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- December 14, 2009 at 8:06 pm#164285terrariccaParticipant
hi WJ
and Mathew 26;64
Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.December 14, 2009 at 8:30 pm#164288Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,15:01) hi WJ
oh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
here is your quote what do you not understand?????????
tI understand that you pit scritpures against scriptures and do not accept the whole council of God.
Is Jesus your Lord and God or not?
Scriptures say that he is God.
So go and find what that means!
WJ
December 14, 2009 at 8:34 pm#164289Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,15:06) hi WJ
and Mathew 26;64
Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
tPlease tell me what “Right hand of Power” means?
No indication of Jesus being less than the Father here, but because he is at the right hand of power he is equal in power!
Matt 28:18, 19
WJ
December 14, 2009 at 8:37 pm#164290NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
If you are at the right hand of God you are not that God are you?December 14, 2009 at 8:42 pm#164292Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,15:37) Hi WJ,
If you are at the right hand of God you are not that God are you?
If I am at my natural Fathers right hand I am human aren't I?WJ
December 14, 2009 at 8:43 pm#164293NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
So you are your father's right hand man.
But you are not your own father but somehow you think Jesus is??December 14, 2009 at 8:55 pm#164296Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,15:43) Hi WJ,
So you are your father's right hand man.
But you are not your own father but somehow you think Jesus is??
No and Jesus is not the Father!Your point is?
WJ
December 14, 2009 at 9:22 pm#164309NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
Jesus said the Father was the one the Jews called God.[Jn8.54]
Is that God of Jesus[jn20.17] and the jews not yet your God?December 14, 2009 at 9:40 pm#164314Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,16:22) Hi WJ,
Jesus said the Father was the one the Jews called God.[Jn8.54]
Is that God of Jesus[jn20.17] and the jews not yet your God?
NHThe Jews didn't know God, and they didn't know who Jesus was either.
WJ
December 14, 2009 at 10:14 pm#164323NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
So Jesus told them who they called God, his Father.
Why do you not worship his God?December 14, 2009 at 10:20 pm#164325terrariccaParticipanthi all
as i read is all agreeing that there is no trinity???December 14, 2009 at 11:20 pm#164334Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,17:20) hi all
as i read is all agreeing that there is no trinity???
TYou will not find many here who accept the whole council of God.
But you will find that the majority that follow Jesus “The Way” are Trintarians.
Open your eyes man!
WJ
December 15, 2009 at 12:34 am#164339NickHassanParticipantHi WJ,
Does the WHOLE COUNCIL OF GOD include the bible, catholic tradition and other gnostic sources?December 16, 2009 at 1:42 am#164608chosenoneParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 15 2009,10:20) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,17:20) hi all
as i read is all agreeing that there is no trinity???
TYou will not find many here who accept the whole council of God.
But you will find that the majority that follow Jesus “The Way” are Trintarians.
Open your eyes man!
WJ
WJ.
So the “majority” represents truth?December 16, 2009 at 5:22 am#164641terrariccaParticipanthi WJ
you right they are trinitatian,so it must be thue??
so i must be blind phisikly or spiritualy ?????if i can see it.
The scriptures say “if the intire human race would contredict God let God be found true.
it is not the spirit of Christ to recognise the trinity if it would have been so important he would never have say that is father is greather than him.and that he those the work his father as ask to do.
only on those two points the trinity dies,if you dont stop teaching the trinity you are a antichrist acording to Paul,John.(not Me)December 16, 2009 at 6:56 am#164651Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2009,16:22) hi WJ
you right they are trinitatian,so it must be thue??
so i must be blind phisikly or spiritualy ?????if i can see it.
The scriptures say “if the intire human race would contredict God let God be found true.
it is not the spirit of Christ to recognise the trinity if it would have been so important he would never have say that is father is greather than him.and that he those the work his father as ask to do.
only on those two points the trinity dies,if you dont stop teaching the trinity you are a antichrist acording to Paul,John.(not Me)
Hi Terraricca,Why do you falsely accuse a believer in Christ? (Rev.12:10)
1Cor.13:4-6 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself,
is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own,
is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;I strongly suggest you refrain from false accusations.
Matt.7:1-3 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?Ed J
December 16, 2009 at 7:30 am#164653ConstitutionalistParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,12:34) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,15:06) hi WJ
and Mathew 26;64
Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
tPlease tell me what “Right hand of Power” means?
No indication of Jesus being less than the Father here, but because he is at the right hand of power he is equal in power!
Matt 28:18, 19
WJ
1 Peter 3:22 who has gone into heaven and is at 'elohim's right hand, with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.1 Peter 3:22 States he sits at G-d's right hand, doesn't make him G-d. Does show he is at an elevated position.
Mark 14:62 “I am,” said Yeshua HaMoshiach. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”
Mark 14:62 Again no diefication here, he does call himself “Son of Man” though, definately not a G-d here.
So now let's look at your verse:
Mat 26:64 Yeshua HaMoshiach (Jesus) saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Well, after seeing the other verses we see that Yeshua HaMoshiach is sitting at te right hand of 'elohim (G-d).
Therefore (“on the right hand of power = on the right hand of 'elohim/G-d”). Pretty simple.
December 16, 2009 at 7:33 am#164654ConstitutionalistParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,12:34) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,15:06) hi WJ
and Mathew 26;64
Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
tPlease tell me what “Right hand of Power” means?
No indication of Jesus being less than the Father here, but because he is at the right hand of power he is equal in power!
Matt 28:18, 19
WJ
Quote No indication of Jesus being less than the Father here, but because he is at the right hand of power he is equal in power! Speculative and conjecture on your part.
December 16, 2009 at 7:35 am#164655ConstitutionalistParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,12:42) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,15:37) Hi WJ,
If you are at the right hand of God you are not that God are you?
If I am at my natural Fathers right hand I am human aren't I?WJ
It still doesn't make you your father.Again speculative and full of conjecture.
December 16, 2009 at 7:38 am#164656ConstitutionalistParticipantQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,12:55) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,15:43) Hi WJ,
So you are your father's right hand man.
But you are not your own father but somehow you think Jesus is??
No and Jesus is not the Father!Your point is?
WJ
His point is, showing trinitarian gasping at making the son a golden calf god, so people may worship him as another Greco-Roman god. - AuthorPosts
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