Exposing the founders of protestantism.

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    Eliyah
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    THE FOUNDERS OF PROTESTANTISM, THE WHORE'S HARLOT DAUGHTERS( Rev.17 and 18).

    Martin Luther (The Seed of Christianity)

    Dr. Martin Luther (1483-1546) is the seed of the modern-day Christian Church. Martin Luther initiated the Protestant Reformation (Protest) and forever split Christianity from Catholicism. Martin Luther will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 5:19) if he even makes it there (Matthew 7:21-23).

    Below are some quotes from the founder of Protestant Christianity Martin Luther, which shows the heresy he taught of Once Saved Always Saved:

    “…you must bear a true and not a fictitious sin. God does not save people who are only fictitious sinners.

    — Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521

    “Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness”

    — Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521

    “No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day.”

    — Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521

    “Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to.”

    — Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521

    “The imputation of righteousness we need very much, because we are far from perfect. As long as we have this body, sin will dwell in our flesh. Then, too, we sometimes drive away the holy spirit; we fall into sin, like Peter, David, and other holy men. Nevertheless we may always take recourse to this fact, that our sins are covered, and that God will not lay them to our charge. Sin is not held against us for Christ's sake.”

    — Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521

    “your sin cannot cast you into hell”

    — Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521

    “No sin can harm me”

    — Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521

    Martin Luther was a hell-bound hate monger (Matthew 5:22), a cursed man who hated Jews (Numbers 24:9). Obviously the great Christian patriarch Martin Luther did not read Romans-11. Martin Luther wrote about the so-called “damned, rejected race,” In his 1538 book: Against the Sabbatarians and again in 1543 book: On the Jews and Their Lies. Below are quotes from Martin Luther's 1543 book: On the Jews and their lies.

    Luther's Introduction:

    “I had made up my mind to write no more either about the Jews or against them. But since I learned that these miserable and accursed people do not cease to lure to themselves even us, that is, the Christians, I have published this little book, so that I might be found among those who opposed such poisonous activities of the Jews who warned the Christians to be on their guard against them. I would not have believed that a Christian could be duped by the Jews into taking their exile and wretchedness upon himself. However, the devil is the god of the world, and wherever God's word is absent he has an easy task, not only with the weak but also with the strong. May God help us. Amen.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “He did not call them Abraham's children, but a “brood of vipers” [Matt. 3:7]. Oh, that was too insulting for the noble blood and race of Israel, and they declared, “He has a demon' [Matt 11:18]. Our Lord also calls them a “brood of vipers”; furthermore in John 8 [:39,44] he states: “If you were Abraham's children ye would do what Abraham did…. You are of your father the devil. It was intolerable to them to hear that they were not Abraham's but the devil's children, nor can they bear to hear this today.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Therefore the blind Jews are truly stupid fools…”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Now just behold these miserable, blind, and senseless people.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “…their blindness and arrogance are as solid as an iron mountain.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Learn from this, dear Christian, what you are doing if you permit the blind Jews to mislead you. Then the saying will truly apply, “When a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into the pit” [cf. Luke 6:39]. You cannot learn anything from them except how to misunderstand the divine commandments…”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Therefore be on your guard against the Jews, knowing that wherever they have their synagogues, nothing is found but a den of devils in which sheer self-glory, conceit, lies, blasphemy, and defaming of God and men are practiced most maliciously and veheming his eyes on them.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Moreover, they are nothing but thieves and robbers who daily eat no morsel and wear no thread of clothing which they have not stolen and pilfered from us by means of their accursed usury. Thus they live from day to day, together with wife and child, by theft and robbery, as arch-thieves and robbers, in the most impenitent security.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “However, they have not acquired a perfect mastery of the art of lying; they lie so clumsily and ineptly that anyone who is just a little observant can easily detect it. But for us Christians they stand as a terrifying example of God's wrath.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “If I had to refute all the other articles of the Jewish faith, I should be obliged to write against them as much and for as long a time as they have used for inventing their lies– that is, longer than two thousand years.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “…Christ and his word can hardly be recognized because of the great vermin of human ordinances. However, let this suffice for the time being on their lies against doctrine or faith.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Did I not tell you earlier that a Jew is such a noble, precious jewel that God and all the angels dance when he farts?”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Alas, it cannot be anything but the terrible wrath of God which permits anyone to sink into such abysmal, devilish, hellish, insane baseness, envy, and arrogance. If I were to avenge myself on the devil himself I should be unable to wish him such evil and misfortune as God's wrath inflicts on the Jews, compelling them to lie and to blaspheme so monstrously, in violation of their own conscience. Anyway, they have their reward for constantly giving God the lie.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “…but then eject them forever from this country. For, as we have heard, God's anger with them is so intense that gentle mercy will only tend to make them worse and worse, while sharp mercy will reform them but little. Therefore, in any case, away with them!”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Over and above that we let them get rich on our sweat and blood, while we remain poor and they such the marrow from our b
    ones.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “I brief, dear princes and lords, those of you who have Jews under your rule– if my counsel does not please your, find better advice, so that you and we all can be rid of the unbearable, devilish burden of the Jews, lest we become guilty sharers before God in the lies, blasphemy, the defamation, and the curses which the mad Jews indulge in so freely and wantonly against the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, this dear mother, all hristians, all authority, and ourselves. Do not grant them protection, safe-conduct, or communion with us… With this faithful counsel and warning I wish to cleanse and exonerate my conscience.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Let the government deal with them in this respect, as I have suggested. But whether the government acts or not, let everyone at least be guided by his own conscience and form for himself a definition or image of a Jew.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “However, we must avoid confirming them in their wanton lying, slandering, cursing, and defaming. Nor dare we make ourselves partners in their devilish ranting and raving by shielding and protecting them, by giving them food, drink, and shelter, or by other neighborly acts…”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Therefore we Christians, in turn, are obliged not to tolerate their wanton and conscious blasphemy.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their conduct, now that we are aware of their lying and reviling and blaspheming. If we do, we become sharers in their lies, cursing and blaspemy. Thus we cannot extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine wrath, of which the prophets speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With prayer and the fear of God we must pratice a sharp mercy to see whether we might save at least a few from the glowing flames. We dare not avenge ourselves. Vengenance a thousand times worse than we could wish them already has them by the throat. I shall give you my sincere advice:

