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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2010,08:48) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 01 2010,02:33) selah If you're looking for opinions, you have come to the right side, because that's all you get here.
Now let me ask you a question, do opinions really count?Georg
Hi Georg,
Did you really say this?But all your work in prophecy cannot be proven so remains your opinion.
Can not be proven by whom, you?Georg
Georg said:
“If you're looking for opinions, you have come to the right side, because that's all you get here. Now let me ask you a question, do opinions really count?”
Apparently so, otherwise why would you have asked for mine?
Whose opinion would be more worthy to be counted?
John Wesley or … … G
Charles Spurgeon or … … G
Sir Isaac Newton or … … GQuote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,01:32) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2010,08:34) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 01 2010,02:49) Ed The scroll Zechariah saw was a vision 30×15 feet, you said
(These dimensions match precisely the very dimensions of a cross [†])
Were those the dimension of the cross Jesus was nailed too? I doubt it.
You call it “Theomatics”, I think you're closer to “Theomania”.Georg
Hi Georg,Here is the quote…
“I believe the 'sign of the cross' is precisely what is mentioned in Zech.5:1-4.”
Seems you changed the words around a little; yes?
Ed J
EdThis is the post I copied and pasted from.
Georg
Hi Georg,That means you quoted yourself then; does it NOT?
I copied my quote! When your intention is to dispute
someone should you NOT have your FACTS straight?Ed J
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,01:32) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2010,06:57) Hi Selah,
Thanks, I'm not to fond of pigeon holes.
I believe the 'sign of the cross' is precisely what is mentioned in Zech.5:1-4
Have you or Georg ever considered the cross [†] to be this curse in Zech.5:1-4?Zech.5:1-4 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.
And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll;
the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.
(These dimensions match precisely the very dimensions of a cross [†])
Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth:
for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it;
and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief,
and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst
of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgRecognize it?
Georg
Hi Georg,Yes.
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2010,09:58) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,01:32) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2010,06:57) Hi Selah,
Thanks, I'm not to fond of pigeon holes.
I believe the 'sign of the cross' is precisely what is mentioned in Zech.5:1-4
Have you or Georg ever considered the cross [†] to be this curse in Zech.5:1-4?Zech.5:1-4 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.
And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll;
the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.
(These dimensions match precisely the very dimensions of a cross [†])
Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth:
for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it;
and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief,
and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst
of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgRecognize it?
Georg
Hi Georg,Yes.
Thank you!Georg
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2010,09:58) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,01:32) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2010,06:57) Hi Selah,
Thanks, I'm not to fond of pigeon holes.
I believe the 'sign of the cross' is precisely what is mentioned in Zech.5:1-4
Have you or Georg ever considered the cross [†] to be this curse in Zech.5:1-4?Zech.5:1-4 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll.
And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll;
the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits.
(These dimensions match precisely the very dimensions of a cross [†])
Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth:
for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it;
and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief,
and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst
of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgRecognize it?
Georg
Hi Georg,Yes.
Hi Georg,Sor, I don't have my facts straight.
What I meant was: the 1/2 to 1 proportional size ratios,
Not the translated size ratios. Sorry for the mix up.Should I assume you disagree with my assertions?
If you disagree, you should at least offer another explanation;
should you not? Are we not here to learn or merely dispute each other?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd
I don't believe the scroll has nothing to do with the cross period.
You have a vision of “the horses and riders”,
a vision of “the four horns and four workmen”,
a vision of “the Surveyor”,
a vision of “Joshua the high priest”,
a vision of “the golden Lampstand”,
then you have a vision of”the flying scroll”,
a vision of “the woman in the Ephah”,
and a vision of “the four Chariots”.Do you have an answer for those too? what do the numbers say?
No, I don't have an explanation for these visions either.Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,10:36) Ed I don't believe the scroll has nothing to do with the cross period.
You have a vision of “the horses and riders”,
a vision of “the four horns and four workmen”,
a vision of “the Surveyor”,
a vision of “Joshua the high priest”,
a vision of “the golden Lampstand”,
then you have a vision of”the flying scroll”,
a vision of “the woman in the Ephah”,
and a vision of “the four Chariots”.Do you have an answer for those too? what do the numbers say?
