Exposing the king james bi” bel.

[NickHassan]

Quote (david @ Sep. 14 2005,03:53)

Oh, Nick, and of course, heavenly destiny for men. How do you comprehend Phil 3:20, Eph 2:6; col 3:1? David on the net!  Yay.  Look at me.

Hi david,
Phil 3.20.coll3.1,Eph 26.
We are now citizens in heaven sitting with Christ at the Right hand of Power[if we are born again][coll3.1]We await Yeshua FROM there.

[Eliyah]

Nick, I think you need to do “” the pin test “”.

Stick yourself with a needle, if you go “” OUCH “”, then you have not been “” born again “” by a “” change “” or a “” resurrection “” to have a Spiritual body yet( 1 Cor.15–).

Ha, Ha, Ha,:laugh:

[NickHassan]

Hi e,
Have you not yet died?
Jn12.24f
“..unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies it remains alone;but if it dies it bears much fruit. He who loves his life loses it and he who hates his life in this world will keep it to life eternal. If anyone serves me he must follow me”
Rom 6.3
” or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into his death? Therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we toomight walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of his resurrection, knowing this that our old self was crucified with him in order that our body of sin might be done away with so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin”

[Eliyah]

Yes, spiritual speaking as Paul was, but Paul was not talking about “” being born again “” by merely believing Yahshua is the Messiah, as You and traditional christianity teaches.

You will not be completely “” BORN AGAIN “” until you are “” BORN ” from Human flesh to a Spirit being”( 1 Cor.15:50-54).

You can ONLY be ” BEGOTTEN “” as of yet.

Why don't you go and learn some Greek and English, then maybe, you will be abel to understand scriptural words, and STOP mimiking traditional christianity?

[NickHassan]

Hi e,
“spiritually speaking” is the last refuge of the false doctrine defenders.

Are you born of Yahweh?You should be.
1Jn 2.29
“If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone also who practices righteousness is born of Him”
1Jn3 .9
” No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him.””
1Jn 4.7
“..everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God for God is love”
1Jn 5.4
” For whoever is born of God overcomes the world;..”

This is now eliyah.

[Eliyah]

Nick, You just did commit “” sin “” when you wrote that pagan Idolatry word of '' “.

And YHWH COMMANDS YOU TO NOT DO THAT!

SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW( 1 John 3:4), and you just now violated YAHWEH'S LAW( Exod.20:2-7; Exod.23:13;).

You don't even know what “sin ” really is as does christianity does not either.

What are you, some kind of idiot?

[NickHassan]

Hi e,
Please do not continue to waste your bilious judgements on us. We already have a judge who knows love and mercy.

[Eliyah]

You judged yourself with your own words.

What is your motives for running this forum? MONEY?

Evidently you don't care about TRUTH of scriptures, because you want even look up the original words that i have already given in my posts in this forum.

Like the Bareans of Acts??

Your a joke Nick.

[NickHassan]

Quote (Eliyah @ Sep. 14 2005,08:06)

You judged yourself with your own words. What is your motives for running this forum? MONEY? Evidently you don't care about TRUTH of scriptures, because you want even look up the original words that i have already given in my posts in this forum. Like the Bareans of Acts?? Your a joke Nick.

Hi e,
It is my privelege to contribute finance to help run this forum. For that I am able to learn from men of every perspective and background, storing up knowledge and pondering some matters.
We suffer some considerable abuse and condemnatory judgements from men en route but that is nothing. The spirit of antichrist still hates the truth and those who share it.
I am just a poor servant trying to gain favour with my master by using what he has given me to shine light on his words and point towards safety for any who are interested. If they have their debt reduced it is my gain.
Most of my life I have rather pursued selfish ends but as I see the approach of twilight I hope to be of use and be found working at my given task when he returns.

[BrandonIke]

eliyah, i found your website for real. http://www.elyah.freeservers.com/about.html

you spelled “surprise” wrong as “supprise”: “…scriptures to be false, and to my supprise…”

i sent you an email yesterday, did you read it?

[OneSpirit]

Eliyah,

While I commend your efforts in trying to honor the Father by avoiding all traces of paganism, I do wonder how far you believe one should take this.

For example, calling the Creator by a different name other than His own is clearly objectionable, but is it really possible to avoid all utterances of pagan religious words when we are speaking a language derived from pagan tongues?

