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- July 2, 2015 at 8:49 am#800509DavidLParticipant
No, of course not..!!
Jesus as a man was referring to His Father as the only true God..
He was not denying His own divinity but affirming the Trueness of God as was done in the OT.If you take one or two verses on a subject and then use them to interpret all others (a practice called “proof-texting” which is done on this site to denounce the Trinity), you may manage to get an interpretation that is in agreement with your own theological position – but in reality you completely misrepresent the truth as revealed in the whole of Scripture.
Remember that Jesus is both God and man – and here, praying as a man, He naturally and properly declares His Father is the ‘only True God’.
Elsewhere Jesus declared of Himself – “I and the Father are One.”..and in closer examination of John 17:3 we find that, far from denying His own Deity, here again His Oneness with God is revealed. “And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent.”
Eternal life is found in Father and Son together..!!!
This also gives again the proper description of His Deity.. as a Unity – He does not become the Father Himself, nor is He another god (as is falsely professed), but has in fact a Unity with the Father.. and thus equality with God – as God. (John 1:1).
July 2, 2015 at 9:32 am#800512kerwinParticipantDavidL,
No, of course not..!!
Jesus as a man was referring to His Father as the only true God..
He was not denying His own divinity but affirming the Trueness of God as was done in the OT.Interpretation Jesus is not God because he is human and he is God because I say so.
As long as you choose to believe both that Jesus is not God and is God you will not be convinced of the foolishness of the teaching of the Trinity because you accept a broken teaching as the truth. In short you cannot prove the truth to a person who chooses to embrace an irrational teaching. They have to first abandon irrationality before the truth can be fully revealed to them.
July 2, 2015 at 10:16 am#800514NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
So you agree that Jesus is a man.
But you want us to accept that a man is GOD?
“God is not a man that He should lie, nor a son of man that He should repent”.
Num23.19f
Your god is too small.
July 2, 2015 at 10:24 am#800518NickHassanParticipantHi davidl,
Since you claim ONENESS between the members of your committee god then is your god a man?
Perhaps you should support ONENESS as your treatment of your members is not equal.
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