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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,07:44) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,05:57) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,03:52) Hi Pierre, 1. 24 hours
2. a 1,000 years
3. Other, what then?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.how long do you think the first Day was
?
T,The sun was not yet created.
Kthis was not my point ;it was that in scriptures the word “DAY” could mean many things IN TIME
T,I agree with that.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,07:26) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,11:35) Hi Pierre, 1. Stars
2. Orbit around the Sun
3. The axis tilt of the Earth
4. The moon“And God said, Let there be (1)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be (2)for signs, (3)and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights
in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made
two great lights (sun on day one); the greater light to rule the day, and (4)the lesser light to rule the night:
(1)he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it
was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThen what was it that God created in the beginning
The first dayHelp me to understand your view may be I am wrong ?
T,God created the physical laws of light; as there was no light but him previously. All was darkness and night. The Sun is just a source of light.
Since there was no Sun the night/day cycle was not speaking of the night/day cycle of Earth.
kIT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE ;
1)Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth;
WHAT DOES THIS SAYwhat does it mean ;IN THE BEGINNING
IS THIS NOT THE BEGINNING OF CREATION OF THE PHYSICAL WORLD then says ;;create the HEAVEN ,tell me what his the HEAVEN
and what his the EARTH
2) then upon a visit to the earth God sees what ???Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
what his the spirit of God that was hovering over the waters
and why not over land 3)Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.what type of light was it that was created then
why was the light separated from darkness
and what his darkness
so that it can be separated from the light any ideas
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,09:56) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,07:26) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,11:35) Hi Pierre, 1. Stars
2. Orbit around the Sun
3. The axis tilt of the Earth
4. The moon“And God said, Let there be (1)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be (2)for signs, (3)and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights
in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made
two great lights (sun on day one); the greater light to rule the day, and (4)the lesser light to rule the night:
(1)he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it
was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThen what was it that God created in the beginning
The first dayHelp me to understand your view may be I am wrong ?
T,God created the physical laws of light; as there was no light but him previously. All was darkness and night. The Sun is just a source of light.
Since there was no Sun the night/day cycle was not speaking of the night/day cycle of Earth.
kIT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE ;
1)Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth;
WHAT DOES THIS SAYwhat does it mean ;IN THE BEGINNING
IS THIS NOT THE BEGINNING OF CREATION OF THE PHYSICAL WORLD then says ;;create the HEAVEN ,tell me what his the HEAVEN
and what his the EARTH
2) then upon a visit to the earth God sees what ???Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
what his the spirit of God that was hovering over the waters
and why not over land 3)Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.what type of light was it that was created then
why was the light separated from darkness
and what his darkness
so that it can be separated from the light any ideas
T,Darkness is the absence of light.
God separated the light from the darkness by laying down the laws and so making a distinction. That is why it is also written “God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night”
On the 4th day he did the same for the earth.
According Genesis 1 earth did not have a night and day until the forth day. In fact there was no stars, sun, or moon prior to the 4th day. The 24 hour night/day period we know today first existed on day 4.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,12:26) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,11:35) Hi Pierre, 1. Stars
2. Orbit around the Sun
3. The axis tilt of the Earth
4. The moon“And God said, Let there be (1)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be (2)for signs, (3)and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights
in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made
two great lights (sun on day one); the greater light to rule the day, and (4)the lesser light to rule the night:
(1)he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it
was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThen what was it that God created in the beginning
The first dayHelp me to understand your view may be I am wrong ?
T,God created the physical laws of light; as there was no light but him previously. All was darkness and night. The Sun is just a source of light.
Since there was no Sun the night/day cycle was not speaking of the night/day cycle of Earth.
Hi Kerwin,You can't have a “Day One” without “A Sun” and an axis rotation
on the Earth; that is described in the terms “day” and “Night”.Dividing the light from the darkness is merely an awkward
way to say… and God put the earth into an axis rotation.But there is a spiritual message here as well:
The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters,
(waters being: people languages and tongues: Rev.17:15)
And God did divide 'spiritual darkness' from the children of light.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Reason for edit: to add parenthesesQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,20:27) The “Sun” was also created on Day 1, and along with
the earth, the rotation of the earth on its axis began.4. Creation of our Sun
5. Axis rotation of Earth
No comprehendo. You appear to say both Day 1 and 4.Quote (t8 @ Jan. 15 2013,20:09) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,20:27) The “Sun” was also created on Day 1, and along with
the earth, the rotation of the earth on its axis began.Creation of our Sun
Axis rotation of Earth
No comprehendo. You appear to say both Day 1 and 4.
