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Hi Edj,
Your more recent remark against me:
Quote You mean she's went against you too?
from here:
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….st=1620I reread your PM's to me from last spring and was reminded that you said that you will not open my PM's to you so do you want to work this obvious grievance that you have towards me out as the Lord would have us or not? If you do, then we can do it out in the open because I think you will be more honest and less likely to twist the story again. If you do not want to work it out then that is up to you but if I see your innuendoes about me that are false, I will have to post your PM's and layout the whole situation for all to see which may still end up happening if you do not own up to your poor and very uncalled for remarks in the past. I suppose, by how you respond, you will prove, as you claim, that you do not have an ego or that you do in fact have an ego.
How about it Edj?
Only truth sets us free Edj.
Here is where the situation began (9th post down from the top) for you information…
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=690
As I see any innuendoes or even what appears to be innuendoes about this situation that are planting what I see as a false impression about me, then I will add them here so that you can be more aware when you are writing them.
It is only my desire for truth to reign and not misunderstandings which can lead to destruction. What could have been a very small matter, you seemed to have turned it into bitterness and post comments like the above. That is what has prompted this new topic in the debate section.
Moderators:
If Edj cares to discuss this and get to the bottom of it then I invite all moderators to mediate as they see fit.Thanks!
Here is a PM from Edj to me that I received today. I want to not discuss this through pm's as I have said before because I believe it will help Edj be more honest. I take no delight in exposing any faults but I do believe there needs to be accountability especially since Edj keeps making derogatory remarks stemming back to this incident as linked to above. Edj needs to own his stuff for his own growth.
Quote Posted: Nov. 29 2010,23:42
Hi Kathi,You are starting up your negative posturing again.
You do not seek “reconciliation”, but ‘domination’;
your pompous attitude hasn’t changed one bit!
How can there be reconciliation without you?Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 24 2010,16:24)
Open your eyes and let the log fall out!
Only the truth is going to set you free,
not closing your eyes to your own behavior.
(Lightenup @ April 29 2010,06:14)
apologizing rather than the self-righteous approachDon’t you think it's about time for you to heed your own words?
That's all it takes for reconciliation, no more no less! (Matt.7:2)Your brother in
Christ, Jesus
Ed JSo, I will respond to that PM here.
Edj said:
Quote You are starting up your negative posturing again.
But Edj do you not acknowledge that you make derogatory comments about me to others, stemming from you not liking that I accused you of hacking up my post? Do you not acknowledge the one most recently made which I quoted above? I don't believe that I bring this up unless you make some uncalled for degratory remark. You are the one that initiates this but then make comments like the one quoted here. Do you see how you twist things as if I am the one initiating the negativity?Quote You do not seek “reconciliation”, but ‘domination’;
your pompous attitude hasn’t changed one bit!I am only seeking for you to acknowledge the truth, not domination and it is not with a pompous attitude. Realize that I am not the one initiating the negativity. Go back to the beginning of the problem, see the link above to the “answering jodi lee's nonsense' thread and read it carefully. You never acknowledge any wrong doing even though you clearly were wrong and several told you so. This really could have been handled with a simple “Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that I misrepresented your post” and it would have been forgotten but instead you claimed that I was censoring you and taking away your freedom of speech. You have always responded with arrogance instead of humility. Even now you continue the same approach, Edj.
Quote How can there be reconciliation without you? I don't think we had much of a 'relationship' to reconcile in the first place. I never really was on your wavelength, ya know, so I don't know if we have anything to reconcile but I do think that you should own that you were the one who was wrong, for your own growth and to stop the derogatory remarks on your part. I had put it past me but your remarks keep bringing that up and demonstrating that you need to deal with it.
You use this verse:
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.Well, I do hope that if I had done what you did then someone will take the time to prove it and not just accuse me of it so that I can see the truth like I am trying to do with you and have tried to do with you in the beginning.
You have been collecting my comments in unrelated posts, well let's look at them:
Open your eyes and let the log fall out!Maybe you can enlighten me Edj, I never hacked up your posts, have I? You are the one that did that.
