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Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:56) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:43) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:35) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:32) Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks. It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Hi Mandy:There will also be a day of judgment coming after the Lord comes for the church. God will also not spare then anything that belongs to the wicked then either.
You mean more babies have to die?What if they were baptized as babies – does that count?
Hi Mandy:Babies die every day. Death is a reality, but children of those who are saved will also be saved, but the children of the wicked will not be saved. However, it is the parents who are being judged.
The scripture states “He who believes and is baptized shall be saved”. Can an infant believe? A child is the responsibility of the parents. Children of parents who are saved are also saved as long as they are in the parents control or until they are old enough to exercise their faith on their own.
“God will not spare what belongs to the wicked either.” So you say. So you say, “Babies die everyday”. There is a huge difference between babies dying and babies being slain by God because of their parents wickedness. They are too young for faith and so what? they are killed anyway as a form of justice. Are you really listening to this?Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,12:04) Hi not3,
Did you think life in the body was the big issue?
A short and passing moment.
Sorry Nick, lame excuse for killing children and babies for their parents wickedness.First of all, as a parent, who would set their kids up to fail in the first place? I mean, I know my son loves chocolate so I'm not going to put him in a room with green beans and chocolate and ask him to make the right choice for dinner. I know he will choose what taste better. Why do that to a kid?
So he can proove to me that he loves me enough to make the right choice (knowing that I want him to eat green instead of brown?).Shaking head….
Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,12:02) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:56) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:43) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:35) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:32) Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks. It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Hi Mandy:There will also be a day of judgment coming after the Lord comes for the church. God will also not spare then anything that belongs to the wicked then either.
You mean more babies have to die?What if they were baptized as babies – does that count?
Hi Mandy:Babies die every day. Death is a reality, but children of those who are saved will also be saved, but the children of the wicked will not be saved. However, it is the parents who are being judged.
The scripture states “He who believes and is baptized shall be saved”. Can an infant believe? A child is the responsibility of the parents. Children of parents who are saved are also saved as long as they are in the parents control or until they are old enough to exercise their faith on their own.
“God will not spare what belongs to the wicked either.” So you say. So you say, “Babies die everyday”. There is a huge difference between babies dying and babies being slain by God because of their parents wickedness. They are too young for faith and so what? they are killed anyway as a form of justice. Are you really listening to this?
Hi Mandy:Children are the responsibility of their parents. God is not willing that any man should perish, but there will be that day when the open door will be shut tight. Did God spare the children of the wicked in the Flood?
Quote 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2Pe 3:10 ¶ But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 [Seeing] then [that] all these things shall be dissolved, what manner [of persons] ought ye to be in [all] holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,12:08) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,12:04) Hi not3,
Did you think life in the body was the big issue?
A short and passing moment.
Sorry Nick, lame excuse for killing children and babies for their parents wickedness.First of all, as a parent, who would set their kids up to fail in the first place? I mean, I know my son loves chocolate so I'm not going to put him in a room with green beans and chocolate and ask him to make the right choice for dinner. I know he will choose what taste better. Why do that to a kid?
So he can proove to me that he loves me enough to make the right choice (knowing that I want him to eat green instead of brown?).Shaking head….
Hi mandy,
Do you think God should follow a moral law given to men?
How are you able to judge Him?
Bad company..Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,12:45) Children are the responsibility of their parents. God is not willing that any man should perish, but there will be that day when the open door will be shut tight. Did God spare the children of the wicked in the Flood?
So our lives and perhaps our souls are in the hands of our parents? Woe unto those children born unto the wicked, the infidel, the heretic. God will not evidently spare them, the sins of the fathers then fall unto the sons eh? So life is patently unfair as the circumstances of birth determine your fate. God must hate a lot of souls to stack the deck so against them, or is it a random process of who's unfortunate enough to be born to such folks.But I think you all have a very narrow and negative view of the Almighty. King Herod would be proud.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,13:51) Hi mandy,
Do you think God should follow a moral law given to men?
How are you able to judge Him?
Bad company..
Once again you make the false assumption that we are judging the Almighty, we are not, we are calling into question those who claim the Almighty would consider infants wicked by virtue of their parents and sanction extreme violence against same. I would almost consider such blasphemy to ascribe such to the Creator. You criticize the followers of Moloch and Bhaal as demonic for child sacrifice, yet you say the almighty countences the purposeful killing of infants, outrageous.Hi cato,
God is good.
Are you if Jesus would not let it be said about him?
If not why would you move to blaspheme the Living God of the Bible?Quote (Cato @ April 12 2008,18:03) 1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'So God rendered judgement on the wicked Children, Infants and animals?
Yes, those animals and infants weren't bowing to Yahweh.Quote (Not3in1 @ April 12 2008,18:34) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:27) Quote (Cato @ April 13 2008,11:03) 1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'So God rendered judgement on the wicked Children, Infants and animals?
Hi Cato:Children are the responsibility of their parents. If the parents are wicked, their children will not be spared either.
So glad that rule doesn't apply now……think of all the children who would be wiped out. Ridiculous, if you really think about it.
In today's society, if parents are truly “wicked”, the children are taken away from them, not thrown in prison with their parents. Sadly, they may end up in foster care with a less than promising future, but they are not put in jail. At least they are given some chance to make a better life.Not so in the OT. Yahweh either kills the children or has the Israelites kill them.
Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,18:56) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:43) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:35) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:32) Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks. It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Hi Mandy:There will also be a day of judgment coming after the Lord comes for the church. God will also not spare then anything that belongs to the wicked then either.
