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- October 26, 2008 at 10:22 am#111109VestnikRAParticipant
Kejonn, I totaly agree with Jonathan Swift's saying in your signature
October 27, 2008 at 1:19 pm#111170theodorejParticipantQuote (VestnikRA @ Oct. 25 2008,05:35) I just feel it, man can always feel God inside himself and get any answer whatever you need.
Greetings V….Where ever two or more are gathered in his name in earnest prayer and suplication there he will be…”The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom”from fear comes respect,it is the respect God expects, the fear is the means….How could any one not fear the awesome power that created this universe and every thing in it…It is human huberous that eliminates the fear factor and replaced it with the bancrupted reasoning that God is not be feared because he loves us….yes he loves us all,but he demands respect,and that respect is manafest through fear….Without fear there is no courage…And it takes courage to stand for your faith and what you believe to be true…October 28, 2008 at 6:45 am#111201StuParticipantThe fear of god or the fear of the unknown, painted as an invented god by those who would like the power?
Stuart
October 28, 2008 at 12:21 pm#111215theodorejParticipantQuote (Stu @ Oct. 28 2008,18:45) The fear of god or the fear of the unknown, painted as an invented god by those who would like the power? Stuart
Greetings Stu…..Fear is a form of heightened awareness,your power comes from your presentation,eg. “Power perceived is power achieved” so as you see we all have the ability to project power….God is the all powerfull source and deserving of respect,which eminates from fear…October 29, 2008 at 8:46 am#111249StuParticipantQuote (theodorej @ Oct. 29 2008,00:21) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 28 2008,18:45) The fear of god or the fear of the unknown, painted as an invented god by those who would like the power? Stuart
Greetings Stu…..Fear is a form of heightened awareness,your power comes from your presentation,eg. “Power perceived is power achieved” so as you see we all have the ability to project power….God is the all powerfull source and deserving of respect,which eminates from fear…
So when a Catholic preist tells a young child that his tragically dead 'unsaved' friend is going to hell, would you say the fear engendered in the child is a kind of 'heightened awareness'?From posting here, my heightened awareness of your god tells me that I should be more fearful of his followers than anything else.
Stuart
October 29, 2008 at 1:22 pm#111259theodorejParticipantQuote (Stu @ Oct. 29 2008,20:46) Quote (theodorej @ Oct. 29 2008,00:21) Quote (Stu @ Oct. 28 2008,18:45) The fear of god or the fear of the unknown, painted as an invented god by those who would like the power? Stuart
Greetings Stu…..Fear is a form of heightened awareness,your power comes from your presentation,eg. “Power perceived is power achieved” so as you see we all have the ability to project power….God is the all powerfull source and deserving of respect,which eminates from fear…
So when a Catholic preist tells a young child that his tragically dead 'unsaved' friend is going to hell, would you say the fear engendered in the child is a kind of 'heightened awareness'?From posting here, my heightened awareness of your god tells me that I should be more fearful of his followers than anything else.
Stuart
Greetings Stu….Very Aptly put….and indeed it would be wise to employ your heightened awareness when it comes to the doctrine and dogma of the catholic church…Any child burdened with the fear of death and eternal damnation as I see it will be entering the world with a handicap and a good many people have evolved over years with this burden….The dogma of organized religion in conjunction with the parroting of misunderstood misinterpreted scripture is essence of what is represented today as christianity….The Christ would not be able to recognize the nonsense of todays so called christianity…A young child is precious and Jesus said “It would be better that you kill yourself than to corupt this young mind with evil.”..October 29, 2008 at 5:45 pm#111264StuParticipantOf course you are right, but forget the dispensable dogmas of the RC. Any religious zealot who seriously believes in resurrection is someone to be worried about, I think.
Stuart
October 30, 2008 at 9:56 am#111270theodorejParticipantQuote (Stu @ Oct. 30 2008,05:45) Of course you are right, but forget the dispensable dogmas of the RC. Any religious zealot who seriously believes in resurrection is someone to be worried about, I think. Stuart
Greetings Stu…..The fact that Jesus was resurected is the core belief of apostolic christianity and in general all other forms of christianity….My emphasis on apostolic christianity is because the apostles being Jews for the most part are reporters/writers of the gospels and first hand witnesses of numerous apparitions both in spirit and body…If this event did not happen then they are all liars and would never had writen of this occurance over the years following the crucifiction….Jewish leadership of that period continued to deny the deity of Jesus and vigorously persued the apostles…they knew the resurection had happened,if they could have proved it didn't, they would have certainly made a case for a fraud of this magnitude…October 30, 2008 at 5:53 pm#111274StuParticipantHi theodorej
The alleged resurrection is religious fantasy, not a 'fact'. None of the gospels were written by eyewitnesses. We can't say whether the gospel writers were being intentionally misleading in their writing because we don't even know who they were. The denial of the christian mythology by Jewish leaders is all the greater motive for early christians to 'big up' their claims and set the stage for later revision of Jewish diarist writing. Was altering the writing of others by them honest?
You are asked by a christian church or the bible to believe absurd things. That is a characteristic found in very few other religions. You cannot be a christian unless you believe in once-off events that were not witnessed by any non-christian or even christian writer to the extent that a record of that observation remains. That does not disprove them, but there is no evidence for virgin birth, resurrection or miracles. The only honesty here is to say you take these things on blind faith, with no evidence that reliably supports them. I am happy to provide evidence that all these things are impossible to replicate, although illusionists can perform the miracles of Jesus quite convincingly.
Stuart
November 2, 2008 at 3:32 am#111319charityParticipantThe alleged resurrection, an Allie way thou to escape the shame of brutalization, without grief, and fully self delivering from accountability, due to its save, all good now he has risen again.
November 3, 2008 at 11:33 am#111341Not3in1ParticipantTheo,
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom?
I thought that perfect love casts out fear?
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