Taken to its logical conclusion, what you advocate seems to suggest that we should cease speaking English altogether and learn Hebrew instead.  In less than ten minutes, I “googled” the pagan origins of the English language and came across a minefield of words which one would have to avoid if he were concernced with speaking in terms derived from pagan worship.  Here they are:

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From: http://www.westegg.com/etymology/ Freedom This comes from German (literal, modern-day translation, “Freiheit”), but is actually closer in derivation to the German word “Friede”, which means “peace” and is a word of pre-Christian, Germanic origin (originally “Frith”). The archaic term was used to signify the period following the termination of a bloodfeud between two Germanic clans when the softer, feminine qualities of the god “Freda” or “Frita” held sway. To achieve such a peace, some consideration had to given up on the part of the clan whose member had committed the most recent wrong against another clan, such as a certain quantity of meat or animal hides. What was given up was called “Bot” (delivered good) or “Botschaft” (literally delivered shank (of meat), but currently is the modern German word for “message”). It is interesting to note that this is from where we get the English term “boat” (Apparently, as time went on, the term was used less to describe what was being delivered and more to describe the deliverer or means of delivery–Hence, the modern German words “Bote” (messenger) and “Boot” (boat–which can be visualized as a means of delivering something or someone)). Nemesis From the Greek of the same, originally meant, “the act of distributing or apportioning” and later became, “(divine) wrath and retribution, righteous indignation at the breach of rules.” Nemesis was a deity who restores a balance. Were a bunch of shipmakers to launch a vessel without saluting the gods, for instance, this act of hubris might call forth a counter-reaction, as we saw with the Titanic. There was no judgmentalism or divine punishment involved, simply a response from the other world to lapses occurring in this one. Wine Comes from the Greek word for wine, oinos (Cretan dialect), which itself was taken from the name of the Greek god who was supposed to have first revealed the secret of wine to the ancient Cretans, Dionysus (Pronounce it without the “Di.”). Witness From the pre-Christian, Germanic term “witan”, which means wise, tribal elders (literally, those who follow the way of the Norse god “Wodin” or “Odin”). From: http://www.kl.oakland.edu/kraemer/edcm/contents.html arachnid n [NL Arachnida, fr. Gk arachne spider, assoc. with the myth of Arachne, a Greek maiden who was turned into a spider after pridefully defeating Athena in a weaving contest] : any of a class (Arachnida) of arthropods comprising chiefly invertebrates, including spiders, scorpions, mites, etc. capitol n  [L Capitolium, temple of Jupiter at Rome on the Capitoline hill] : a building in which a state legislative body meets cereal n  [F or L; F cereale, fr. L ceralis of Ceres, of grain, fr. Ceres, goddess of agriculture] : a prepared foodstuff of grain east n [ME est, fr. OE east, L aurora dawn, Gk eos, heos; personified by Eos, the Greek goddess of dawn] : a cardinal point of the compass echo n [ultim. fr. Gk Echo, a nymph who pines away for love of Narcissus until nothing is left of her but her voice] 1 : the repetition of a sound caused by reflection of sound waves 2 : one who closely imitates or repeats another's words, ideas, or acts flora n (also floral adj)      [NL, fr. L Flora, Roman goddess of flowers, fr. L flor-, flos] : plant or bacterial life giant n      [ME giaunt, fr. OE geant, fr. L gigas, fr. Gk. a legendary humanlike being of great stature and strength] 1 a : a living being of great size b : a person of extraordinary powers 2 : something unusually large or powerful hector n [L, fr. Gk Hektor, Trojan champion slain by Achilles] 1 : bully, braggart 2 : to play the bully : to intimidate by bluster or personal pressure helium n [NL, fr. Gk helios sun, personified by the god of the sun Helios] : a light, colorless gaseous element hermaphrodite n [ME hermofrodite, fr L hermaphroditus, fr. Gk hermaphroditos, fr. Hermaphroditos, the son of Aphrodite and Hermes who merged into one form with the nymph Salmacis] : an animal or plant bearing both male and female reproductive organs hermeneutics n [Gr hermeneutikos, from the the name of the Greek god Hermes, god of science, commerce, cunning, and eloquence] : the art or science of the interpretation of literature hyacinth n [L hyacinthus a flowering plant, fr. Gk hyakinthos, which according to mythology comes from the name of Hyacinthus, a youth loved by Apollo, who grows this flower in memoriam from the boy's blood after accidentally killing him] : a bulbous herb (Hyacinthus orientalis) of the lily family grown for its dense spikes of fragrant flowers hydra n [L, fr. Gk hydra water serpent, a water serpent in classical mythology with nine heads, each of which, if cut off, would grow back as two] 1 : any fresh-water polyp of the genus Hydra 2 : a persistent or many-sided problem that presents new obstacles as soon as one aspect is solved hygiene n [NL hygieina, fr. Gk hygieinos, fr. hygies, poss. fr. Hygeia Hygeia, the Greek goddess of health] 1 : a science of the establishment