You mean more babies have to die?What if they were baptized as babies – does that count?
Hi Mandy:Babies die every day. Death is a reality, but children of those who are saved will also be saved, but the children of the wicked will not be saved. However, it is the parents who are being judged.
The scripture states “He who believes and is baptized shall be saved”. Can an infant believe? A child is the responsibility of the parents. Children of parents who are saved are also saved as long as they are in the parents control or until they are old enough to exercise their faith on their own.
Children of save parents are saved? Even when I was a Christian I knew this was bunk. There is absolutely no scriptural support for this 94.Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,19:45) Hi Mandy: Children are the responsibility of their parents. God is not willing that any man should perish, but there will be that day when the open door will be shut tight. Did God spare the children of the wicked in the Flood?
Are your parents Christians 94? What if you had been born in Saudia Arabia?You are saying that some children will NEVER have a chance because of their birth circumstances. How can you have such a gloomy view of life?
Oh, nevermind, I know…
God said murder all of the people. Men, little old women, their daughters and and their daughters small sons. Rip out the babies from the bellies of the pregnant women and crush their little skulls against the rocks. Hack up the little boys into small bits with the sword.
Leave nothing alive except the little virgin girls. Those you can keep for your own pleasure. God is good.I think that I feel ill.
It sickens me that so many of you can read this garbage and say that it is God being just and merciful.
That is not blind faith, it is brain death.Tim
Quote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,22:04) Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,18:56) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:43) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:35) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:32) Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks. It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Hi Mandy:There will also be a day of judgment coming after the Lord comes for the church. God will also not spare then anything that belongs to the wicked then either.
You mean more babies have to die?What if they were baptized as babies – does that count?
Hi Mandy:Babies die every day. Death is a reality, but children of those who are saved will also be saved, but the children of the wicked will not be saved. However, it is the parents who are being judged.
The scripture states “He who believes and is baptized shall be saved”. Can an infant believe? A child is the responsibility of the parents. Children of parents who are saved are also saved as long as they are in the parents control or until they are old enough to exercise their faith on their own.
Children of save parents are saved? Even when I was a Christian I knew this was bunk. There is absolutely no scriptural support for this 94.
I am basing my statement on the below scriptures:Quote 1Cr 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. Quote Eph 6:1 ¶ Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise;)
Eph 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earthQuote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,22:09) Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,19:45) Hi Mandy: Children are the responsibility of their parents. God is not willing that any man should perish, but there will be that day when the open door will be shut tight. Did God spare the children of the wicked in the Flood?
Are your parents Christians 94? What if you had been born in Saudia Arabia?You are saying that some children will NEVER have a chance because of their birth circumstances. How can you have such a gloomy view of life?
Oh, nevermind, I know…
KJ:My parents were Catholic, and they taught me about God and the Lord Jesus, but I did not have a personal relationship with Him until I was 38 years old.
Saudi Arabia for the most part is a Muslim nation. Muslims believe that Jesus is the Messiah, but they don't believe that Jesus is the Son of the living God, and so, they have heard the gospel message, but they do not believe. Their children are their responsibility as long as they are with them.
Quote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,22:04) Quote (942767 @ April 12 2008,18:56) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:43) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,11:35) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,11:32) Oh, sorry, I see you just responded. Thanks. It doesn't seem quite just, but then again, most of the killings seem like there could have been another way. Ironic how God tells us not to murder and then….
Hi Mandy:There will also be a day of judgment coming after the Lord comes for the church. God will also not spare then anything that belongs to the wicked then either.
You mean more babies have to die?What if they were baptized as babies – does that count?
Hi Mandy:Babies die every day. Death is a reality, but children of those who are saved will also be saved, but the children of the wicked will not be saved. However, it is the parents who are being judged.
The scripture states “He who believes and is baptized shall be saved”. Can an infant believe? A child is the responsibility of the parents. Children of parents who are saved are also saved as long as they are in the parents control or until they are old enough to exercise their faith on their own.
Children of save parents are saved? Even when I was a Christian I knew this was bunk. There is absolutely no scriptural support for this 94.
Hi KJ,
1Cor 7 shows that children are sanctified by their believing parents.Having said that the time that Jesus said to let the little children come to him. So as soon as they are aware and able to understand the call of Jesus and willing to come to him the door for them to eternity is open.
Jesus told us the kingdom belongs to such as these. Adults are too proud and intellectual often to obey the simple call.
Quote (TimothyVI @ April 14 2008,01:45) God said murder all of the people. Men, little old women, their daughters and and their daughters small sons. Rip out the babies from the bellies of the pregnant women and crush their little skulls against the rocks. Hack up the little boys into small bits with the sword.
Leave nothing alive except the little virgin girls. Those you can keep for your own pleasure. God is good.I think that I feel ill.
It sickens me that so many of you can read this garbage and say that it is God being just and merciful.
That is not blind faith, it is brain death.Tim
Hi Tim4
But you said this in another thread.
“Mandy,
I pray all is well.Tim “
So to whom do you pray?
Quote (TimothyVI @ April 14 2008,01:45) God said murder all of the people. Men, little old women, their daughters and and their daughters small sons. Rip out the babies from the bellies of the pregnant women and crush their little skulls against the rocks. Hack up the little boys into small bits with the sword.
Leave nothing alive except the little virgin girls. Those you can keep for your own pleasure. God is good.I think that I feel ill.
It sickens me that so many of you can read this garbage and say that it is God being just and merciful.
That is not blind faith, it is brain death.Tim
Hi Tim:Where are these scriptures to which you are referring? And let's take a look at them in context.
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