Hi T8,What was created on day 1:
1. Creation of our Sun
2. Axis rotation of EarthAnd God said,
(1)Let there be light (The Sun): and there
was light . And God saw the light, that it was good: and
(2)God divided the light from the darkness (Axis rotation – “Spin”).1) “Let there be light” can be interpreted to mean “Sun BE”, and it was so.
2) “God divided the light from the darkness” can be interpreted to mean:
And God said: “Earth SPIN”, and the earth began to rotate (24HR).On day 4, God reiterates the creation of the sun (Day 1) with the creation the moon (Day 4)
(The moon is for tides in the ocean, essential for marine animals: an upgrade.)
(I'm going to embellish the story a bit for your entertainment).God then decided he wanted bazillion more combinations (Sun / Earth, ect.),
so he put the heavens into an ever increasing expanse (ref. Isaiah 40:22),
and made all kinds of suns and planets which we call Galaxies (point #3).But before he did that, first he put the Earth into orbit around the sun (point #4),
afterwards he added the axes tilt of the earth (point #5) for the advent of seasons.
(THEN, he put all the planetary systems into a gravity torsion fields A.K.A. black holes.)
The firmament, which is the earth's atmosphere, was created on day 2. (O2, H2O, ect, ect.)What was created on day 4:
3. Stars
4. The axis tilt of the Earth
5. Orbit around the Sun
6. The moon“And God said, Let there be (3)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let THEM
(3) The newly created stars) be for signs, (4)and for seasons, and for days(day 1), (5)and years: And let them
be for lights in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God
made two great lights; the greater light (sun on day 1) to rule the day, and (6)the (moon) lesser light to rule
the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the
earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God
saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,11:55) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,09:56) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,07:26) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,11:35) Hi Pierre, 1. Stars
2. Orbit around the Sun
3. The axis tilt of the Earth
4. The moon“And God said, Let there be (1)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be (2)for signs, (3)and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights
in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made
two great lights (sun on day one); the greater light to rule the day, and (4)the lesser light to rule the night:
(1)he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it
was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThen what was it that God created in the beginning
The first dayHelp me to understand your view may be I am wrong ?
T,God created the physical laws of light; as there was no light but him previously. All was darkness and night. The Sun is just a source of light.
Since there was no Sun the night/day cycle was not speaking of the night/day cycle of Earth.
kIT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE ;
1)Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth;
WHAT DOES THIS SAYwhat does it mean ;IN THE BEGINNING
IS THIS NOT THE BEGINNING OF CREATION OF THE PHYSICAL WORLD then says ;;create the HEAVEN ,tell me what his the HEAVEN
and what his the EARTH
2) then upon a visit to the earth God sees what ???Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
what his the spirit of God that was hovering over the waters
and why not over land 3)Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.what type of light was it that was created then
why was the light separated from darkness
and what his darkness
so that it can be separated from the light any ideas
T,Darkness is the absence of light.
God separated the light from the darkness by laying down the laws and so making a distinction. That is why it is also written “God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night”
On the 4th day he did the same for the earth.
According Genesis 1 earth did not have a night and day until the forth day. In fact there was no stars, sun, or moon prior to the 4th day. The 24 hour night/day period we know today first existed on day 4.
kso according to you God did not create the changes on earth in six days right
because a repetition means a void day like 2 in one right
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,21:53) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,11:55) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,09:56) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,07:26) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,11:35) Hi Pierre, 1. Stars
2. Orbit around the Sun
3. The axis tilt of the Earth
4. The moon“And God said, Let there be (1)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be (2)for signs, (3)and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights
in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made
two great lights (sun on day one); the greater light to rule the day, and (4)the lesser light to rule the night:
(1)he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it
was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThen what was it that God created in the beginning
The first dayHelp me to understand your view may be I am wrong ?
T,God created the physical laws of light; as there was no light but him previously. All was darkness and night. The Sun is just a source of light.