and maintenance of health 2 : conditions or practices conducive to health hymn n [ME ymne, fr. OE ymen, fr. L hymnus song of praise, fr. Gk hymnos; assoc. with Polyhymnia, the Muse of mime] 1 : a song of praise to God 2 : a song of praise or joy hypnosis n [fr. Gk hypnos sleep, assoc. with Hypnos, the Greek god of sleep] : an artificially induced condition resembling sleep iris n  [ME, fr. L irid-, iris rainbow, iris plant, fr. Gk Iris Iris, goddess of the rainbow and messenger of the gods] 1 : rainbow 2 : the opaque contractile diaphragm perforated by the pupil and forming the colored portion of the eye Jove n        [L Jov-, Juppiter Jupiter, the most powerful Roman god] : often used interjectionally to express surprise or agreement esp. in the phrase by Jove   jovial adj (derived from Jove)      markedly good-humored medicine n [ME, fr. OF, fr. L medicina, fr. medicus (sugg. that it is fr. L Medea, fr. Gk Medeia an enchantress in Greek mythology)] : the science and art dealing with the maintenance of health mnemonic adj [Gk mnemonikos, fr. mnemon mindful, fr. Gk Mnemosyne, the Greek goddess of memory and mother by Zeus of the nine Muses] : assisting memory morphine n [F, fr. L Morpheus, fr. Gk, Greek god of dreams] : a bitter crystalline addictive narcotic used in the form of a soluble salt as an analgesic and sedative muse n [ME, fr. L Musa, fr. Gk Mousa the nine sister goddesses in Greek mythology presiding over song and poetry and the arts and sciences] 1 : a source of inspiration 2 : poet museum n [L Museum place for learned occupation, fr. Gk Mouseion, fr. neut. of Mouseios of the Muses, fr. Mousa] : an institution devoted to th e procurement, care, study, and display of objects of lasting interest or value music n [ME musik, fr. OF musique, fr. L musica, fr. Gk mousike any art presided over by the Muses, esp. music, fr. fem. of mousikos of the Muses, fr. Mousa Muse] : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having rhythm, melody, or harmony night n [ME, fr. OE niht, L noct-, nox, Gk nykt-, nyx night; assoc. with the Greek god of night, Nyx] : the time from dusk til dawn when no sun is visible ocean n      [ME occean, fr. L oceanus, fr. Gk Okeanos, a Titan who rules over the river that encircles the earth in Greek mythology] 1 a : the whole body of salt water that covers nearly three fourths of the surface of the globe b : any of the large bodies of water into which the great ocean is divided 2 : a very large or unlimited space or quantity   panic adj [F panique, fr. Gk panikos, lit., of Pan, fr. Pan, a Greek god of pastures, flocks, and shepherds usu. represented as having the legs, horns, and ears of a goat] 1 : of, relating to, or resembling the mental or emotional state believed induced by the god Pan 2 : of, relating to, or arising from a panic salutary adj [MF salutaire, fr. L salutaris, fr. salus health, or Salus the Roman goddess of health] 1 : producing a beneficial effect 2 : promoting health, a curative siren n [ME sereyn, fr. OF sereine, fr. L Siren, fr. Gk Serein Siren, one of several mythological Greek sea nymphs, part woman and part bird, supposed to lure sailors to their destruction by their seductive singing] 1 a : a woman who sings with bewitching sweetness b : temptress 2 a : an apparatus producing musical tones b : a device often electrically operated for producing a penetrating warning sound stamina n [L, pl. of stamen warp, thread of life spun by the Fates] : staying power, endurance tantalize v [fr. L Tantalus a Phrygian king who for his crimes was condemned to remain in Tartarus, standing, thirsty and hungry, chin-deep in water with fruit-laden branches hanging above his head; whenever he tried to drink the water level would recede, and when he tried to eat the fruit would rise out of reach] : to tease or torment by presenting something desirable to view but keeping it continually out of reach tempest n [fr. L tempestas season, weather, storm, personified in Roman mythology as the goddesses of the storm, the Tempestates] 1 : a violent storm 2 : a violent disturbance, commotion triumph [ME triumphe, fr. L triumphus; cf. Gk thriambos Dionysiac procession] n 1 : the act of being victorious 2 : a significant success v 3 : to gain a victory 4 : to be successful trivia n [fr. L trivialis belonging to the crossroads, (hence) common; assoc. with Trivia, or Hecate, the Roman goddess of the crossroads] : matters or things that are very unimportant or inconsequential venerate v [L veneratus, fr. vener-, venus love, sexual desire; assoc. with Venus, the Roman goddess of love and beauty, equiv. to the Greek Aphrodite] : to honor (as an icon) with a ritual act of devotion volcanic adj [fr. L Volcanus, var. of Vulcanus Vulcan, the ancient Roman god of fire and metalworking, identified with the Greek Hephaestus] 1 : of or pertaining to volcanoes 2 : discharged from or produced by volcanoes 3 : suggestive of a volcano: potentially explosive, volatile zeal n [fr. L zel(us), fr. Gk zelos fervor; personified in Greek mythology as Zelos, the god of zeal or emulation; brother of Nike] : fervor for a person, cause, or object; eager desire or endeavor; enthusiastic diligence zephyr n [ME Zephirus west wind (personified), fr. L Zephyrus, god of the west wind, fr. Gk Zephyros, Greek god of the west wind] 1 : a breeze from the west 2 : any of various lightweight fabrics and articles of clothing

