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Hi brandonike,
So politics is the way for you? I thought you would want to follow the meek master who did not even judge the fierce oppressive Romans for occupying their land, destroying them and their places of worship and conniving in his own death.His kingdom is not of this world.
Yes BrandonIke, Yah did draw the line by SAYING TO TEAR DOWN THEIR PAGAN ALTERS OF WORSHIP, just as you have actually said above!
That is A Command of YHWH in the scriptures to expose them and tear their paganism apart, and this whole world is practicing this today, and this will result in Yah's Last plaques judgement because of such a lawless society that really worships satan( Rev.9:20; Rev.12:9; Rev.13:3-4,8).
The more people that realize this, the more people will be interested in exposing and correcting a false society.
Eliyah C.
i didn't say politics is the way for me. i said it would take a lot to change politics.
eliyah, i meant no line drawn to distinguish between enemy lines or friendly lines in war. anywhere, anytime paganism must be destroyed.
on 9/12/2005, 08:02 david asked “where do we draw the line?”
he was wondering if it was ok to remove pagan names on one side, and let pagan names go freely on the other side of the line. i said there should be no line, but paganism must be destroyed on either side. it doesn't matter which side the paganism is on the line.
i should have said “of” the line instead of “on” the line. is there an editing feature? sometimes, i make simple mistakes.
Yes, You are correct as also says the scriptures too!
Yes, BrandonIke your right on the target!
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Quote he was wondering if it was ok to remove pagan names on one side, and let pagan names go freely on the other side of the line. i said there should be no line, but paganism must be destroyed on either side. it doesn't matter which side the paganism is on the line. Yes,!
This is what i've been trying to expose in the forums on the internet, to let people know that they have been fooled by satan as to what's been going on by such deception of pagan practices.
Eliyah C.
Elijah,
Christmas and Easter clearly are of pagan origin based on lies and do clearly go against many Scriptural principals. I have researched both extensively. I spent literally years researching Christmas and have written several large documents on it. I'm still looking into this baal=lord, gad=god thing. I have found very little information on it other than what you say.1 JOHN 4:1
“Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.”1 THESS 5:21
“Make sure of all things…”This is what I'm doing. While I definitely am going to look seriously into this, Freuds famous words keep popping into my head: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Back to my question then.
Elijah wrote:
“All people have to do is read about ALL THE DEMONIC WICKEDNESS and lawlessness during the time of Noah, which is what brought on their destruction.
[Do] people really kid themselves that things are not already getting to a similar situation today???”So my question again: If there are precious few of you who know what you know, and if we are so close to that similar situation of Noah's day, which will end in destruction, how will they hear?
How will they hear without someone to preach?
Does not everyone deserve to hear this if it is true?dave
Elijah said:
“Now, what is required to have Eternal Life according to Messiah Himself ?”I don't know. What does John 17:3 say Elijah? That is after all what the book was highlighting.
The title of that book was: “Knowledge that leads to everlasting life.”
It was based primarlily on John 17:3 which should be obvious from the title.
The scipture in Matthew you mentioned has been gone over several times in several magazines and other books. I didn't know they had to put every scripture about everlasting life in that book. I'll inform them of this oversight immediately.dave.
David,
it is just like BrandonIke said, there IS NO LINE when it comes to paganism, it must be removed from BOTH sides of the fence, because a little leaven, leavens the whole lump.
Then, why don't YOU and the JWs just go back to observing the pagan “” Christmas and Easter “” too???
You said “”
Quote So my question again: If there are precious few of you who know what you know, and if we are so close to that similar situation of Noah's day, which will end in destruction, how will they hear?
How will they hear without someone to preach?
Does not everyone deserve to hear this if it is true?Yes, and it is being preached.
Shaul( Paul) asked the same questions concerning Yahweh's True Name in( Rom.10:9-15).
How shall the common people CALL ON HIS ( Yah's ) true Name, and believe in Him, if they have never even heard His true name??
Whosoever SHALL CALL ON THE NAME( not pagan titles) OF YAH( Psalms 68:4)WEH SHALL BE SAVED( Joel 2:32; Acts 2:21; Rom.10:13).
Who will call on His true Name to be saved?
Eliyah C.
Yes Elijah, I was asking you that question. And you responded by quoting the scripture I was thinking of when I asked you that question.
