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March 17, 2007 at 4:49 pm#45220

NickHassan

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 16 2007,22:27)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2007,09:04)

Hi W,
Is your God sort of an amorphous fluid that has no place of true abode?
The God of the bible is a being that despite His manifestations on puny earth has never left heaven.
He dwelled with the Israelites but heaven was still His Throne.

His Spirit manifests Him such that we cannot be apart from Him as shown in Ps 139 and Acts 17 and He knows us too by the human spirit we have been given as in Proverbs 20
Proverbs 20:27
The lamp of the LORD searches the spirit of a man ; it searches out his inmost being.”

The Father is the source of all life and the original father of all spirits.

Really!

Then you deny theat the Lord came from heaven! So The Word/God which is and was the creator didnt take on human flesh?

Anti-Christ!

Hi w,
Indeed the Lord God visited His people in the vessel of His Son.
But the Son was not the God that was IN HIM.
God will again visit in the King of kings.

Zech 12
” 1The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

2Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

3And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

4In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

5And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

6In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

7The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

8In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

9And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. “

Zech 14
” 1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. “

Rev 19
” 11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

Ps 2
10Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

March 17, 2007 at 6:24 pm#45224

Worshipping Jesus

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Some day you will ask Jesus to show you the Father and he will say “How long have I been with you, and you still do not know me”? I and My Father are One”!

At which time you will bow down and worship and say “My Lord and My God”.

March 17, 2007 at 6:55 pm#45229

NickHassan

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Hi W,
Did you not see the fruit of God as Spirit in Christ?
Did you not hear God speak through Christ?
Did you not watch God heal and set free through his anointed vessel/s?
If not then how can you hope to follow him?

March 19, 2007 at 4:13 am#45429

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2007,19:55)

I follow him because he is my Lord and my Master and my God.

And in following him and honoring him I am following and honoring the Father.

For he who has the Son has the Father!

So what is the difference between serving Yeshua as my “Lord and Master” and as my God?

Is there any difference NH?

Has not the Father given all things into his hands?

Has not the Father commanded the Angels to worship him?

March 19, 2007 at 4:20 am#45431

NickHassan

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2007,05:13)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2007,19:55)

I follow him because he is my Lord and my Master and my God.

And in following him and honoring him I am following and honoring the Father.

For he who has the Son has the Father!

So what is the difference between serving Yeshua as my “Lord and Master” and as my God?

Is there any difference NH?

Has not the Father given all things into his hands?

Has not the Father commanded the Angels to worship him?

Hi W,
He did not teach trinity
so in doing so in which way are you following him?

March 19, 2007 at 4:35 am#45441

NickHassan

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Hi W,
You do not know the difference between your God and your Lord??
Forget the vanities in your mind and humbly learn from scripture.
For US there is ONE God and ONE Lord Jesus.

March 19, 2007 at 5:16 am#45450

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,05:35)

Hi W,
You do not know the difference between your God and your Lord??
Forget the vanities in your mind and humbly learn from scripture.
For US there is ONE God and ONE Lord Jesus.

Yes true! Why dont you finish it!

Eph 4:6
One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.

So he is in us by that One selfsame Spirit, the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God!

March 19, 2007 at 5:21 am#45451

NickHassan

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Hi W,
He did not teach trinity
so in doing so in which way are you following him?
Absolutely the Spirit of the living God, ever proceeding from God, is in the Son and the sons of God.
That makes two.

March 19, 2007 at 4:20 pm#45488

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,06:21)

Hi W,
He did not teach trinity
so in doing so in which way are you following him?
Absolutely the Spirit of the living God, ever proceeding from God, is in the Son and the sons of God.
That makes two.

I am following him by obeying the commandment to honour the Son **Even as** the Father!

How about you do you honour the Lord from heaven as the Father?

Honour, Greek “timao”; which means…

1) to estimate, fix the value

a) for the value of something belonging to one's self

2) to honour, to have in honour, to revere, venerate

Revere; regard as worthy of great honor (synonyms, REVERE, REVERENCE, VENERATE, WORSHIP, ADORE )

Venerate;
1 : to regard with reverential respect or with admiring deference
2 : to honor (as an icon or a relic) with a ritual act of devotion

Is the value that you hold for the Father the same value that you hold for the Son?

Do you honour, worship, revere, and bow down to the Word/God the Lord from heaven?

March 19, 2007 at 7:18 pm#45502

NickHassan

Participant

Hi W,
Are you not in Christ?

March 19, 2007 at 8:55 pm#45520

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,20:18)

Hi W,
Are you not in Christ?

You didnt answer my questions…

I am following him by obeying the commandment to honour the Son **Even as** the Father!

How about you do you honour the Lord from heaven as the Father?

Honour, Greek “timao”; which means…

1) to estimate, fix the value

a) for the value of something belonging to one's self

2) to honour, to have in honour, to revere, venerate

Revere; regard as worthy of great honor (synonyms, REVERE, REVERENCE, VENERATE, WORSHIP, ADORE )

Venerate;
1 : to regard with reverential respect or with admiring deference
2 : to honor (as an icon or a relic) with a ritual act of devotion

Is the value that you hold for the Father the same value that you hold for the Son?

Do you honour, worship, revere, and bow down to the Word/God the Lord from heaven?

March 19, 2007 at 9:08 pm#45521

NickHassan

Participant

Hi W,
Surely you would not confuse the Son of God with his father and his God?

Kiss the son.
The Father rules through him.

March 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm#45536

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,22:08)

Hi W,
Surely you would not confuse the Son of God with his father and his God?

Kiss the son.
The Father rules through him.

Is there any thing in this post that confuses the Father with the Son?

The questions are yes and no answers!

Can you answer? Or not?

I am following him by obeying the commandment to honour the Son **Even as** the Father!

How about you do you honour the Lord from heaven as you honour the Father?

Honour, Greek “timao”; which means…

1) to estimate, fix the value

a) for the value of something belonging to one's self

2) to honour, to have in honour, to revere, venerate

Revere; regard as worthy of great honor (synonyms, REVERE, REVERENCE, VENERATE, WORSHIP, ADORE )

Venerate;
1 : to regard with reverential respect or with admiring deference
2 : to honor (as an icon or a relic) with a ritual act of devotion

Is the value that you hold for the Father the same value that you hold for the Son?

Do you honour, worship, revere, and bow down to the Word/God, Jesus, the Lord from heaven?

March 19, 2007 at 10:09 pm#45544

NickHassan

Participant

Hi Worshipping Jesus,
Do you really think the plan of God was to send His son so that the Son would be worshiped? If so you have missed the entire plan of God.

March 20, 2007 at 6:26 am#45625

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2007,23:09)

Hi Worshipping Jesus,
Do you really think the plan of God was to send His son so that the Son would be worshiped? If so you have missed the entire plan of God.

You havnt answered the questions!

March 20, 2007 at 6:52 am#45626

NickHassan

Participant

Hi W,
What does AS mean?
In exactly the same way
or
as well as?
Matt 21
” 34And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.

35And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.

36Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.

37But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.

38But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.

39And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.

40When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?

41They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

42Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

44And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder”

How should the servants have been received?
How much more should the son have been respected?
He represented the Owner and the owners family.

March 20, 2007 at 6:57 am#45627

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2007,07:52)