Only the truth is going to set you free,
not closing your eyes to your own behavior.I agree. I am well aware that I have not been the instigator here and I am free.
apologizing rather than the self-righteous approach
If I had hacked up your posts and knew you were troubled by it, I would have apologized and been careful not to do it again. I am not the one that did that though. If you think that I should apologize to you please make a statement that you believe that I am unjustly guilty of so that I can take it before the Holy Spirit and if He convicts me, I will certainly apologize.
Quote Don’t you think it's about time for you to heed your own words?
That's all it takes for reconciliation, no more no less!Do you even see how you have tried to turn this around and accuse me of wrong doing? That is the problem Edj, several told you that you were wrong but you never admitted it or humbled yourself in light of it. You did just the opposite.
Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2010,08:16) So, I will respond to that PM here. Edj said:
Quote You are starting up your negative posturing again.
But Edj do you not acknowledge that you make derogatory comments about me to others, stemming from you not liking that I accused you of hacking up my post? Do you not acknowledge the one most recently made which I quoted above? I don't believe that I bring this up unless you make some uncalled for degratory remark. You are the one that initiates this but then make comments like the one quoted here. Do you see how you twist things as if I am the one initiating the negativity?Quote You do not seek “reconciliation”, but ‘domination’;
your pompous attitude hasn’t changed one bit!I am only seeking for you to acknowledge the truth, not domination and it is not with a pompous attitude. Realize that I am not the one initiating the negativity. Go back to the beginning of the problem, see the link above to the “answering jodi lee's nonsense' thread and read it carefully. You never acknowledge any wrong doing even though you clearly were wrong and several told you so. This really could have been handled with a simple “Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that I misrepresented your post” and it would have been forgotten but instead you claimed that I was censoring you and taking away your freedom of speech. You have always responded with arrogance instead of humility. Even now you continue the same approach, Edj.
Quote How can there be reconciliation without you? I don't think we had much of a 'relationship' to reconcile in the first place. I never really was on your wavelength, ya know, so I don't know if we have anything to reconcile but I do think that you should own that you were the one who was wrong, for your own growth and to stop the derogatory remarks on your part. I had put it past me but your remarks keep bringing that up and demonstrating that you need to deal with it.
You use this verse:
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.Well, I do hope that if I had done what you did then someone will take the time to prove it and not just accuse me of it so that I can see the truth like I am trying to do with you and have tried to do with you in the beginning.
You have been collecting my comments in unrelated posts, well let's look at them:
Open your eyes and let the log fall out!Maybe you can enlighten me Edj, I never hacked up your posts, have I? You are the one that did that.
Only the truth is going to set you free,
not closing your eyes to your own behavior.I agree. I am well aware that I have not been the instigator here and I am free.
apologizing rather than the self-righteous approach
If I had hacked up your posts and knew you were troubled by it, I would have apologized and been careful not to do it again. I am not the one that did that though. If you think that I should apologize to you please make a statement that you believe that I am unjustly guilty of so that I can take it before the Holy Spirit and if He convicts me, I will certainly apologize.
Quote Don’t you think it's about time for you to heed your own words?
That's all it takes for reconciliation, no more no less!Do you even see how you have tried to turn this around and accuse me of wrong doing? That is the problem Edj, several told you that you were wrong but you never admitted it or humbled yourself in light of it. You did just the opposite.
Greetings Kathi…..There is alot to be learned here,it is obvious that you put a considerable amount of thought into your posts, and I must say,your conviction is evident..Ed is head on into his research and is convinced he is doing Gods work by virtue of a decree from God himself…If you can take the time to step back and examine the measure of hubris here that you are attempting to engage while defending yourself it will become evident that it is not worth it and there id no satisfaction to be gleened….If Ed is the one to prove God exists….I would think that he is on the wrong website…The one thing I think every participant in this forum with the exception of one or two is we agree that God Is…Now back to the more mundane….I need to know about the creed and the source of its scriptual roots…Hi Ted, I agree and thanks for your input. Do you want to find a topic already started on the Nicene Creed so we can discuss it?
This topic is where I will add Edj's derogatory comments about me which are totally unprovoked, as I happen upon them.