I am sure there are many others.

Tell me plainly: do you plan to avoid the pagan words above now too, or have I misunderstood your beliefs?

[NickHassan]

Thank you OS,
Human Perfectionism does not serve our loving Father.

[Eliyah]

OneSpirit,

All those ” words ” are not of the True Creator YHWH, but this is about substituting and replacing HIS NAME with pagan idol image title deities.

And every pagan word should be removed from our lips within connection to YHWH, and our worship of Him, because He ONLY accepts those who worship in spirit and in TRUTH( John 4:23-24).

“” THY WORD IS TRUTH”( John 17:17).

And those who have been warned of this, which who know this truth, and hold it back in unrighteousness, will receive Yah's Wrath( Rom.1:18).

Everyone is now being warned of this world's religious system's continued satanic worship( Rev.9:20; Rev.13:3-4, 8) by practicing Idolatry through syncretisim, and through satan's deception( Rev.12:9).

That choice and descision is yours, who do you choose to worship and serve, whether the TRUE FATHER Yah( John 17:11), or the false ” father ” satan the devil( John 8:44)???

Eliyah C.

[david]

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

It seems there is a lot of stone throwing and name calling going on here.

By their fruits you will recognize such men.

[Eliyah]

Yes, that's ONE of my websites BrandonIke.

I also have 2 more websites, and yes anyone can make mistakes in writing English, as I can fluently use 4 different languages, and sometimes a person can make a slip of the keyboard, especially when a person is thinking in other language writing skills.

I don't claim to be perfect, and not make mistakes in writing sometimes.

I received your e-mail from today concerning another forum, did you receive my e-mail back to you?

Eliyah C.

[david]

Elijah, on your website, you said something to the effect of:
“I have studied into many of this worlds religious denominations, and sad to say, that most of them are false in their worship and doctrines according to scriptures.”

Most of them, or all of them? And if only most of them as you say, which ones aren't false in your opinion.

Also, I'm wondering which 4 languages you speak?

[Eliyah]

David, I still mean that too, because MOST ALL are false, and false teachings.

Most ALL worship the devil( Rev.13:3-4, 8) by satan's deception( Rev.12:9).

David, you seem to be a little dis-traut, is it because you cannot answer those questions in the ” Baal Gad Topic “??

Maybe, you should copy that post of mine with a Printer, and take it to your “” ministry school “” to let them answer those questions?

Ha, Ha, Ha,

[david]

I DID ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ELIJAH. SAY, DID YOU EVER ANSWER MINE.

NOOOOPE.

[david]

You didn't even answer my last question in that last post of yours. You said that “most of them are false.”

So…which ones aren't?

You tried to reshape what you said and again shifted your responce to me.
You didn't answer my question.

AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION about how you will possibly reach any significant number of people with your “warning” message.

[Eliyah]

You NEVER answered those questions David, but I did repost them at the last post, please let's go, OK?

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