, however that does not prove that the Holy Spirit alone is The Word of God, who became flesh.   Jesus also has A Spirit, just like we have.  But that is not the same as Jehovah Gods Holy Spirit, that you do not see.  Also if the Holy Spirit is a person, which it would have to be if it became flesh, then the Holy Spirit is Jesus Father and that is wrong.
You would have something, if the Scripture in Rev. tells us more about The Word of God.  We do know that Jesus will come back as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.  AND HE WILL STRIKE THE NATIONS ETC.   That my friend is Jesus called THE WORD OF GOD, or better the SPOKEN WORD OF GOD. I can say that because nobody has heard or seen the form of Jehovah God.  When in  the Old Test. God speaks it is always who became Jesus, The Word of God…..I guess you don't believe that Christ preexisted either?
Peace And Love Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 16 2010,02:11)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,01:44) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 16 2010,01:02) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 15 2010,20:20) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 15 2010,03:00) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2010,14:48) Quote (Baker @ Oct. 14 2010,13:43) Ed, (1)I only had to take Rev. 19@11-16 to see that you are so wrong.  That is talking about Jesus, who is in verse 16 KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. (2)And you say that is God's Holy Spirit?  (3)Are you for real, or do you believe in a trinity, (4)because even in Isaiah which you quoted it says He, and the Holy Spirit is not a He…….It is a essence of our Heavenly Father and Almighty God.  A person cannot be inside of us either….. That's all my friend you have to look at those Scripture and  ask God to open your eyes, (5)you are blind right now.  (6)To think the Holy Spirit is a person…..Irene HI Irene, 1) You have posted this same thing for over thirty Posts here at h-net;     do you think repeating something over and over will make it to become true? 2) KING of Kings=117 IS 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) which IS “God Spirit”=117 (John 4:24)     LORD of Lords=101: 101 is the 26th prime number; “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ-hä-vā and [יה] “YÄ”=26 3) What does “The Word” being the HolySpirit have to do with a trinity? Explain? 4) The HolySpirit is God; do you not believe this? (Luke 12:10 / Matt.12:32) 5) Are you the judge right now? For you to say: 'you are blind right now' 6) The HolySpirit is our father(Eph.4:4-6); do you not believe this? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17) 117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) Ed.  You can't answer when I say that The Word of God became flesh in  John 1:14 and also in Rev. 19:16 when it is our KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. That makes it a person and not Gods Holy Spirit.  You say if I don't see that the Holy Spirit is God, yes I do., of God.  The Holy Spirit has never been a person, so that makes it false as far as those two Scriptures go… And Almighty God has never been a Human Being, that became flesh, it was Jesus.  Jesus Himself said that no one has seen Jehovah Gods form our heard His voice…. And to think that God Himself will come and strike the nations is also;so so wrong, it is also Jesus,don't you see that?  If I have to repeat myself I will in order to bring my point over, and BTW you say that always when someone does not agree with you…… Everyone here does not like you numbers…. Your doctrine of numbers and that everything is Gods Holy Spirit is wrong …..and a false teaching.  You making the Holy Spirit of God into a person and that is what the trinity is about, and dead wrong.   ……..some people just don't want tot see the truth….and that woukld have to be to bad for you and your Books…..Irene Hi Irene, Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible… “The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John; He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit) caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit) also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind! This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14) John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ). I have already explained to you how the “HolySpirit” will rule with a rod of iron on the first Page third to last Post! God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org You know what, your explanation is flawed to say the least.  You even put behind Jesus (Holy Spirit)  are you implying that Jesus also is the Holy Spirit of Jehovah God?  That is so redicoulous to say the least…..The Holy Spirit also cannot become flesh.  That is Jesus in the the flesh…..Who also was The Word of God Scriptures already given…… Peace and Love of God Irene Hi Irene, YHVH put his Spirit in Jesus! (Heb.7:28 / Eph.4:4-6 / John 4:23-24) Acts12:24 …”The Word” ([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs) of God grew and multiplied. Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the HolySpirit. Luke 12:12 For the HolySpirit shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say. Matt.10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed, yes Gods Holy Spirit was also in Jesus, but that those not make The Word of God the Holy Spirit.  What you are saying is right, however that does not prove that the Holy Spirit alone is The Word of God, who became flesh.   Jesus also has A Spirit, just like we have.  But that is not the same as Jehovah Gods Holy Spirit, that you do not see.  Also if the Holy Spirit is a person, which it would have to be if it became flesh, then the Holy Spirit is Jesus Father and that is wrong. You would have something, if the Scripture in Rev. tells us more about The Word of God.  We do know that Jesus will come back as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.  AND HE WILL STRIKE THE NATIONS ETC.   That my friend is Jesus called THE WORD OF GOD, or better the SPOKEN WORD OF GOD. I can say that because nobody has heard or see n the form of Jehovah God.  When in  the Old Test. God speaks it is always who became Jesus, The Word of God…..I guess you don't believe that Christ preexisted either? Peace And Love Irene

Hi Irene,

Why do you keep saying God(HolySpirit) is a person?

Deut.4:15-16 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye
saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake (The Word)
unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make
you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male(as in Jesus) or female,

Jesus came back (in spirit form) on the day of Pentecost! (Click Here)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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