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- September 15, 2009 at 5:10 am#146120daretoshredParticipant
I hope that I have not upset anyone in the way I've posted, my intention is not that.
But back to the topic, I was thinking what is the underlying concern of believing if God has a body or not? I figured that the main issue is how can God be omnipresent and all-powerful if He is confined to a body.
However, it is clear that God does not have a human body, one with certain limits, dimensions, etc. (and even though we change dimensionally as we age, there are definite limits)
Is it possible, however, that God has a transcendent body that is limitless? That his body doesn't have limits such as size, weight, density, like ours? Just as Jesus has a glorified body that is transcendent beyond our limited human bodies, wouldn't God also have a similar type of body? Jesus came from God, he is the Son of God, so wouldn't it also follow…like Father like Son? God says to Jesus, let us make man in our image, then it seems inconsistent that we, who have bodies, would be images of a bodyless God and a Son who has a body.
In no way am I saying that God is limited by having a body. Nor am I trying to make him to be human. If I am incorrect in my thinking, which is possible, please direct me to scripture that directly says God has no body. I contend that God has a spirit just as we have a spirit, and God has a body just as we have a body. God's body and spirit are greater than ours in every way, if such a comparison were even possible, without offending Him.
September 15, 2009 at 5:58 am#146121NickHassanParticipantHi DT,
Omnipresence is a theologian's word.
Not in scripture.Ps 139 shows it is as His Spirit.
September 15, 2009 at 6:22 am#146124daretoshredParticipantWho is HT? I'm new here so I don't know everyone's nicknames yet.
September 15, 2009 at 6:49 am#146125NickHassanParticipantHi DT,
ooops.
Jesus now has a new body and so will his brothers when he returns[1Cor 15, 2 Thess]
We will be sexless and alike to the angels.
So does God have such a body??September 15, 2009 at 7:14 am#146127daretoshredParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 15 2009,18:49) Hi DT,
ooops.
Jesus now has a new body and so will his brothers when he returns[1Cor 15, 2 Thess]
We will be sexless and alike to the angels.
So does God have such a body??
Jesus has a glorified body, I'm sure we can all agree that is scripturally correct.God also must have a similar body, in order to have a Son in the same likeness. Plus there is plenty of scripture that shows God does have a body, but a body that is limitless, whatever that may be.
As for being like the angels, yes we will not marry nor be given to marriage, as Jesus says. But His response doesn't say anything about whether his Father is bodyless or not. There also isn't any other similarity as far as I know that we have with angels.
I'm a little lost as to what you're trying to say. We are not going to marry in the Kingdom of God, but there's a disconnect…how does that show that God has a body or doesn't have one?
A tangent…do angels have bodies? I don't think they do but I haven't really looked into it. They can appear as men, but they're usually (always?) referred to as spirits. Maybe I'll look into that another time. I really need to go to sleep.
September 15, 2009 at 9:45 am#146132NickHassanParticipantHi DT,
We know we will be like to the Son of God
It depends what Jesus meant when he said we would be like to the angels.
The likeness between men and God does not include our flesh which is of earth and cannot inherit the kingdom.
We know the Spirit of God is close to every man[acts 17, ps 139] but God IS in heaven because Jesus told us to pray to him there.September 15, 2009 at 10:15 pm#146190ProclaimerParticipantGod is a Spirit. That is what he is.
It is written, “The LORD is the Spirit”.
Spirit is not like a body. Spirit can be in all, a body cannot.
Jesus on the other hand, is the image of the invisible God, and the firstborn of/over all creation.
September 16, 2009 at 6:45 am#146236daretoshredParticipantQuote (t8 @ Sep. 16 2009,10:15) God is a Spirit. That is what he is. It is written, “The LORD is the Spirit”.
Spirit is not like a body. Spirit can be in all, a body cannot.
Jesus on the other hand, is the image of the invisible God, and the firstborn of/over all creation.
t8 –Which Lord/LORD is the verse talking about? is it YHWH? In some versions of 2 Cor 3:17 (I'm assuming that's the verse as you didn't provide a reference), it's written as Lord, not LORD. Could you let us know what it says in the original language?
September 16, 2009 at 7:24 am#146239Catholic ApologistParticipantQuote (daretoshred @ Sep. 16 2009,18:45) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 16 2009,10:15) God is a Spirit. That is what he is. It is written, “The LORD is the Spirit”.
Spirit is not like a body. Spirit can be in all, a body cannot.
Jesus on the other hand, is the image of the invisible God, and the firstborn of/over all creation.
t8 –Which Lord/LORD is the verse talking about? is it YHWH? In some versions of 2 Cor 3:17 (I'm assuming that's the verse as you didn't provide a reference), it's written as Lord, not LORD. Could you let us know what it says in the original language?
The NT is Greek, not Hebrew. No tetragrammaton in Greek, buddy. - AuthorPosts
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