Since there was no Sun the night/day cycle was not speaking of the night/day cycle of Earth.
kIT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE ;
1)Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth;
WHAT DOES THIS SAYwhat does it mean ;IN THE BEGINNING
IS THIS NOT THE BEGINNING OF CREATION OF THE PHYSICAL WORLD then says ;;create the HEAVEN ,tell me what his the HEAVEN
and what his the EARTH
2) then upon a visit to the earth God sees what ???Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
what his the spirit of God that was hovering over the waters
and why not over land 3)Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.what type of light was it that was created then
why was the light separated from darkness
and what his darkness
so that it can be separated from the light any ideas
T,Darkness is the absence of light.
God separated the light from the darkness by laying down the laws and so making a distinction. That is why it is also written “God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night”
On the 4th day he did the same for the earth.
According Genesis 1 earth did not have a night and day until the forth day. In fact there was no stars, sun, or moon prior to the 4th day. The 24 hour night/day period we know today first existed on day 4.
kso according to you God did not create the changes on earth in six days right
because a repetition means a void day like 2 in one right
T,According to what Scripture reads God assigned Day and Night before he assigned day and night to the earth. Creation is dated by three first kind of Days and Nights and not by the later as three Days and Nights had passed before day and night were assigned to earth.
I do not know the length of a Day and a Night. I do know that Paul teaches us there still remains a Sabbath rest, Hebrews 4:9, while Jesus teaches us that Jehovah is at work to this very day, John 5:17.
I do not follow the idea of a void age. I am just pointing out that Scripture has a Day and Night that occurred before earth has one.
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,12:02) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,12:26) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,11:35) Hi Pierre, 1. Stars
2. Orbit around the Sun
3. The axis tilt of the Earth
4. The moon“And God said, Let there be (1)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be (2)for signs, (3)and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights
in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made
two great lights (sun on day one); the greater light to rule the day, and (4)the lesser light to rule the night:
(1)he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it
was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThen what was it that God created in the beginning
The first dayHelp me to understand your view may be I am wrong ?
T,God created the physical laws of light; as there was no light but him previously. All was darkness and night. The Sun is just a source of light.
Since there was no Sun the night/day cycle was not speaking of the night/day cycle of Earth.
Hi Kerwin,You can't have a “Day One” without “A Sun” and an axis rotation
on the Earth; that is described in the terms “day” and “Night”.Dividing the light from the darkness is merely an awkward
way to say… and God put the earth into an axis rotation.But there is a spiritual message here as well:
The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters,
(waters being: people languages and tongues: Rev.17:15)
And God did divide 'spiritual darkness' from the children of light.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Reason for edit: to add parentheses
Ed J.,Darkness is the absence of light. If you do not have all is darkness. The moon has a day and night that is the same as its rotation as it tidally locked. Just as the moon is another place so there are other places with there own day and night. There is a place that has been in existence before the Sun, the moon, and the stars were created that had a Day and a Night.
This place may have only been in the mind of God and so have no physical existence as of yet. That is a hypothesis.
We are told that Jehovah made the Sun, moon, and stars, on the forth day.
There is no Sun on the first day.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2013,05:15) Ed J., We are told that Jehovah made the Sun, moon, and stars, on the forth day.
Day 1: The Sun is created.“And God said, Let there be light: and there was (The Sun) light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light
from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the arkness
he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”(Gen 1:3-5)
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,23:49) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,21:53) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,11:55) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2013,09:56) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,07:26) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,11:35) Hi Pierre, 1. Stars
2. Orbit around the Sun
3. The axis tilt of the Earth
4. The moon“And God said, Let there be (1)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be (2)for signs, (3)and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights
in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made
two great lights (sun on day one); the greater light to rule the day, and (4)the lesser light to rule the night:
(1)he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it
was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThen what was it that God created in the beginning
The first dayHelp me to understand your view may be I am wrong ?
T,God created the physical laws of light; as there was no light but him previously. All was darkness and night. The Sun is just a source of light.
Since there was no Sun the night/day cycle was not speaking of the night/day cycle of Earth.
kIT SEEMS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE ;
1)Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth;
WHAT DOES THIS SAYwhat does it mean ;IN THE BEGINNING
IS THIS NOT THE BEGINNING OF CREATION OF THE PHYSICAL WORLD then says ;;create the HEAVEN ,tell me what his the HEAVEN
and what his the EARTH
2) then upon a visit to the earth God sees what ???Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
what his the spirit of God that was hovering over the waters
and why not over land 3)Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.what type of light was it that was created then
why was the light separated from darkness
and what his darkness
so that it can be separated from the light any ideas
T,Darkness is the absence of light.