Apparently Edj, you need the 'rules' that say to quote other's with respect to their words and intentions or you don't have to quote others with respect. What about the golden rule? What if I quoted you and took out your numbers or changed them and then claimed that there were no rules that said that I couldn't do that? I am only bringing this up because I came across another derogatory comment tonight that you made regarding this, not that I was looking for it. Please know this, I do not need your apology, but you need to apologize for your own spiritual health. I have forgiven you.
Here is what you wrote this recently:
Quote
Hi SF,You don't get to make up 'rules' here
any more than Kathi 'thinks' that she gets to!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
from here:https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….6;st=30
Edj, I nearly choked on my dinner when I read your post which said this:
Quote Hi SF, Matt.18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.So you consider a second “witness” as foolishness?
1Cor.1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews
a “stumbling”(117)block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;That confirmeth the word of his servant(Ed J),
and performeth the counsel of his messengers; (Isaiah 44:26)found here: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=22;t=3686;st=40
Edj, you are a confused person. You have had at least 3 witnesses besides me that spoke to you about your error from the situation referred to in the first post in this topic and all you did was get defensive and 8 months later you are still whining. So that verse Matt 18:16 doesn't apply to you when the 3 witnesses speak to you about your error? You need to deal with this since it obviously is on your mind and you keep talking about it out of the blue. You have something against me but you don't seem to realize your bad behavior even after the witnesses replied to you about this. Maybe you should have a friend who can give you an honest, unbiased opinion look over the situation to help you open your eyes. It might surprise you and you might learn something about yourself and then you might stop making your derogatory comments sporadically and cowardly throughout the forum. How about it?
Another of your derogatory comments…a problem you have that you are NOT dealing with.
Quote I have also taken this type of stand against Kathi, (her 'false truth') regarding my ethics in Posting.
At first you, having backed her up, were playing the roll of 'ACCUSER'(satan) against me.But now that you understand my intentions are pure;
you (as a site Monitor) have backed me up
on several occasions here a h-net.Both Mike and Shimmer have done to my Posts,
what Kathi accused me of doing to her Posts.
But the difference was: I did not accuse,
I instead dealt with 'the problem'!
from: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y278282Maybe I should be flattered that you dwell on this Ed. Why don't you want to DEAL with this? You bring this up so much.
I am glad that you admit that what you did was a 'problem' that is the first step in the right direction that you have taken.
Now a PM from Edj:
Quote Hi Kathi, I have tried to deal with this issue on many occasions!
But you refuse to accept what it will take to make it go away.
Until you do I will continue to reach out to you in the spirit of LOVE!Your brother in
Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Rom.12:18)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
PS> You have my permission to Post this in your 'slanderous thread'.You aren't dealing with it very effectively are you? You keep bringing it up. Maybe you should try going all over the forum making derogatory, slanderous comments about me to others…oh wait, you are already doing that…hmmm…that hasn't been working too well for you though…maybe you could get a friend to bear witness to me and show me my error and handle it like God would have you. I have already done that step with you but it didn't work. Maybe t8 can help us?
t8 would you care to comment?
Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 26 2010,12:26) Another of your derogatory comments…a problem you have that you are NOT dealing with. Quote (<—————————————>) I have also taken this type of stand against Kathi, (her 'false truth') regarding my ethics in Posting.
At first you, having backed her up, were playing the roll of 'ACCUSER'(satan) against me.But now that you understand my intentions are pure;
you (as a site Monitor) have backed me up
on several occasions here a h-net.Both Mike and Shimmer have done to my Posts,
what Kathi accused me of doing to her Posts.
But the difference was: I did not accuse,
I instead dealt with 'the problem'!
from: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y278282Maybe I should be flattered that you dwell on this Ed. Why don't you want to DEAL with this? You bring this up so much.
I am glad that you admit that what you did was a 'problem' that is the first step in the right direction that you have taken.
The root of Hypocrisy! (Click Here)
Romans 2:3: And thinkest thou this, O man(?),
that judgest them which do such things, and doest
the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Ezek.28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, i am God?
but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.
Isa.41:23-24 Show the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that
ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.
That confirmeth the word of his servant(Ed J), and performeth the counsel of his messengers. (Isaiah 44:26)Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2010,08:16)
I accused you of hacking up my postQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,11:40) Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 26 2010,10:48) Jesus will make a public Spectacle of…
when their laws are shown to be worthless.