No, I don't have an explanation for these visions either.Georg
Hi Georg,Why do you make sarcastic sounding comments like this.
Numbers don't teach, the HolySpirit does the teaching,
but numbers can be offered as proof, a second witness. (Matt.18:16)What if I do have any insight to those things you mentioned,
are you saying you would not be interested in hearing it?Is information about God only important if you are the one delivering it?
Ed J
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 02 2010,16:42) No Ed, they have to be biblical, they have to be in an language every one can understand. Georg
Hi Georg,What do you mean by this? Please explain.
Ed J
Ed
What I mean is, your number system no one can understand, and therefore it provides no prove to any one, well, at least not to me.
Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 03 2010,02:47) Ed What I mean is, your number system no one can understand, and therefore it provides no prove to any one, well, at least not to me.
Georg
Hi Georg,You cannot understand a connection using numbers?
Number values carry no understandable meaning yo you?The “Divine=63” “Deity=63” of “The Bible=63” is “YHVH=63”!
YHVH is God's Name([יהוה]) transliterated into English; transliterated means sounds(phonics).“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], AND the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!
“God's Name” and “Title” God in Hebrew is located in the signature section at the bottom,
which translates into English as JEHOVAH GOD, and is phonetically pronounced.
You mean this is all incomprehendable to you?Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd
If God wanted us to understand his word by numbers, he would have given us all calculators long time ago.
Did Jesus command the apostles to go and preach in numbers? He said, go and preach the “gospel” for a witness; that alone people don't understand, they think it has to be preached for conversion, to be saved; that is not what witnessing means.
I don't play the lottery, but if you give me five numbers I will, I even split the pot with you.Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 03 2010,17:06) Ed 1) If God wanted us to understand his word by numbers,
he would have given us all calculators long time ago.2) Did Jesus command the apostles to go and preach in numbers?
3) He said, go and preach the “gospel” for a witness;
4) that alone people don't understand,
5) they think it has to be preached for conversion, to be saved; that is not what witnessing means.
6) I don't play the lottery,
7) but if you give me five numbers I will, I even split the pot with you.
Georg
Hi Georg,1) So if Jesus wanted English-Speaking people to have GOD's word,
he would have spoken in English. Can you NOT see your logic is faulty!2) Did you ever read the Gospel of Barnabas?
3) Correct.
4) That's all people don't understand. You admitted you don't understand number totals.
5) What does witnessing mean; please tell.
6) Great.
7) Rom.2:11: For there is no respect of persons with God.
James 2:9: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Matt.23:28: Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.Ed
I don't know if I should even bother responding to you. You have become a mixture of Nick, thinker, and terraricca.
I will only answer you to your question, what is witnessing?
The apostles were eyewitnesses to Jesus Christ, that he had lived, died, and was resurrected again; they were to preach the gospel, which was, and is the good news of the coming kingdom of God; they were to put others in charge to continue to do the same, once they were gone. However, what has happened over the Centuries in churches, the messenger of the savior, has become the savior. The good news has been replaced with a doctrine of threats; “except Jesus and come to church and you will go to heaven, or reject him and you will go to hell.”
Every body wants to be a savior, it has become a competition; who can save the most souls?
Churches have become stores were you can by your way into heaven, and as in every other business, the best advertising gets the best results.
Why do you think we have so many denominations?
How can all the ministers claim they have God's Holy Spirit, and preach a different message? do they not all preach from the same Bible?
Why is it that this apparently bothers no one?
And you see, this forum is only an extension from the churches, every body wants to get his message across, even if they have to distort, deny, or reject scripture.
You too, are not interested in truth because you too do not ask questions; you have only one interest, to bring you number system on the front page.
You too put up scriptures that have nothing to do with the subject to avoid having to say, you don't know.
Yes, I am very much disappointed with this forum.Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 04 2010,08:30) Ed I don't know if I should even bother responding to you. You have become a mixture of Nick, thinker, and terraricca.
I will only answer you to your question, what is witnessing?
The apostles were eyewitnesses to Jesus Christ, that he had lived, died, and was resurrected again; they were to preach the gospel, which was, and is the good news of the coming kingdom of God; they were to put others in charge to continue to do the same, once they were gone. However, what has happened over the Centuries in churches, the messenger of the savior, has become the savior. The good news has been replaced with a doctrine of threats; “except Jesus and come to church and you will go to heaven, or reject him and you will go to hell.”
