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Quote Evolution is a fact of history. now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition,
so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
stu
Quote I know I benefit from the advances made by people who have long since died. So have you, although you would deny it. this is true, but the benefit is very recent ,and many benefits came out of the wars men has created ,but we would have been better of if we would have learn to behave adequately,in order to work and plant and eat and live high moral way,this would have made the knowledge from the less fortunate to be a use for us the survivers
Stu
.Quote The deep is a poetic term for the sea.
Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Ge 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.”
Ge 1:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
Ge 1:8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second dayI can not see anything poetic, in there
Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:04) stu Quote Evolution is a fact of history. now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition,
so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
…and where is the bit where you are being honest?Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:10) stu Quote I know I benefit from the advances made by people who have long since died. So have you, although you would deny it. this is true, but the benefit is very recent ,and many benefits came out of the wars men has created ,but we would have been better of if we would have learn to behave adequately,in order to work and plant and eat and live high moral way,this would have made the knowledge from the less fortunate to be a use for us the survivers
Indeed. It has been a fact of history that conflict and even cruelty to fellow humans has given us benefits. What is the answer to that?Collective, agreed, thought-through ethics, or one religious group attacking another because they have the wrong Absolute Truth™?
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:15) Stu
.Quote The deep is a poetic term for the sea.
Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Ge 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.”
Ge 1:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
Ge 1:8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second dayI can not see anything poetic, in there
OK, I wouldn't disagree!But you must appreciate that “the deep” means “the sea”.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:13) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:04) stu Quote Evolution is a fact of history. now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition,
so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
…and where is the bit where you are being honest?Stuart
stuhonesty to recognize the limit of our knowledge about the subject
Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:19) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:15) Stu
.Quote The deep is a poetic term for the sea.
Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Ge 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.”
Ge 1:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
Ge 1:8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second dayI can not see anything poetic, in there
OK, I wouldn't disagree!But you must appreciate that “the deep” means “the sea”.
Stuart
stuI agree but it seems that the planet was covered by water ,and at some places water was very deep ,means below the solid earth ,
and it is those two parts of water that God seems to have separated ,
Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2012,10:40) Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:13) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:04) stu Quote Evolution is a fact of history. now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition,
so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
…and where is the bit where you are being honest?Stuart
stuhonesty to recognize the limit of our knowledge about the subject
Perhaps you should speak for yourself on that score.Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2012,10:43) Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:19) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:15) Stu
.Quote The deep is a poetic term for the sea.
Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Ge 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.”
Ge 1:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
Ge 1:8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second dayI can not see anything poetic, in there
OK, I wouldn't disagree!But you must appreciate that “the deep” means “the sea”.
Stuart
stuI agree but it seems that the planet was covered by water ,and at some places water was very deep ,means below the solid earth ,
and it is those two parts of water that God seems to have separated ,
So, according to your interpretation of the translation of Genesis you posted, the “sky” separates the water on top of the solid earth from the water below the solid earth.No wonder you are having problems with your knowledge of evolution.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ May 23 2012,00:20) Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2012,10:43) Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:19) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:15) Stu
.Quote The deep is a poetic term for the sea.
Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Ge 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.”
Ge 1:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
Ge 1:8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second dayI can not see anything poetic, in there
OK, I wouldn't disagree!But you must appreciate that “the deep” means “the sea”.
Stuart
stuI agree but it seems that the planet was covered by water ,and at some places water was very deep ,means below the solid earth ,
and it is those two parts of water that God seems to have separated ,
So, according to your interpretation of the translation of Genesis you posted, the “sky” separates the water on top of the solid earth from the water below the solid earth.No wonder you are having problems with your knowledge of evolution.
Stuart
stuyou mean there never was a dome of water around the earth
Quote (Stu @ May 23 2012,00:14) Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2012,10:40) Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:13) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:04) stu Quote Evolution is a fact of history. now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition,
so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
…and where is the bit where you are being honest?Stuart
stuhonesty to recognize the limit of our knowledge about the subject
Perhaps you should speak for yourself on that score.Stuart
stuso what you try to say is that you have no limits to you knowledge
so you know all things ??Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2012,08:36) Quote (Stu @ May 23 2012,00:14) Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2012,10:40) Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:13) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:04) stu Quote Evolution is a fact of history. now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition,
so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
…and where is the bit where you are being honest?Stuart
stuhonesty to recognize the limit of our knowledge about the subject
Perhaps you should speak for yourself on that score.Stuart
stuso what you try to say is that you have no limits to you knowledge
so you know all things ??