I have also taken this type of stand against Kathi, (her 'false truth') regarding my ethics in Posting.
At first you, having backed her up, were playing the roll of 'ACCUSER'(satan) against me.But now that you understand my intentions are pure;
you (as a site Monitor) have backed me up
on several occasions here a h-net.Both Mike and Shimmer have done to my Posts,
what Kathi accused me of doing to her Posts.
But the difference was: I did not accuse,
I instead dealt with 'the problem'!Your “Spiritual” brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (JustAskin @ Dec. 26 2010,10:48) MA, it is always hard to work against tradition.
Hi JustAskin,Yes; you taking such a stand, is the very cause of
what has gotten you in trouble on this Forum!
You are correct in “taking a stand against”
false truths, however you failed in your
delivery against these 'false truths'.Instead of separating the 'false truth'
from the person delivering it, your failure
is directly caused by “Lambasting” the person
delivering such 'false truths'(protected by satan!).I personally have taken many stands “HERE” against 'false truths'! The only reason
I have never gotten kicked off of h-net., or even received 'one warning block'
is because I fight in the “Spiritual realm” and LOVE in the “Physical realm”.
Otherwise I would have gotten kicked off of this site a long time ago!Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 23 2010,11:07)
when the 3 witnesses speak to you about your error?Rom.3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou(Ed J)
mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. (Isaiah 54:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2010,15:11) Well, I guess I don't understand the wording, “The LORD is Himself according to His divinity”. What does that even mean? Anyway, the word translated as “LORD”, as you know, is Jehovah. The scripture says that Jesus will rule in the strength of Jehovah, his God. Not his own strength.
Kathi, have you forgotten how to just read scripture and take it for what it says? You keep looking up these men's writings, and applying their flawed understanding in an effort to make what the scripture plainly says mean something else.
goodnight,
mike
Hi Mike,There are many who mis-understand what Matt.18:16 really means!
Matt.18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word “[ [ [ may ] ] ] be established”.This does NOT mean that if you don't believe me
I will go and get Bob and Pete and they will tell you
the same thing, so you better believe what I tell you!
This is a common fallacy, believed by many BABY Christians.What Matt.18:16 really means is: when someone hears “Bible Truth” spoken by more than one,
but using different words, the truth hits home in the ears of the hearer, helping to establish truth for them!Confirming words of truth is also what 1Cor.14:24 means…
1Corinthians 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that
believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ Nov. 20 2010,18:09) Ed J. Thank you for the compliment.
You too show your maturity
by the way you address me and others.
Hi Everyone,This thread is meant as a means of defaming my character!
I use this Post (from Kerwin) as “a character witness” of myself.
Carefully read the last two Posts of this thread as my defense here!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,14:59) Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 26 2010,10:48) MA, it is always hard to work against tradition.
Hi JustAskin,Yes; you taking such a stand, is the very cause of
what has gotten you in trouble on this Forum!
You are correct in “taking a stand against”
false truths, however you failed in your
delivery against these 'false truths'.Instead of separating the 'false truth'
from the person delivering it, your failure
is directly caused by “Lambasting” the person
delivering such 'false truths'(protected by satan!).I personally have taken many stands “HERE” against 'false truths'! The only reason
I have never gotten kicked off of h-net., or even received 'one warning block'
is because I fight in the “Spiritual realm” and LOVE in the “Physical realm”.
Otherwise I would have gotten kicked off of this site a long time ago!Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 23 2010,11:07)
when the 3 witnesses speak to you about your error?Rom.3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou(Ed J)
mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. (Isaiah 54:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2010,15:11) Well, I guess I don't understand the wording, “The LORD is Himself according to His divinity”. What does that even mean? Anyway, the word translated as “LORD”, as you know, is Jehovah. The scripture says that Jesus will rule in the strength of Jehovah, his God. Not his own strength.
Kathi, have you forgotten how to just read scripture and take it for what it says? You keep looking up these men's writings, and applying their flawed understanding in an effort to make what the scripture plainly says mean something else.
goodnight,
mike
Hi Mike,There are many who mis-understand what Matt.18:16 really means!