You didn't answer my question at all.You also said:
“it is just like BrandonIke said, there IS NO LINE when it comes to paganism, it must be removed from BOTH sides of the fence, because a little leaven, leavens the whole lump.
Then, why don't YOU and the JWs just go back to observing the pagan “” Christmas and Easter “” too???”Once again, you've jumped way too far. My question was: Where do you draw the line? Most everything has some pagan background if you do enough research. Are you married? Do you wear a wedding band? Is that helping you keep bad spirits away? Do you avoid using the word Saturday because it's the day of a diety? What about the other days? What of the months?
While being no part of the world, we can't actually get out of the world.There is no mixing of paganism with true Christianity, just as there should be no mixing with fornicators, yet we have to be reasonable.
1 Cor 5:9,10
“In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world.”Thing is Elijah. We're trapped in this world.
David, we are in the world, but we are not to play along with it and practice its pagan ways, and neither ingrain it in our lives and charactor, but rather expose such wicked practices.
That is the PROBLEM with traditional christianity today, they have tolarated it for so long, that even they are practicing the same as the world does, and now a person cannot tell the difference between them and the rest of the world, because they BOTH practice the same.
Now, the latest “” PERVERSION “” that the Protestant denominations have accepted into their ranks is “” GUEERS”” or SODOMITES, which is plainly condemned by YHWH=Yah in scriptures.
Is there such a thing as allowing a “” little paganism “” in the assembly, but not allowing a “” WHOLE LOT OF PAGANISM “” in the assembly to YHWH ??
NO SUCH THING DAVID, not to YHWH.
BrandonIke is CORRECT with the scriptures, and ALL thee PROPHETS OF OLD, the Taught Ones( Desciples) of Messiah and Yahshua Messiah Himself will BACK HIM UP !!!
And so will I, and I must Congratulate BrandonIke for standing in the gap for the true YHWH= Yah and His laws.
He is ONE out of a thousand, that will stand on Yah's Laws.
Traditional christianity is a joke, and a stench in the nostrils of Almighty YAHWEH and He even says so through His Prophets of old.
If you want to play along and tolorate such wickedness, then you will also suffer their judgment too.
Like the old saying, “”
Quote If you lay down to sleep with the dogs, then don't be suprised if you wake up with flees on you too. Eliyah C. still on the net!
Hi e,
Still thriving on condemning all and sundry. If you cared you would condemn less and listen more.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 12 2005,22:50) Quote (liljon @ Sep. 12 2005,13:13) ditto for easter, everything else i don't believe is true
Thank you liljon for showing you are openminded to search out truth for yourself. have you discovered any other falsities taught by the traditional churches?
christ born on december 25
once saved always
sunday is sabbathQuote (liljon @ Sep. 13 2005,20:45) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 12 2005,22:50) Quote (liljon @ Sep. 12 2005,13:13) ditto for easter, everything else i don't believe is true
Thank you liljon for showing you are openminded to search out truth for yourself. have you discovered any other falsities taught by the traditional churches?
christ born on december 25
once saved always
sunday is sabbath
Hi liljon,
Infallibility of the pope?
Worship of and prayer to saints?
Salvation by our own works, or ritual or obedience to leaders?
Powerless religion?
Holy Spirit guiding human institutions?
Heavenly destiny for men?
Traditional teachings equal to scripture?You better also do some research into all those other pagan words and symbols of my original post too.
Nick, I was with you on everything you said, except possibly “powerless religion.”
What did you mean by that?Oh, Nick, and of course, heavenly destiny for men.
How do you comprehend Phil 3:20, Eph 2:6; col 3:1?David on the net! Yay. Look at me.
Quote (david @ Sep. 14 2005,03:47) Nick, I was with you on everything you said, except possibly “powerless religion.”
What did you mean by that?
Hi david,
Yahweh is always able and willing to reveal His power to help men who have faith and approach Him in His Son. Religion without power is evidence Yahweh is not involved in their follies.there is no limit to His love and willingness to show His power. Men limit Him.The whore of babylon is dressed in Red[man] and purple[religion]. Blue[YHWH} is not in evidence.[read EX24]
2Tim 3.5
“holding to a form of godliness although they have denied it's power”
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