There are limits to knowledge. In the case of Darwin those limits have nothing to do with your original post, which displays the ignorance that others don't suffer.Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2012,08:34) Quote (Stu @ May 23 2012,00:20) Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2012,10:43) Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:19) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:15) Stu
.Quote The deep is a poetic term for the sea.
Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Ge 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.”
Ge 1:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
Ge 1:8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second dayI can not see anything poetic, in there
OK, I wouldn't disagree!But you must appreciate that “the deep” means “the sea”.
Stuart
stuI agree but it seems that the planet was covered by water ,and at some places water was very deep ,means below the solid earth ,
and it is those two parts of water that God seems to have separated ,
So, according to your interpretation of the translation of Genesis you posted, the “sky” separates the water on top of the solid earth from the water below the solid earth.No wonder you are having problems with your knowledge of evolution.
Stuart
stuyou mean there never was a dome of water around the earth
How could there have been?Stuart
Quote (Stu @ May 23 2012,23:36) Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2012,08:36) Quote (Stu @ May 23 2012,00:14) Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2012,10:40) Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:13) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:04) stu Quote Evolution is a fact of history. now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition,
so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
…and where is the bit where you are being honest?Stuart
stuhonesty to recognize the limit of our knowledge about the subject
Perhaps you should speak for yourself on that score.Stuart
stuso what you try to say is that you have no limits to you knowledge
so you know all things ??
There are limits to knowledge. In the case of Darwin those limits have nothing to do with your original post, which displays the ignorance that others don't suffer.Stuart
stuyour ego is strong ,even if it matches your knowledge ,you would still be short of all the knowledge ,and so I think that just like everyone else you rely on computers and books to guide you,
but what i started with, is all very relevant even the ignorance of Darwin,
again putting my “so call ignorance”” at stake is no right ,I am sure I can use a computer just as well as you,so I can honestly stand tall to what I said , and that is ;;;
now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition,
so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
so true,so true in all things.
Quote (Stu @ May 23 2012,23:40) Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2012,08:34) Quote (Stu @ May 23 2012,00:20) Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2012,10:43) Quote (Stu @ May 22 2012,01:19) Quote (terraricca @ May 21 2012,16:15) Stu
.Quote The deep is a poetic term for the sea.
Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Ge 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.”
Ge 1:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
Ge 1:8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second dayI can not see anything poetic, in there
OK, I wouldn't disagree!But you must appreciate that “the deep” means “the sea”.
Stuart
stuI agree but it seems that the planet was covered by water ,and at some places water was very deep ,means below the solid earth ,
and it is those two parts of water that God seems to have separated ,
So, according to your interpretation of the translation of Genesis you posted, the “sky” separates the water on top of the solid earth from the water below the solid earth.No wonder you are having problems with your knowledge of evolution.
Stuart
stuyou mean there never was a dome of water around the earth
How could there have been?Stuart
stuthen why are the tropical,trees and animal fossils found in the north pole,and Siberia
or was the scientists wrong wen they unravel their core drill,and findings,???
and one more thing;it is the same motion that we use to believe in things; the same way of what we believe ,
you believing in what it is that you believe in,
and me in the same way ,but we are total opposite in our believes don't we
Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,04:02) stu your ego is strong ,even if it matches your knowledge ,you would still be short of all the knowledge ,and so I think that just like everyone else you rely on computers and books to guide you,
At what point did your ignorance become all about me? The hard work I have done to come to an understanding of what happened on this planet over the past few billion years has indeed involved books and computers, and much besides. So what? How about you tell us how much you have read on the subject.Quote but what i started with, is all very relevant even the ignorance of Darwin,
Please tell us exactly what you mean.I predict your answer will be the usual meaningless waffle, the desire to be part of the discussion (fair enough) but the inability to contribute anything meaningful (if you don't like science, at least you could bother to learn something about it so you can make meaningful criticism). This would take work that you haven't yet done. Why not do that work, then we could transcend our current lowly level of discourse, with you denying history and me telling you that you don't know what you are talking about (which is obvious to anyone with even a rough idea).
