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Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:39) all you know ,I have watched many documentaries about the earth ,animals ,mammals ,insects ,birds,fish and the invisible ones ,and the solar systems our 's and the others ,
it start to make me thinking,if the universe is so big and that there are billions of solar systems out there ,this would mean that there would be a slimmer than slim chance that there would be live on our planet ,but wen I have seen all the kinds of fish there are and other shell kind by the thousandths and so are the birds,and the ground animals by thousandths this also make it slimmer than slim that it all pop up and so beautifully came to be harmoniously coordinated that all those animals do and eat what they have been train to eat for their kind,
but wen it came to see the invisible to the eye, this was amazing ,bacteria,viruses, plankton,and hundreds more names I can't remember but all needed to sustain live on the planet , this again would make it slimmer than slim the chance that it all ad come by pure chance,
So what would you estimate to be the probability of life on Earth today?Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,09:39) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,13:50) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.
Stuart
Is that close to 6,000 years?Tim
the creation of the earth is one thing ,the creation of man is another ,man is here no longer than 6000 years
The last common ancestor of all humans, traced through the maternal line only, lived about 200,000 years ago. We know this because mitochondrial DNA is not recombined sexually, it accumulates mutations at a steady rate, on average 1 every 3500 years, so the time back to Mitochondrial Eve can be calculated from the numbers of differences in the mitochondrial DNA of people alive today.Completely independently, radioisotope dating of human fossil remains from the Omo River in Ethiopia give ages of 195,000 years old.
So the scale mistake involved in claiming humans only go back 6000 years is like saying that the distance between New York and Los Angeles is a matter of 50 miles or so.
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,09:39) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,13:50) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.
Stuart
Is that close to 6,000 years?Tim
the creation of the earth is one thing ,the creation of man is another ,man is here no longer than 6000 years
That is not what young earth Christians think.
But then, no two Christians believe the same thing any way.From Wiki:
Young Earth creationism (YEC) is the religious belief[1] that the Universe, Earth, and all life on Earth were created by direct acts of the Abrahamic God during a relatively short period, sometime between 5,700 and 10,000 years ago.[2] Its primary adherents are Christians and Jews[3] who believe that God created the Earth in six 24-hour days, taking a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation narrative as a basis for their beliefs.[4][5]Tim
Quote (charity @ April 17 2012,08:37) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,08:15) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,06:50) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.
Stuart
Is that close to 6,000 years?Tim
That'd be like saying that Adam only lived to the age of about 11 hours when as we know, Tim, Adam lived a full 930 years, not hours.Stuart
Is there any other creatures on earth that managed to live as long as Adam? Or did they whiteout a few obnoxious generations…perhaps children children that might turn up looking like them an wanting for some inheritance…I mean to say…the latter flooding of the earth reveals a total rejection, aborting the beginning…you would think being the first man, an having 900 years on earth might have been enough to do the job?
He probably wasted the day, waking late, scratching himself and sitting in front of television. And back then it was Songs of Praise and reruns of Benny Hinn on all day, no National Geographic or Discovery Channel with their reports of false gods and obsession with the knowledge of men.Hardly a motivating environment for Adam. 900 years could have gone just like that.
Stuart
Quote (TimothyVI @ April 18 2012,05:04) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,09:39) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,13:50) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.
Stuart
Is that close to 6,000 years?Tim
the creation of the earth is one thing ,the creation of man is another ,man is here no longer than 6000 years
That is not what young earth Christians think.
But then, no two Christians believe the same thing any way.From Wiki:
Young Earth creationism (YEC) is the religious belief[1] that the Universe, Earth, and all life on Earth were created by direct acts of the Abrahamic God during a relatively short period, sometime between 5,700 and 10,000 years ago.[2] Its primary adherents are Christians and Jews[3] who believe that God created the Earth in six 24-hour days, taking a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation narrative as a basis for their beliefs.[4][5]Tim
TIMthis is not what I read in scriptures ,and I do not belong to any group ,
the creation of the transformation of the earth into a place for men to live ;could have taken many thousands of years like 10 or 50 thousands years or more ,
but the existence of men would be not longer than about 6000 years ,
history and findings only show this , evolution of men into what he his now is pure speculation
Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:41) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,09:39) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,13:50) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.
