For non trinitarians

[NickHassan]

Hi KAT,
There are no scriptures that say God is a trinity and Jesus is not the son of God.

Is Jesus the son of a trinity of which he is part?

[Ed J]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 01 2010,02:00)

luke 24;53 I dont get why you posted that? Are you saying you dont agree with that scripture because its referring to Jesus as God? There is quiet a few more. luke 17;11-19(15 and 18 is praising Him as God (19) and jesus says; Rise up and go; your Faith has made you well. katjo

Hi Katjo,

So if you give a homeless person a $20.00 dollar bill
and they cry out (in a loud voice) thank you God,
all those that hear are to believe you are God?

Seems your logic is a bit lacking?

Ed J

[Anonymous]

Thats quiet different, than Jesus standing over you and healing you, They knew who He was…You try so hard to take everything away from Christ, dont you? Better sat down and read the whole New Testament , its all about Him! He is our Lord God! Ive gave you plenty of scripts, in simple words.. but you wont except them.

katjo

[NickHassan]

Hi KAT,
If Jesus was divine how can you follow him??

[Ed J]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 02 2010,06:58)

Thats quiet different, than Jesus standing over you and healing you, They knew who He was…You try so hard to take everything away from Christ, dont you? Better sat down and read the whole New Testament , its all about Him! He is our Lord God! Ive gave you plenty of scripts, in simple words.. but you wont except them. katjo

Hi Katjo,

I take nothing away from [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă, He is The Son of GOD [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā!
Jesus is Lord(Owner), and his Father is GOD(The Owner)! Is there ANY problem with that?

Whether Jesus deserves worship is NOT what I take issue with you over.
Your logic does NOT prove your assertions as you think it does!
If you want to prove something then offer PROOF, your opinion is NO proof!

If a “tella-evangelist” lays hands on someone and they cry out “Thank you God”,
are the people watching to believe the “tella-evangelist” is God?
This is the logic you present, can you NOT see that it is FAULTY LOGIC?

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Anonymous]

You speaking there of a person just like you and I, not one who came down from heaven and formed miracles! you know, and I know you wouldnt call someone who laid hands on you God, But if jesus is laying hands on me, doing the healing of course im going to say thank you God, only God could perform such things. Why do you say I have no proof when I have given so many scriptures? Tell me this, If Jesus is Lord(one Lord)and God is a title for the Lord, and scripture tells us the Lord is our God, How do you see past that?I would really lke to know.. Answer me this what is these verses saying; Acts 2;36 tells us that God has made this Jesus BOTH LORD AND CHRIST and (39) says; the promise is for all whom the lord our God will call. 36 says Jesus Is Lord and 39 says the Lord is God, explain that to me.

katjo

[Ed J]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 02 2010,15:09)

You speaking there of a person just like you and I, not one who came down from heaven and formed miracles! you know, and I know you wouldnt call someone who laid hands on you God, But if  jesus is laying hands on me, doing the healing of course im going to say thank you God, only God could perform such things. Why do you say I have no proof when I have given so many scriptures? Tell me this, If Jesus is Lord(one Lord)and God is a title for the Lord, and scripture tells us the Lord is our God, How do you see past that?I would really lke to know.. Answer me this what is these verses saying; Acts 2;36 tells us that God has made this Jesus BOTH LORD AND CHRIST and (39) says; the promise is for all whom the lord our God will call. 36 says Jesus Is Lord and 39 says the Lord is God, explain that to me. katjo

Hi Katjo,

First: God is NOT a 'title' for “the Lord”.
They are different words carrying different meanings.
GOD means: “Supreme Deity” and Lord means “Owner”; different meanings.

[יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā is GOD(The Owner) and [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă is Son of The Owner and also “Owner” by proxy.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
that God([יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā) hath made that same Jesus([יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă),
whom ye have crucified, both Lord(Owner) and Christ(Anointed).

Let's look at what is being said here…

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself,
The LORD([יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord([יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă),
Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy enemies thy footstool.
This can be better seen and understood using Geometry.

   

In this picture “GOD The Father”(יהוה האלהים) is represented by “The Large Box”
and “Jesus” is represented as “The Box” inside “The Large Box”(respectively at the right hand).

Acts 2:36 For the promise is unto you, and to your children,
and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
The “Owner” in this verse is “GOD The Father”(יהוה האלהים) rather than ([יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă).
Saying there is “ONLY” “One Owner” does NOT create any conflict of interest here;
nor should you continue to have 'confusion' over this issue!

Does this illustrative explanation provide any clarity for you?
If you still want to PROVE your assertions, this verse does NOT do it!
Try again if you still persist, but this verse in NO WAY proves your assertions.
Neither did your faulty logic, as changing the parameters illustrates.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

hi

Ro 2:16 This will take place on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares

[terraricca]

hi

1Co 3:17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is sacred, and you are that temple.
1Co 5:13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked man from among you.”
1Co 6:13 “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food”—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

[terraricca]

hi

Ps 15:2 He whose walk is blameless
and who does what is righteous,
who speaks the truth from his heart

Ps 25:5 guide me in your truth and teach me,
for you are God my Savior,

Ps 26:3 for your love is ever before me,
and I walk continually in your truth.
Ps 31:5 Into your hands I commit my spirit;
redeem me, O LORD, the God of truth.

Ps 40:10 I do not hide your righteousness in my heart;
I speak of your faithfulness and salvation.
I do not conceal your love and your truth
from the great assembly.

Ps 51:6 Surely you desire truth in the inner parts;
you teach me wisdom in the inmost place.

PS 52:1 Why do you boast in evil, O mighty man?
The lovingkindness of God endures all day long.
PS 52:2 Your tongue devises destruction,
Like a sharp razor, O worker of deceit.
PS 52:3 You love evil more than good,
Falsehood more than speaking what is right. Selah.
PS 52:4 You love all words that devour,
O deceitful tongue.
PS 52:5
But God will break you down forever;

[Anonymous]

there is only one Lord, and Jesus is called the Lord our God. He is also called our Everlasting Father!

katjo

[NickHassan]

Hi KAT,
So WHO is the ONE Who is His God and our God, that the son of God spoke of?[Jn20]

[Anonymous]

So Nick,(its your turn to answer)Why is Jesus called the Everlasting Father? I will wait.

KATJO

[NickHassan]

Hi Kat,
He called his brothers his children [Jn21.5]
Now WHO is the GOD OF Jesus?

[terraricca]

kat

if you stop seeing thing trough the eyes of trinity ,you then see and understand scriptures like;;Ecc 9:7 Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for it is now that God favors what you do.
Ecc 9:8 Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil.

[JustAskin]

Katjo,

Satan wants people to supplant God with Jesus to get his own back. Please take into account that SATAN is the one influencing you to do the things that you are doing.

Satan targets the 'Weaker Vessel' by making them sentimental towards righteousness.
Satan targets the 'Stronger Vessel' by making the haughty and self exalting so they fall into the trap of the Self-Mighty ones.

[Anonymous]

SO WRONG! I know my bible. And have went to church for years. You are throwing out rude comments again to steer away from answering why Jesus is called the Everlasting Father, And God ALmighty too!

katjo

[terraricca]

kat
i will answer you but i would like to know the bible version you using and the scriptures you refer to .

[NickHassan]

Hi Kat,
WHO is the God of Jesus?[Jn20]

[NickHassan]

Hi KAT,
Why not be brave and answer this question?

Surely the God of Jesus is the Almighty one you should seek to serve?
Jesus is the way to Him.

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