God separated the light from the darkness by laying down the laws and so making a distinction. That is why it is also written “God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night”
On the 4th day he did the same for the earth.
According Genesis 1 earth did not have a night and day until the forth day. In fact there was no stars, sun, or moon prior to the 4th day. The 24 hour night/day period we know today first existed on day 4.
kso according to you God did not create the changes on earth in six days right
because a repetition means a void day like 2 in one right
T,According to what Scripture reads God assigned Day and Night before he assigned day and night to the earth. Creation is dated by three first kind of Days and Nights and not by the later as three Days and Nights had passed before day and night were assigned to earth.
I do not know the length of a Day and a Night. I do know that Paul teaches us there still remains a Sabbath rest, Hebrews 4:9, while Jesus teaches us that Jehovah is at work to this very day, John 5:17.
I do not follow the idea of a void age. I am just pointing out that Scripture has a Day and Night that occurred before earth has one.
Kyou are confused ,and do not understand creation ,or try to make with creation what should not be don
e like imagine things ,first you do not answer all my questions and only feed me back with your weak understanding
please study creation and we talk some more
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 16 2013,00:33) No Sun, NO DAY!
edjwrong ,it is an yes ,sun as nothing to do with it
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,12:02) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2013,12:26) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,11:35) Hi Pierre, 1. Stars
2. Orbit around the Sun
3. The axis tilt of the Earth
4. The moon“And God said, Let there be (1)lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be (2)for signs, (3)and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights
in the firmament(atmosphere) of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made
two great lights (sun on day one); the greater light to rule the day, and (4)the lesser light to rule the night:
(1)he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it
was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” (Genesis 1:14-19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjThen what was it that God created in the beginning
The first dayHelp me to understand your view may be I am wrong ?
T,God created the physical laws of light; as there was no light but him previously. All was darkness and night. The Sun is just a source of light.
Since there was no Sun the night/day cycle was not speaking of the night/day cycle of Earth.
Hi Kerwin,You can't have a “Day One” without “A Sun” and an axis rotation
on the Earth; that is described in the terms “day” and “Night”.Dividing the light from the darkness is merely an awkward
way to say… and God put the earth into an axis rotation.But there is a spiritual message here as well:
The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters,
(waters being: people languages and tongues: Rev.17:15)
And God did divide 'spiritual darkness' from the children of light.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Reason for edit: to add parentheses
Ed J.You are stuck on the idea that the Sun of earth is necessary for day and night to exist when that is not so. A planet of Alpha Centauri would have a day and a night even though it is not the Sun or the Moon that rules them.
God has his throne in heaven and not on earth. It is that Night and Day he would go by before that of earth's. I conclude using the circumstantial evidence we have addressed so far that the Nights and Days spoken as the seven days are those of heaven and not those of earth.
I do know that at least the idea of the Sun was created on the fourth Night and Day and not the First.
Note: I accidentally answered the same post with two equivalent answers. There are some additional points and so I choose to leave it.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,04:18) K you are confused ,and do not understand creation ,or try to make with creation what should not be done like imagine things ,
first you do not answer all my questions and only feed me back with your weak understanding
please study creation and we talk some more
T,I am learning as we converse. I consider what we are discussing applying what information I have learned to what I am hearing.
I am not imagining anything anything as you can see from Scripture that
1) God created light-that infers he also created the laws governing light.
2) Among these laws is that God declared light and dark different by calling dark Night and light Day.
3) The Sun, or idea of such, did not exist until the fourth Night and Day.
4) It was on the fourth Day and Night that God declared light and dark different for earth and placed the Sun in authority of the day.There is the earth and the heavens. What is not earth is heavens and what is not heavens is earth. Only God can exist outside of creation. Heavens on the First Night and Day is not the firmament; as the atmosphere and space is created on the second night and day.
Since Night and Day existed before the stars, moon, or Sun were created on the fourth Night and Day and the earth has no night and day yet it is the Night and Day of a place that is not earth. The place that is not earth is called the heavens and they are where God has his throne.
So looking at the evidence it seems clear that God is going by his Nights and Days and not those of the earth.