Every body wants to be a savior, it has become a competition; who can save the most souls?
Churches have become stores were you can by your way into heaven, and as in every other business, the best advertising gets the best results.
Why do you think we have so many denominations?
How can all the ministers claim they have God's Holy Spirit, and preach a different message? do they not all preach from the same Bible?
Why is it that this apparently bothers no one?
And you see, this forum is only an extension from the churches, every body wants to get his message across, even if they have to distort, deny, or reject scripture.
You too, are not interested in truth because you too do not ask questions; you have only one interest, to bring you number system on the front page.
You too put up scriptures that have nothing to do with the subject to avoid having to say, you don't know.
Yes, I am very much disappointed with this forum.Georg
Hi Georg,I was glad to see you finally started to answer some of my questions, as I have been asking for your insight,
but became sorely disappointed to see you resort back to false accusations and opinionated bigotry.
I told you a NUMBER of times satan's 'title' is 'i am', and I can see by the usage of his title
in the context of your word structures that he has you very confused and unaware.You are at a very good forum to help remove satan's embedded confusion out of your mind.
I think if you would engage people a little in conversation a lot could be gained by it.
What did you hope would be gained by joining this forum, when you did sign up?
This is a serious question and I hope you will genuinely want to answer it.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd
Now that's a new twist, “I am” is Satan's title?
These are your words below.“””but became sorely disappointed to see you resort back to false accusations and opinionated bigotry.”””
Unless you produce prove of that, I have to call you “Satan and a LIAR”.
One way to remove Satan's embedded confusion would be by removing you from this forum.
Unless you have been on this forum under another name, I can say, I been here longer than you.
What I had hoped for was to find people who were interested in truth; in learning and sharing, by asking questions how some one came to a conclusion, and proving it with scripture; what I have found instead was nothing but opinions and arguing their validity of them without prove of any kind; twisting scriptures, or avoiding answering questions all together, which I accuse you of too. In fact, you again turn it around saying I do not answer you question, how many questions have I ask you? why did I compare you to Nick and thinker? because they too never answer question. To me that says only one thing, none of you know the answer but would never admit to that; so you do what you did this time, sneak out of the spot light. But you know what, “I AM” not even mad at you, you're just another disappointment.Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 04 2010,16:30) Ed Now that's a new twist, “I am” is Satan's title?
These are your words below.“””but became sorely disappointed to see you resort back to false accusations and opinionated bigotry.”””
Unless you produce prove of that, I have to call you “Satan and a LIAR”.
One way to remove Satan's embedded confusion would be by removing you from this forum.
Unless you have been on this forum under another name, I can say, I been here longer than you.
What I had hoped for was to find people who were interested in truth; in learning and sharing, by asking questions how some one came to a conclusion, and proving it with scripture; what I have found instead was nothing but opinions and arguing their validity of them without prove of any kind; twisting scriptures, or avoiding answering questions all together, which I accuse you of too. In fact, you again turn it around saying I do not answer you question, how many questions have I ask you? why did I compare you to Nick and thinker? because they too never answer question. To me that says only one thing, none of you know the answer but would never admit to that; so you do what you did this time, sneak out of the spot light. But you know what, “I AM” not even mad at you, you're just another disappointment.Georg
Hi Georg,I'm glad you do not take my words personally, they are only intended in helping establish “Bible Truth”!
It is my Job “only” to illustrate “Bible Truth” until fully understood by an individual.
If you don't want to believe that is your choice; I will not argue with you over Truth.
I will “only” defend my position when attacked. Here are some verses for you to consider…1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.Job 40:3 Then Job answered the LORD, and said, Behold, I am vile;
what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.*IN Chapters 8, 9 and 10 of “HolyCityBibleCode I explain why it is 'satan's title' in great detail.
Why would you threaten me? Does my zeal to illustrate “BibleTruth”
cause you to feel your beliefs are threatened in any way?Your Brother in Christ
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2010,17:25) edj blind,blind blind are you
Hi Terraricca,Isaiah 42:19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent?
who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD's servant?Isaiah 43:8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes,
and the deaf that have ears.John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin:
but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.Ed J
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