    First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly – and I myself was unaware of it – will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.

    Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

    Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them…

    Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuternomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: “what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord.” Thoses villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], “You are Peter,” etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach.

    Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home…

    Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's blessing in a good and worthy cause.

    Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3[:19]}. For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “But what will happen even if we do burn down the Jews' synagogues and forbid them publicly to praise God, to pray, to teach, to utter God's name? They will still keep doing it in secret. If we know that they are doing this in secret, it is the same as if they were doing it publicly. for our knowledge of their secret doings and our toleration of them implies that they are not secret after all and thus our conscience is encumbered with it before God.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:

    First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss in sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire. That would demonstrate to God our serious resolve and be evidence to all the world that it was in ignorance that we tolerated such houses, in which the Jews have reviled God, our dear Creator and Father, and his Son most shamefully up till now but that we have now given them their due reward.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “I wish and I ask that our rulers who have Jewish subjects exercise a sharp mercy toward these wretched people, as suggested above, to see whether this might not help (though it is doubtful). They must act like a good physician who, when gangrene has set in, proceeds without mercy to cut, saw, and burn flesh, veins
    , bone, and marrow. Such a procedure must also be followed in this instance. Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them, as Moses did in the wilderness, slaying three thousand lest the whole people perish. They surely do not know what they are doing; moreover, as people possessed, they do not wish to know it, hear it, or learn it. There it would be wrong to be merciful and confirm them in their conduct. If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs, so that we do not become partakers of their abominable blasphemy and all their other vices and thus merit God's wrath and be damned with them. I have done my duty. Now let everyone see to his. I am exonerated.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    “My essay, I hope, will furnish a Christian (who in any case has no desire to become a Jew) with enough material not only to defend himself against the blind, venomous Jews, but also to become the foe of the Jews' malice, lying, and cursing, and to understand not only that their belief is false but that they are surely possessed by all devils. May Christ, our dear Lord, convert them mercifully and preserve us steadfastly and immovably in the knowledge of him, which is eternal life. Amen.”

    — Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies

    Adolf Hitler's hatred for the Jewish people was inspired by Martin Luther's writings. Adolf Hitler was a big fan of Martin Luther; in fact Adolf Hitler even quoted Martin Luther in his auto-biography Mein Kampf. Many nazi web-sites even list The Jews and their Lies as inspirational reading along side Mein Kampf.

    The peasants of Germany revolted in 1525 because of their miserable living conditions and were slaughtered at the behest of Martin Luther! Below is yet another great quote from the founder of the Protestant Christian Church.

    “They should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!” — Martin Luther

    Martin Luther inspired the greatest killing machine in history though his anti-semetic writings which resulted in the slaughter of millions of innocent Jews. Martin Luther was also responsible for the death of German peasants. Martin Luther was a murderer!

    John Calvin (The Seed of Calvanism)

    John Calvin, the founder of Calvinism, was a deceiver, and also a murderer! Below are John Calvin's own words about Michael Servetus:

    “If he(Servetus) comes(to Geneva), I shall never let him go out alive if my authority has weight.” — John Calvin

    “I hope that the verdict will call for the death penalty.” — John Calvin

    In Geneva, October 27, 1553, Michael Servetus was tied to a stake and slowly burned to death. Here is what John Calvin had to say about Michael Servetus after he was burned to death:

    “Many people have accused me of such ferocious cruelty that (they allege) I would like to kill again the man I have destroyed. Not only am I indifferent to their comments, but I rejoice in the fact that they spit in my face.” — John Calvin

    “Whoever shall now contend that it is unjust to put heretics and blasphemers to death will knowingly and willingly incur their very guilt.” — John Calvin

    In the small town of Geneva with a population of only 16,000, fifty-seven executions took place sanctioned by John Calvin in a five-year period between 1542-1546. John Calvin was not a righteous man, but he was an egotistical tyrant and a cold-blooded killer!

    How Christians can follow the warped teachings of this deranged monster from the past is beyond belief.

    Eliyah C.

    #20433
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quite so eliyah,
    Are you free from their taint. Have you found safety in the Son?

    #20434
    david
    Participant

    Isn't it neat the way Nick does that?

    #20435
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Nick, from the evidence in your teachings that I've read on this forum, you have a form of teaching to those TWO men.

    #20436
    NickHassan
    Participant

    He e,
    I have written against their falsehoods before. You need to read slowly and carefully and not rush to judgement perhaps?

    #20437
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Nick, I don't want to even talk to you, because you twist everything i say so people will think wrong about me.

    #20438
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi e,
    Funny you should think that, but your words seem more revealing than you seem to realise. If only you could package your message more kindly you may get a better audience among us.

    #20439
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Do I hear someone out there somewhere? It sounds like Nick, but I just can't seem to make it out what he is saying.

    Sorry, can't here you.

    #20440
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi e,
    Your lack of hearing is no surprise but you do need to listen more because faith comes by hearing.

    #20441
    Eliyah
    Participant

    Sorry, just can't seem to make it out, If that is you shouting Nicky?

    #20442
    NickHassan
    Participant

    and this one

    #20443
    malcolm ferris
    Participant

    I believe that although many of the teachings the Protestants held were incorrect they were absolutely inspired by God to break away from the Catholic Church.
    It is called historically the Great Reformation – and sadly that is all it is – a reformed alcholic often will return to his drinking when great stresses arrive in life.
    As the saying goes the dog has returned to its vomit and the sow to her wallowing in the mire.
    The great Harlot church – clearly identified in the scripture to be the Catholic Church had daughters – every denomination came out of her and goes back to being as bad as her if not worse.
    Don't get me wrong — there were great men of God in all of the original movements and I believe that through all of them truth has gradually been restored.
    But when people put a name other than Christ upon them then despite the good start of the founders the thing ends up being just another manmade church system.
    Take the Methodists – I believe Wesley was a great man of God, he himself said he wasn't afraid that his influence would disappear after he passed from earth, rather that they would make a name out of it all – which they did.
    I think the words of Jesus speak well to the situation
    The queen of the south will rise up and condemn this generation – because she believed Solomon and a greater than Solomon is here.
    You claim you believe Moses, he will be your judge, for you deny me and he spoke of me….