As for your other questions, I cannot see their relevance to this discussion as of yet.
Kerwin.
Have you ever heard of the NEBULAE?
Where suns and planets are born?When the earth was without form and void; this is when
the the earth is starting to form into a planet,but the dark clouds are still surrounding the earth.Once the clouds has cleared the light appeared.
This is the first day, and the earth was a water earth.
Untill God made the land to appear.The sun and the stars were the first to form inside the nebulae.
God did not create the sun and the stars on the fouth day. That was just a summation of his creation.Its a repeat.The fouth day he saw that it was good.
( I know its a bit odd but could be for a purpose).The light is the sun,not some heavenly light. read verse 16. the sun to rule the day, and the moon to rule the night. And the stars as for signs.
The herbs can not grow without light.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,17:55) Kerwin. Have you ever heard of the NEBULAE?
Where suns and planets are born?When the earth was without form and void; this is when
the the earth is starting to form into a planet,but the dark clouds are still surrounding the earth.Once the clouds has cleared the light appeared.
This is the first day, and the earth was a water earth.
Untill God made the land to appear.The sun and the stars were the first to form inside the nebulae.
God did not create the sun and the stars on the fouth day. That was just a summation of his creation.Its a repeat.The fouth day he saw that it was good.
( I know its a bit odd but could be for a purpose).The light is the sun,not some heavenly light. read verse 16. the sun to rule the day, and the moon to rule the night. And the stars as for signs.
The herbs can not grow without light.
wakeup.
Wakeup,Nebulae are seen as stars since they can not be distinguished from suns by the naked eye at the great distance they are from earth. They too are created on the fourth Day and Night.
We are taught that the “earth” is created formless and void while those that serve the god of Science believe that the earth and Sun formed from small parts. Even in their doctrine the earth exists before the Sun grows large enough to ignite. These same priests hold that the moon was added after the earth came to be.
Since God states that the Sun, moon, and stars were created on the fourth Night and Day then in some manner they were no matter what the priest of the god of science claim.
Is God still making suns and planets or is his work on creation done? The priests of the god of science claim that suns and planets are still being made. But according to Scripture the stars, many which are far away, were visible on the fourth Night and Day. I mention this to show that apparently God created the universe as a place that is already in action in which things appear older than they really are.
The situation is that God may just be laying down the laws of creation and not the the fulfillment of them; for example light. It also explains how plants that are created on the third Night and Day thrived and covered the earth even though the Sun had not yet been created.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2013,17:38) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,12:02)
Hi Kerwin,You can't have a “Day One” without “A Sun” and an axis rotation
on the Earth; that is described in the terms “day” and “Night”.Dividing the light from the darkness is merely an awkward
way to say… and God put the earth into an axis rotation.But there is a spiritual message here as well:
The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters,
(waters being: people languages and tongues: Rev.17:15)
And God did divide 'spiritual darkness' from the children of light.God bless
Ed J
Ed J.You are stuck on the idea that the Sun of earth is necessary for day and night to exist when that is not so.
A planet of Alpha Centauri would have a day and a night even though it is not the Sun or the Moon that rules them.
Hi Kerwin,Really?
Describe the mechanism, by what mechanism is this achieved?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2013,17:38) Ed J. I do know that at least the idea of the Sun was created on the fourth Night and Day and not the First.
Hi Kerwin,Please do show how you have concluded this?
An explanation here is certainly in order as well.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2013,00:53) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2013,17:38) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,12:02)
Hi Kerwin,You can't have a “Day One” without “A Sun” and an axis rotation
on the Earth; that is described in the terms “day” and “Night”.Dividing the light from the darkness is merely an awkward
way to say… and God put the earth into an axis rotation.But there is a spiritual message here as well:
The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters,
(waters being: people languages and tongues: Rev.17:15)
And God did divide 'spiritual darkness' from the children of light.God bless
Ed J
Ed J.You are stuck on the idea that the Sun of earth is necessary for day and night to exist when that is not so.
A planet of Alpha Centauri would have a day and a night even though it is not the Sun or the Moon that rules them.
Hi Kerwin,Really?
Describe the mechanism, by what mechanism is this achieved?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J.The Sun and the Moon are the Earth's sun and moon. A planet of Alpha Centaurus would have its own sun(s) and moon(s).
Do you accept the idea that the highest heaven can have its own night and day?
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