Every Knee Shall Bow And Confess to God!

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    terraricca
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    hi WJ
    and Mathew 26;64
    Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

    #164288

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,15:01)
    hi WJ
    oh 14:28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
    here is your quote what do you not understand???????????????????????????


    t

    I understand that you pit scritpures against scriptures and do not accept the whole council of God.

    Is Jesus your Lord and God or not?

    Scriptures say that he is God.

    So go and find what that means!

    WJ

    #164289

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,15:06)
    hi WJ
    and Mathew 26;64
    Mat 26:64  Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


    t

    Please tell me what “Right hand of Power” means?

    No indication of Jesus being less than the Father here, but because he is at the right hand of power he is equal in power!

    Matt 28:18, 19

    WJ

    #164290
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    If you are at the right hand of God you are not that God are you?

    #164292

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,15:37)
    Hi WJ,
    If you are at the right hand of God you are not that God are you?


    If I am at my natural Fathers right hand I am human aren't I?

    WJ

    #164293
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    So you are your father's right hand man.
    But you are not your own father but somehow you think Jesus is??

    #164296

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,15:43)
    Hi WJ,
    So you are your father's right hand man.
    But you are not your own father but somehow you think Jesus is??


    No and Jesus is not the Father!

    Your point is?

    WJ

    #164309
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    Jesus said the Father was the one the Jews called God.[Jn8.54]
    Is that God of Jesus[jn20.17] and the jews not yet your God?

    #164314

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,16:22)
    Hi WJ,
    Jesus said the Father was the one the Jews called God.[Jn8.54]
    Is that God of Jesus[jn20.17] and the jews not yet your God?


    NH

    The Jews didn't know God, and they didn't know who Jesus was either.

    WJ

    #164323
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    So Jesus told them who they called God, his Father.
    Why do you not worship his God?

    #164325
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi all
    as i read is all agreeing that there is no trinity??????

    #164334

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,17:20)
    hi all
    as i read is all agreeing that there is no trinity??????


    T

    You will not find many here who accept the whole council of God.

    But you will find that the majority that follow Jesus “The Way” are Trintarians.

    Open your eyes man!

    WJ

    #164339
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WJ,
    Does the WHOLE COUNCIL OF GOD include the bible, catholic tradition and other gnostic sources?

    #164608
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 15 2009,10:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,17:20)
    hi all
    as i read is all agreeing that there is no trinity??????


    T

    You will not find many here who accept the whole council of God.

    But you will find that the majority that follow Jesus “The Way” are Trintarians.

    Open your eyes man!

    WJ


    WJ.
    So the “majority” represents truth?

    #164641
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi WJ
    you right they are trinitatian,so it must be thue?????
    so i must be blind phisikly or spiritualy ?????????????????if i can see it.
    The scriptures say “if the intire human race would contredict God let God be found true.
    it is not the spirit of Christ to recognise the trinity if it would have been so important he would never have say that is father is greather than him.and that he those the work his father as ask to do.
    only on those two points the trinity dies,if you dont stop teaching the trinity you are a antichrist acording to Paul,John.(not Me)

    #164651
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2009,16:22)
    hi WJ
    you right they are trinitatian,so it must be thue?????
    so i must be blind phisikly or spiritualy ?????????????????if i can see it.
    The scriptures say “if the intire human race would contredict God let God be found true.
    it is not the spirit of Christ to recognise the trinity if it would have been so important he would never have say that is father is greather than him.and that he those the work his father as ask to do.
    only on those two points the trinity dies,if you dont stop teaching the trinity you are a antichrist acording to Paul,John.(not Me)


    Hi Terraricca,

    Why do you falsely accuse a believer in Christ? (Rev.12:10)

    1Cor.13:4-6 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself,
    is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own,
    is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

    I strongly suggest you refrain from false accusations.

    Matt.7:1-3 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge,
    ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
    And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

    Ed J

    #164653

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,12:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,15:06)
    hi WJ
    and Mathew 26;64
    Mat 26:64  Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


    t

    Please tell me what “Right hand of Power” means?

    No indication of Jesus being less than the Father here, but because he is at the right hand of power he is equal in power!

    Matt 28:18, 19

    WJ


    1 Peter 3:22 who has gone into heaven and is at 'elohim's right hand, with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.

    1 Peter 3:22 States he sits at G-d's right hand, doesn't make him G-d. Does show he is at an elevated position.

    Mark 14:62 “I am,” said Yeshua HaMoshiach. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

    Mark 14:62 Again no diefication here, he does call himself “Son of Man” though, definately not a G-d here.

    So now let's look at your verse:

    Mat 26:64 Yeshua HaMoshiach (Jesus) saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

    Well, after seeing the other verses we see that Yeshua HaMoshiach is sitting at te right hand of 'elohim (G-d).

    Therefore (“on the right hand of power = on the right hand of 'elohim/G-d”). Pretty simple.

    #164654

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,12:34)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2009,15:06)
    hi WJ
    and Mathew 26;64
    Mat 26:64  Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


    t

    Please tell me what “Right hand of Power” means?

    No indication of Jesus being less than the Father here, but because he is at the right hand of power he is equal in power!

    Matt 28:18, 19

    WJ


    Quote
    No indication of Jesus being less than the Father here, but because he is at the right hand of power he is equal in power!

    Speculative and conjecture on your part.

    #164655

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,12:42)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,15:37)
    Hi WJ,
    If you are at the right hand of God you are not that God are you?


    If I am at my natural Fathers right hand I am human aren't I?

    WJ


    It still doesn't make you your father.

    Again speculative and full of conjecture.

    #164656

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,12:55)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,15:43)
    Hi WJ,
    So you are your father's right hand man.
    But you are not your own father but somehow you think Jesus is??


    No and Jesus is not the Father!

    Your point is?

    WJ


    His point is, showing trinitarian gasping at making the son a golden calf god, so people may worship him as another Greco-Roman god.

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