Matt.18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word “[ [ [ may ] ] ] be established”.This does NOT mean that if you don't believe me
I will go and get Bob and Pete and they will tell you
the same thing, so you better believe what I tell you!
This is a common fallacy, believed by many BABY Christians.What Matt.18:16 really means is: when someone hears “Bible Truth” spoken by more than one,
but using different words, the truth hits home in the ears of the hearer, helping to establish truth for them!Confirming words of truth is also what 1Cor.14:24 means…
1Corinthians 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that
believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This one.Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,14:58) Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 26 2010,12:26) Another of your derogatory comments…a problem you have that you are NOT dealing with. Quote (<—————————————>) I have also taken this type of stand against Kathi, (her 'false truth') regarding my ethics in Posting.
At first you, having backed her up, were playing the roll of 'ACCUSER'(satan) against me.But now that you understand my intentions are pure;
you (as a site Monitor) have backed me up
on several occasions here a h-net.Both Mike and Shimmer have done to my Posts,
what Kathi accused me of doing to her Posts.
But the difference was: I did not accuse,
I instead dealt with 'the problem'!
from: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y278282Maybe I should be flattered that you dwell on this Ed. Why don't you want to DEAL with this? You bring this up so much.
I am glad that you admit that what you did was a 'problem' that is the first step in the right direction that you have taken.
The root of Hypocrisy! (Click Here)
Romans 2:3: And thinkest thou this, O man(?),
that judgest them which do such things, and doest
the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Ezek.28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, i am God?
but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.
Isa.41:23-24 Show the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that
ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.
That confirmeth the word of his servant(Ed J), and performeth the counsel of his messengers. (Isaiah 44:26)Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2010,08:16)
I accused you of hacking up my postQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,11:40) Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 26 2010,10:48) Jesus will make a public Spectacle of…
when their laws are shown to be worthless.
I have also taken this type of stand against Kathi, (her 'false truth') regarding my ethics in Posting.
At first you, having backed her up, were playing the roll of 'ACCUSER'(satan) against me.But now that you understand my intentions are pure;
you (as a site Monitor) have backed me up
on several occasions here a h-net.Both Mike and Shimmer have done to my Posts,
what Kathi accused me of doing to her Posts.
But the difference was: I did not accuse,
I instead dealt with 'the problem'!Your “Spiritual” brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EveryoneThis one Proves that she and others do and have done
the very same thing that I stand accused of doing.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (theodorej @ Dec. 01 2010,18:52)
Greetings Kathi…..There is alot to be learned here,it is obvious that you put a considerable amount of thought into your posts, and I must say,your conviction is evident..Ed is head on into his research and is convinced he is doing Gods work by virtue of a decree from God himself…If you can take the time to step back and examine the measure of hubris here that you are attempting to engage while defending yourself it will become evident that it is not worth it and there id no satisfaction to be gleened….If Ed is the one to prove God exists….I would think that he is on the wrong website…The one thing I think every participant in this forum with the exception of one or two is we agree that God Is…Now back to the more mundane….I need to know about the creed and the source of its scriptual roots…
Hi Theodore J,God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)This website here, has a stored database of 6,300 Posts of mine so far.
These Posts can be accessed by countless people now and in the future.
Here is a quote from the site owner, who I very much consider A FRIEND!Quote
The site contains content resulting from a thirst and passion for truth,
so some of the content may seem controversial to some religiously bound people.
The idea is to do God's will and shun All man-made tradition which is founded in the fear of man.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (shimmer @ Dec. 26 2010,20:06) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2010,07:05) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 25 2010,21:50) A simple yes or no will NOT do!
Your question cannot be answered with a yes or a no?
Hi Ed,I thought the same thing when I saw Shimmer's post.
But we all know what she meant, right? She's looking for a DIRECT answer to her question, not more of your numbers I think.
peace and love,
mike
Ha ha thanks. Thats exactly what I meant. A short and simple answer, and not post after post, and on topic, not going off into other things, which is why Ed I was carefull what I quoted of yours. I also gave a link to your whole thread, so people could read the whole thing if they wanted to. So why do you have a problem that I only quoted part of what was on your thread ? If you have a problem with it, report it. Then maybe you wont be feeling so angry with me.