    #20444
    malcolm ferris
    Participant

    Oops did I say in all of the movements there were great men of God.
    What was I thinking.
    In most of them…

    #20445
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Amen Malcolm,
    “seek ye first the kingdom of God and everything else will be added to you”Matt

    “unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God”Jn 3

    “I am the door of the sheep”Jn 10

    “Follow me”

    Eternal life is in the Son

    Instead men follow men as the blind leading the blind till both fall in the pit.

    #20431
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Here is another thread on the religions of men.

    #20446
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (malcolm ferris @ April 04 2006,23:45)
    I believe that although many of the teachings the Protestants held were incorrect they were absolutely inspired by God to break away from the Catholic Church.
    It is called historically the Great Reformation – and sadly that is all it is – a reformed alcholic often will return to his drinking when great stresses arrive in life.
    As the saying goes the dog has returned to its vomit and the sow to her wallowing in the mire.
    The great Harlot church – clearly identified in the scripture to be the Catholic Church had daughters – every denomination came out of her and goes back to being as bad as her if not worse.
    Don't get me wrong — there were great men of God in all of the original movements and I believe that through all of them truth has gradually been restored.
    But when people put a name other than Christ upon them then despite the good start of the founders the thing ends up being just another manmade church system.
    Take the Methodists – I believe Wesley was a great man of God, he himself said he wasn't afraid that his influence would disappear after he passed from earth, rather that they would make a name out of it all – which they did.
    I think the words of Jesus speak well to the situation
    The queen of the south will rise up and condemn this generation – because she believed Solomon and a greater than Solomon is here.
    You claim you believe Moses, he will be your judge, for you deny me and he spoke of me….


    I think these days God is doing something greater than the Reformation. It is better described as a redefinition.

    I am thankful for the reformation as it brought back many wonderful truths that we take for granted today and the bible became readily available to many too.

    But they still built on top of the same creedal foundation. That is why I say a redefinition is in order.

    #20447
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,
    Yes “every plant that My Father did not plant shall be rooted up”

    Only the works of God will survive.

    #20448
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    All the more reason to hold onto the truth. If we do not, then we will be swept away.

    We are told to not build our house on the sand. Perhaps God will send a spirtual tsunami?

    #20430
    Scripture Seeker
    Participant

    Quote (malcolm ferris @ April 04 2006,04:45)
    I believe that although many of the teachings the Protestants held were incorrect they were absolutely inspired by God to break away from the Catholic Church.
    It is called historically the Great Reformation – and sadly that is all it is – a reformed alcholic often will return to his drinking when great stresses arrive in life.
    As the saying goes the dog has returned to its vomit and the sow to her wallowing in the mire.
    The great Harlot church – clearly identified in the scripture to be the Catholic Church had daughters – every denomination came out of her and goes back to being as bad as her if not worse.
    Don't get me wrong — there were great men of God in all of the original movements and I believe that through all of them truth has gradually been restored.
    But when people put a name other than Christ upon them then despite the good start of the founders the thing ends up being just another manmade church system.
    Take the Methodists – I believe Wesley was a great man of God, he himself said he wasn't afraid that his influence would disappear after he passed from earth, rather that they would make a name out of it all – which they did.
    I think the words of Jesus speak well to the situation
    The queen of the south will rise up and condemn this generation – because she believed Solomon and a greater than Solomon is here.
    You claim you believe Moses, he will be your judge, for you deny me and he spoke of me….


    Hi Malcolm,

    Please read the following link.

    https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….69;st=0

    Also at the very bottom of page two there is around 19 answers to that defend the Catholic Church as being the Whore, please take the time to read them.

    God Bless you

    #20429
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi SS,
    As you show in the link the antichrist doctrine denies the Son of God.
    Trinity doctrine is a fruit and foundataional doctrine of catholicism.
    If you accept it you are believing Jesus Christ is not the Son of God but God Himself.

    “By their fruit you will know them”

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