Stuart
Is that close to 6,000 years?Tim
the creation of the earth is one thing ,the creation of man is another ,man is here no longer than 6000 years
The last common ancestor of all humans, traced through the maternal line only, lived about 200,000 years ago. We know this because mitochondrial DNA is not recombined sexually, it accumulates mutations at a steady rate, on average 1 every 3500 years, so the time back to Mitochondrial Eve can be calculated from the numbers of differences in the mitochondrial DNA of people alive today.Completely independently, radioisotope dating of human fossil remains from the Omo River in Ethiopia give ages of 195,000 years old.
So the scale mistake involved in claiming humans only go back 6000 years is like saying that the distance between New York and Los Angeles is a matter of 50 miles or so.
Stuart
stuall you say is pure speculation,even today we well know witch animal as the closes DNA to humans and it does not make him a human ,some people may think so ,but this would be still speculation,
the only prove that would come out of those speculation is that all creation as been created from things coming out of the earth,and so being connected through that and those elements only.
Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:39) all you know ,I have watched many documentaries about the earth ,animals ,mammals ,insects ,birds,fish and the invisible ones ,and the solar systems our 's and the others ,
it start to make me thinking,if the universe is so big and that there are billions of solar systems out there ,this would mean that there would be a slimmer than slim chance that there would be live on our planet ,but wen I have seen all the kinds of fish there are and other shell kind by the thousandths and so are the birds,and the ground animals by thousandths this also make it slimmer than slim that it all pop up and so beautifully came to be harmoniously coordinated that all those animals do and eat what they have been train to eat for their kind,
but wen it came to see the invisible to the eye, this was amazing ,bacteria,viruses, plankton,and hundreds more names I can't remember but all needed to sustain live on the planet , this again would make it slimmer than slim the chance that it all ad come by pure chance,
So what would you estimate to be the probability of life on Earth today?Stuart
stulive for men on earth will never end,
now what kind of men would it be ;this is another question.
Quote so the time back to Mitochondrial Eve Mythology was never your strong point, the first female is considered Lilith, not Eve. Lilith would not be subservant to Adam, she was tossed out of the garden and another woman was made, being Eve.
Quote When we were looking for interesting educational material on the hard to believe properties of water
(Did you know that bacteria in water react to solar flares as they happen – which is 8 minutes BEFORE
we can actually see the flares – since light takes 8 minutes to reach Earth from the Sun?),Are you saying that something is travelling faster than light?
Hi david,
What about light being emitted from a space craft going at say 1,000 kmh? in the same direction?
Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,04:21) No one can know with any certainty whether gods exist or not. That's why there is such a thing as faith. We are all agnostics.
OK, so you are Agnostic which I said you were a long time ago. Remember this?
http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/atheist.htmAnyway, I have to call you out here because Agnostics don't go around saying that there is no God like you. You see the definition of being Agnostic means that they are not sure either way through lack of proof or understanding.
Another fail Stu because you are not undecided. You affirm you have faith in Nothing. You have argued this way since you came here and I haven't seen you change your view yet.
Think about it. How many times have you said there is no God and how many times have you tried to make fun of those that believe in God? Nearly every post Stu.
Time to wake from your slumber.
The spirit born believer “knows” the presence of God, it is not a theory. Living faith is the humble recognition that there is a vast gulf between what man can spiritually and scientifically comprehend and the reality of Absolute deity, absolute truth.
Colter
Quote (princess @ April 18 2012,12:36) Quote so the time back to Mitochondrial Eve Mythology was never your strong point, the first female is considered Lilith, not Eve. Lilith would not be subservant to Adam, she was tossed out of the garden and another woman was made, being Eve.
Fascinating. But Mitochondrial Eve isn't the name I gave her.And unlike the characters in Genesis, she did actually exist.
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ April 18 2012,21:41) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,04:21) No one can know with any certainty whether gods exist or not. That's why there is such a thing as faith. We are all agnostics.
OK, so you are Agnostic which I said you were a long time ago. Remember this?
http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/atheist.htmAnyway, I have to call you out here because Agnostics don't go around saying that there is no God like you. You see the definition of being Agnostic means that they are not sure either way through lack of proof or understanding.
Another fail Stu because you are not undecided. You affirm you have faith in Nothing. You have argued this way since you came here and I haven't seen you change your view yet.
Think about it. How many times have you said there is no God and how many times have you tried to make fun of those that believe in God? Nearly every post Stu.
Time to wake from your slumber.
Which would all be fine except that you don't appear to have consulted a dictionary on this subject either.Perhaps you could ask Santa, or one of the gods you think exists, for a dictionary for christmas. Then you might understand what words mean. While you have no clue about what it means, do you know without looking who first used the word agnostic, and when?
Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,02:36) Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:41) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,09:39) Quote (TimothyVI @ April 17 2012,13:50) Quote (Stu @ April 17 2012,01:36) So the earth is a little younger than the sun, with the earth around 4.55 billion years old.
Stuart
Is that close to 6,000 years?Tim
the creation of the earth is one thing ,the creation of man is another ,man is here no longer than 6000 years
The last common ancestor of all humans, traced through the maternal line only, lived about 200,000 years ago. We know this because mitochondrial DNA is not recombined sexually, it accumulates mutations at a steady rate, on average 1 every 3500 years, so the time back to Mitochondrial Eve can be calculated from the numbers of differences in the mitochondrial DNA of people alive today.Completely independently, radioisotope dating of human fossil remains from the Omo River in Ethiopia give ages of 195,000 years old.
So the scale mistake involved in claiming humans only go back 6000 years is like saying that the distance between New York and Los Angeles is a matter of 50 miles or so.
Stuart
stuall you say is pure speculation,even today we well know witch animal as the closes DNA to humans and it does not make him a human ,some people may think so ,but this would be still speculation,
the only prove that would come out of those speculation is that all creation as been created from things coming out of the earth,and so being connected through that and those elements only.
Reality doesn't particularly care what you think about it.Stuart
Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,02:40) Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:39) all you know ,I have watched many documentaries about the earth ,animals ,mammals ,insects ,birds,fish and the invisible ones ,and the solar systems our 's and the others ,
it start to make me thinking,if the universe is so big and that there are billions of solar systems out there ,this would mean that there would be a slimmer than slim chance that there would be live on our planet ,but wen I have seen all the kinds of fish there are and other shell kind by the thousandths and so are the birds,and the ground animals by thousandths this also make it slimmer than slim that it all pop up and so beautifully came to be harmoniously coordinated that all those animals do and eat what they have been train to eat for their kind,
but wen it came to see the invisible to the eye, this was amazing ,bacteria,viruses, plankton,and hundreds more names I can't remember but all needed to sustain live on the planet , this again would make it slimmer than slim the chance that it all ad come by pure chance,
So what would you estimate to be the probability of life on Earth today?Stuart
stulive for men on earth will never end,
now what kind of men would it be ;this is another question.
Hopefully not me.Stuart
Quote (Colter @ April 18 2012,22:40) The spirit born believer “knows” the presence of God, it is not a theory. Colter
No, if it was a theory there would be evidence to support it.There isn't, so what would you call it?
Speculation?
In your case it would appear to be bald assertion of a conspiracy of an Imaginary Tyrant running the universe.
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ April 18 2012,21:34) Hi david, What about light being emitted from a space craft going at say 1,000 kmh? in the same direction?
…asked t8.And at that moment Einstein walked in.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,00:46) Quote (Colter @ April 18 2012,22:40) The spirit born believer “knows” the presence of God, it is not a theory. Colter
No, if it was a theory there would be evidence to support it.There isn't, so what would you call it?
Speculation?
In your case it would appear to be bald assertion of a conspiracy of an Imaginary Tyrant running the universe.
Stuart
You don't have a relationship with God, you have a relationship with argumentative Stu, so you don't understand what spirit born believers are talking about.Colter
Quote (Stu @ April 19 2012,07:44) Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,02:40) Quote (Stu @ April 18 2012,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:39) all you know ,I have watched many documentaries about the earth ,animals ,mammals ,insects ,birds,fish and the invisible ones ,and the solar systems our 's and the others ,
it start to make me thinking,if the universe is so big and that there are billions of solar systems out there ,this would mean that there would be a slimmer than slim chance that there would be live on our planet ,but wen I have seen all the kinds of fish there are and other shell kind by the thousandths and so are the birds,and the ground animals by thousandths this also make it slimmer than slim that it all pop up and so beautifully came to be harmoniously coordinated that all those animals do and eat what they have been train to eat for their kind,
but wen it came to see the invisible to the eye, this was amazing ,bacteria,viruses, plankton,and hundreds more names I can't remember but all needed to sustain live on the planet , this again would make it slimmer than slim the chance that it all ad come by pure chance,
So what would you estimate to be the probability of life on Earth today?Stuart
stulive for men on earth will never end,
now what kind of men would it be ;this is another question.
Hopefully not me.Stuart
stuso we both have our wish ,me for life,and you to die
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