Hi Shimmer,I'm actually glad you did it! (Click Here) <– Eighth Post
I don't consider it a problem that you only quoted part of my Post,
but you left out the part that related directly to the question you asked me!
As I told you before: I eliminated anger out of my life long ago! (Col.3:8 / James 1:20)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgWell Edj,
At least you came to the topic but you are addressing others when you need to work this out with me. I find that strange.
Also, as I have explained to you before, I don't have a problem with anyone quoting part of a post especially when the rest of the quote is referenced, I have a problem with quoting only part of a whole thought or list and not representing the complete thought or complete list and changing the numbers or words. That can lead to 'distortion of truth' down the road in the thread. Also, I have a problem when you change the quote of mine that was within someone's post that they are referring to. I can't even do that with my editing rights on my own words and they are my words because that can lead to further 'distortion of truth.' I have explained all that to you before and 'your friend' t8 gave you a warning which you did not respect and other witnesses made like claims against you as you can see if you revisit the original thread where this happened.
This thread is not meant to defame your character but to give you an opportunity to settle your grievances with me. If you feel defamed it maybe because I am quoting you and your own words are defaming your character. For instance, you quoted Kerwin who said that you showed maturity by how you address him and others. Well, here is a couple of pm's that you sent to me right after you were given the warning by t8:
Quote Posted: May 28 2010,02:15
Hi Kathi,Are you on the forum to deceive? Are you one of the many spoken of in Mark 13:6?
Mark 13:6: For many shall come in my name, saying, i am; and shall deceive many.‘i am’=23 (mark 13:6)
John 16: 2-3 …whosoever killeth you (Ed J) will think that he (or she)
doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you (Ed J),
because they have not known the Father(יהוה), nor me(יהשוע).Since you don’t like how I respond to your Posts, here’s what I’m going to do…
1) Ignore ‘all’ your Posts on the forum to me.
2) Only respond to your Posts (to me) via PM (to you).
3) Anything you have against any of my beliefs Post it on one of the threads I started, because…
4) I will NOT open any PM by you to me (or anyone else prompted by you to me either).Ed J
PS> You complaining will NOT change ANYTHING!
And stay out of my business, meaning my Posts to others.
(something you were not able to do in the past!)That “Posts to others” you mentioned was the one where they were quoting me and you deleted part of my quote that they were quoting me about. You seem to think that was not my business yet it was my quote so that makes it my business. When you do that and then others quote your whole post which includes my partial quote because you deleted half of it, that can lead to all sorts of 'distortion of truth.'
Found here:
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=740And then, after I did not respond to your pm…you sent this one next:
Quote Posted: June 03 2010,01:59
Hi Kathi,If you genuinely seek unity with me as your Post suggests,
then all you have to do is “exactly” what you asked me to do! (Matt.7:2)
Otherwise things will remain axactly as I pointed out to you in my last PM to you.God bless
Ed J (Eccl.9:14-16)
PS> You have my permission to PM Karmarie about me; OK? (Prob.11:13)
Also count six Posts up from yours and you will find this…Quote (Ed J @ June 03 2010,16:27)
Hi LU… (except here it says WJ),Yea, it's because I seek agreement and continuity in the body of Christ, while others don't; (Philip.1:15)
thinking instead they can get people to 'submit' to their (satanic) demands!As you can plainly see I haven't submitted to your LUcifer demands! Nor will I!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
I suppose that what you refer to as my 'satanic demands' was that you stop hacking my posts and quotes of my posts and apologize for slinging the derogatory insults.
So you admit that you will not apologize or stop with the offensive remarks but insist that I am the one that needs to apologize. I have asked you to form a statement of what you think I should say in my apology and I will take it to the Holy Spirit to see if He agrees. You haven't done that, have you. I do not feel like I owe you an apology, in fact, I don't enable someone that did wrong with an apology just to make him feel better. If you think I was wrong then bring your two witnesses that agree with you so we can all discuss this.