Quote again putting my “so call ignorance”” at stake is no right ,I am sure I can use a computer just as well as you,
Don't let me stop you. There are many very good websites out there that will explain science well.Quote so I can honestly stand tall to what I said , and that is ;;;
Nope, sorry, there may be many subjects on which you are far more knowledgeable than I, but Darwinian natural selection is not one of them, and I am not even a biologist myself either.Quote now let be honest here ,no men was alive to write about evolution as it was progressing ,
There are people alive today, and evolution is happening today. So your claim cannot be correct.Quote do not be silly ,evolution is at best a theory
There's something else you don't get. The word theory in science is as good as “proven” in your language. A theory is so good that it would be perverse to deny it. Another possiblity is that you have evidence that disproves it. Do you? No one else has found any such contrary evidence in the time since Darwin first published, and Darwin's theory has made predictions that have been verified. A scientific theory is the best explanation we have currently. And in the case of evolution by natural selection that is still true 150 years later. There is no other theory of how living species came to be.to explain a believe of some or most how we have come to be to this day and condition, so it is a made up story in the best of the knowledge of those who believe in it .
How would you know? You don't even know what it says.Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,04:11) stu then why are the tropical,trees and animal fossils found in the north pole,and Siberia
…and in Antarctica too. Good question, but surely irrelevant to your claim of some dome of water.The answer is here.
Quote or was the scientists wrong wen they unravel their core drill,and findings,???
Good of you to bring it up. This alleged dome of water, when exactly would you say that existed? There should be a record of it in the Antarctic and Greenland icecore data if it happened within the past 800,000 years.Quote and one more thing;it is the same motion that we use to believe in things; the same way of what we believe , you believing in what it is that you believe in, and me in the same way ,but we are total opposite in our believes don't we
I believe that one should pay attention to the evidence. Do you not believe that?Stuart
Quote (Stu @ May 25 2012,00:37) Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,04:11) stu then why are the tropical,trees and animal fossils found in the north pole,and Siberia
…and in Antarctica too. Good question, but surely irrelevant to your claim of some dome of water.The answer is here.
Quote or was the scientists wrong wen they unravel their core drill,and findings,???
Good of you to bring it up. This alleged dome of water, when exactly would you say that existed? There should be a record of it in the Antarctic and Greenland icecore data if it happened within the past 800,000 years.Quote and one more thing;it is the same motion that we use to believe in things; the same way of what we believe , you believing in what it is that you believe in, and me in the same way ,but we are total opposite in our believes don't we
I believe that one should pay attention to the evidence. Do you not believe that?Stuart
stuQuote
Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,04:11)
stuthen why are the tropical,trees and animal fossils found in the north pole,and Siberia
…and in Antarctica too. Good question, but surely irrelevant to your claim of some dome of water.
The answer is here.
I went in your “HERE” and it seems that scientist have still not agree to what is what ,this is the cause of their ignorance ,
and the unclear cut of their info ,
it is like someone try to make a globe fit in a cube of the same size in volume ,and try to explain why it is the same in shape,because it as the same volume.
if you find my explanation confusing try to read what the scientist says about the Plate tectonics,
Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2012,05:44) Quote (Stu @ May 25 2012,00:37) Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,04:11) stu then why are the tropical,trees and animal fossils found in the north pole,and Siberia
…and in Antarctica too. Good question, but surely irrelevant to your claim of some dome of water.The answer is here.
Quote or was the scientists wrong wen they unravel their core drill,and findings,???
Good of you to bring it up. This alleged dome of water, when exactly would you say that existed? There should be a record of it in the Antarctic and Greenland icecore data if it happened within the past 800,000 years.Quote and one more thing;it is the same motion that we use to believe in things; the same way of what we believe , you believing in what it is that you believe in, and me in the same way ,but we are total opposite in our believes don't we
I believe that one should pay attention to the evidence. Do you not believe that?Stuart
stuQuote
Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,04:11)
stuthen why are the tropical,trees and animal fossils found in the north pole,and Siberia
…and in Antarctica too. Good question, but surely irrelevant to your claim of some dome of water.
The answer is here.
I went in your “HERE” and it seems that scientist have still not agree to what is what ,this is the cause of their ignorance ,
and the unclear cut of their info ,
it is like someone try to make a globe fit in a cube of the same size in volume ,and try to explain why it is the same in shape,because it as the same volume.
if you find my explanation confusing try to read what the scientist says about the Plate tectonics,
Please say EXACTLY which aspect you think is the problem, and explain it, or withdraw your accusation that the reason for the tropical remains in non-tropical areas is because of the movement of tectonic plates.Stuart
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