Edj,
Let me refresh your memory of the rules of this forum as per 'Heaven.'Quote
You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not engage in the following:
1. Spamming, flooding, or flaming in the forums.
2. Posting false/inaccurate or defamatory posts.
3. Being abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, or threatening to others.
4. Being invasive of a person's privacy.
5. Posting inaccurate statements about a person.
6. Posting or starting topics that contain obscene or sexual content or links.
7. Pushing doctrines that are not related to the topic. (Pushing them in an appropriate topic is OK.)
8. Starting a topic that is not appropriate for the Category. In such cases, a topic can be moved to the appropriate topic and may result in the topic starter being moved to an appropriate member group.Members can be banned for engaging in any of the above.
found here: https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=15;t=482
Now, you have done #2, #3, and #5 to me as anyone can see in the quotes of your words as you attempt to slander me in other threads as you speak ABOUT me to OTHERS. I have posted only a few of those slanderous quotes of yours in this topic, read it through. They are YOUR words Edj that defame your character.
Kathi and Ed! Are you both Christians? Well both of you don't sound like it. Some times we just have to take it in stride and don't discuss it any further. Kathi give it up to God. If you feel insulted let God take care of it. Does it make any sense to go on and on?
?Did Jesus do that? No IMO
Peace to both of you, IreneIrene,
I am not the one that says anything about it except after about 6 months of Edj making slanderous comments about me to others and then I offer this thread to take care of it. What would you do if someone kept making slanderous comments to others about you, just take it in stride? I don't think so. I am hoping it will stop the slanderous comments so that they don't go on and on. I think that it is hateful for Edj to keep bringing my name up throughout the forum with slander to others. Don't you think that should be stopped?Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 25 2010,23:31) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,14:59) Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 26 2010,10:48) MA, it is always hard to work against tradition.
Hi JustAskin,Yes; you taking such a stand, is the very cause of
what has gotten you in trouble on this Forum!
You are correct in “taking a stand against”
false truths, however you failed in your
delivery against these 'false truths'.Instead of separating the 'false truth'
from the person delivering it, your failure
is directly caused by “Lambasting” the person
delivering such 'false truths'(protected by satan!).I personally have taken many stands “HERE” against 'false truths'! The only reason
I have never gotten kicked off of h-net., or even received 'one warning block'
is because I fight in the “Spiritual realm” and LOVE in the “Physical realm”.
Otherwise I would have gotten kicked off of this site a long time ago!Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 23 2010,11:07)
when the 3 witnesses speak to you about your error?Rom.3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou(Ed J)
mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. (Isaiah 54:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2010,15:11) Well, I guess I don't understand the wording, “The LORD is Himself according to His divinity”. What does that even mean? Anyway, the word translated as “LORD”, as you know, is Jehovah. The scripture says that Jesus will rule in the strength of Jehovah, his God. Not his own strength.
Kathi, have you forgotten how to just read scripture and take it for what it says? You keep looking up these men's writings, and applying their flawed understanding in an effort to make what the scripture plainly says mean something else.
goodnight,
mike
Hi Mike,There are many who mis-understand what Matt.18:16 really means!
Matt.18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word “[ [ [ may ] ] ] be established”.This does NOT mean that if you don't believe me
I will go and get Bob and Pete and they will tell you
the same thing, so you better believe what I tell you!
This is a common fallacy, believed by many BABY Christians.What Matt.18:16 really means is: when someone hears “Bible Truth” spoken by more than one,
but using different words, the truth hits home in the ears of the hearer, helping to establish truth for them!Confirming words of truth is also what 1Cor.14:24 means…
1Corinthians 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that
believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This one.
And this is interesting Edj,This is an example of your misrepresenting people when you quote them. Please note where you quoted me…it is a half of a complete sentence and does not give you a link.
Also, I find it amazing how in your PM that I have posted here about your complaining that I should stay out of your business, meaning your posts to others, and then you clearly show how Mike was addressing me when you butted into the conversation as if it were your business. Read your comment to Mike and see who he was speaking to…not you. I am not the one complaining about someone interjecting something within two people's conversation, but I am merely pointing out where you get into other people's business and have the nerve to not get into a conversation you are having with another. Again, it was MY words that the two of you were discussing which does make it my business. With Mike, you weren't being discussed.
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