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Astaria,
Welcome, you seem to know the difference between love and religion, it takes some a lifetime to gain this knowledge. Hope you stick around and share with us.Wm
Hey Wm,
Thanks – I've been through the wars a bit – you could say “I was dead but am now alive again!”.
Come out stronger – always because death teaches you the value of life.
Quote (Astaria @ Dec. 31 2010,08:05) Hello Irene (And thanks for the Welcome!), It was going 'off topic' a little but do I think this allowed for a short burst?
Many are to be 'Saved by Faith' ('I believe that Jesus came in the flesh….etc.') But many others will be given credence for WORKS alone even if they did not come to know GOD and the testament of Jesus…These will go into the second resurrection where they will be again “tested” with the full knowledge of the Truth of God.
Imagine a man on a desert island who never got to hear the word of God before he died. Should he be punished with everlasting death? No!
He will be judged on his life on the island – Everyone has God in them…everyone is made in the Image of God and knows good from God…(Thanks to Adam!!!).– If that man saw a fight between two friends and he went and resolved the dispute – then that is godly…even though he did not KNOW IT WAS GODLY …
– If a woman gave some food to a destitute one who could not help himself (Not a lazy person who would NOT help himself) then she, too, was GODLY, even though she knew it not.These two acts of generosity are called “WORKS”.
Anyway, like I said, it is going off topic.
It is by Faith that we do things and not by works alone that we are saved, Right? In
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
I think that without Faith in Christ Jesus we are lost….
Peace Irene
Astaria,
give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.I used to believe that I could never be grateful for some of the things you have to go through, but as I matured I found I could be thankful for what the trials added to my character. Good times bring a respite, trials bring growth.
My opinion – Wm
I know nothing about Je_us, but Yahushua the Messiah was tempted whic is to say that HaSatan promised him the whole world if Yahushua would bow to HaSan, but Yahushua Messiah did not fall into that temptation. He did not even consider the offer!
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Hi Irene,I felt a little uncomfortable at your last post.
Your say that “without Faith in Christ Jesus we are lost” as if I was saying something else.
I didn't want to labour the point because this was not what the thread topic is about…however, you seem to be drawing things across to saying something that I did not say and would never say, ipso… that we can do without faith…What I said or 'meant to say' was that “THOSE WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS and the Testimony of God” can still be judged by their deeds – their works because even without KNOWING GOD we can still do GODLY WORKs – BECAUSE we are created in HIS IMAGE – cannot escape the inner Spirit that says “This is RIGHT” and “This is “WRONG”.
When does a child learn right and wrong – Right from Birth – but we give human allowances for their errors …Think – WHO decided that age 12 is the age a child can start being prosecuted for offences? if so, then why not 10, or 8, or 6? Certainly, out of sight of the “Tack Squad” parents punish their children from 1 years up wards – so who is judging by age?
Then what of those who have never had discipline (hard to believe) but how are they to be judged?
Didn't Jesus go “IN THE SPIRIT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT” to judge those of NOAH's days who did not yet have the LAW…(Isn't that like the man on the desert island away from civilisation?).Sorry Irene, I didn't say that we can do without FAITH – but he who has not known cannot have that FAITH (How could they) but then ONCE having heard they then cannot deny the knowledge of God.
Irene, did you think I meant something else – was I not clear or is my writing style bad. Sorry if it is.
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Hi Irene,I felt a little uncomfortable at your last post.
Your say that “without Faith in Christ Jesus we are lost” as if I was saying something else.
I didn't want to labour the point because this was not what the thread topic is about…however, you seem to be drawing things across to saying something that I did not say and would never say, ipso… that we can do without faith…What I said or 'meant to say' was that “THOSE WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS and the Testimony of God” can still be judged by their deeds – their works because even without KNOWING GOD we can still do GODLY WORKs – BECAUSE we are created in HIS IMAGE – cannot escape the inner Spirit that says “This is RIGHT” and “This is “WRONG”.
When does a child learn right and wrong – Right from Birth – but we give human allowances for their errors …Think – WHO decided that age 12 is the age a child can start being prosecuted for offences? if so, then why not 10, or 8, or 6? Certainly, out of sight of the “Tack Squad” parents punish their children from 1 years up wards – so who is judging by age?
Then what of those who have never had discipline (hard to believe) but how are they to be judged?
Didn't Jesus go “IN THE SPIRIT BY THE HOLY SPIRIT” to judge those of NOAH's days who did not yet have the LAW…(Isn't that like the man on the desert island away from civilisation?).Sorry Irene, I didn't say that we can do without FAITH – but he who has not known cannot have that FAITH (How could they) but then ONCE having heard they then cannot deny the knowledge of God.
Irene, did you think I meant something else – was I not clear or is my writing style bad. Sorry if it is.
Please tell me what the spirit of Anti-Christ is? Just that…I do believe that all will have a chance to hear Jesus. And will get some time to either hear Him and believe Him or not. It would simple not be fair if they wouldn't…..Peace IreneHi Irene,
I don't see what your question has to do with anything…How is ANTI-CHRIST linked to anything I said?
Again, like in another post, You write to me stating something I wrote to you, as if i never wrote it….THREE TIME NOW I say “Those who have not had a chance to know God will be given the chance to know God – and then they will be judged” – Scriptures says so – it is plain and obvious – why is there disagreement over something we AGREE about.
Why do you write to me to say what I just said, with an exemplary illustration, as if you didn't understand nor read what i wrote to you.
Are most people in this forum like this…? Interesting Forum…
I notice many people posting “Lovies” at the end of their posts but they are anything but “Lovies” in their hearts – Just posting because it makes them look pious.
May God Bless you, Irene.
Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2010,19:47) Astaria,
give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.I used to believe that I could never be grateful for some of the things you have to go through, but as I matured I found I could be thankful for what the trials added to my character. Good times bring a respite, trials bring growth.
My opinion – Wm
STyou know Jesus learn us to pray,but what is a prayer?
you know when i get up in the morning or just wake up still in bed,I thank God that he has help me trough the night,prayers are talks with your God and father ,for everything eat,work,marriage,children,vacation,sleep,wakes,writing,reading.for others,
just never forget if you stand on this earth it is not by your own power but Gods power,if you have the opportunity to read his word ,be careful to pay attention to it because he will judge you with it.
God bless you my friend.Pierre
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The Spirit of the Anti-Christ is the Spirit of falsity that denies that Jesus came in the flesh, delivered the testimony of his father and God, was sinless but died after taking on the sins of the whole of mankind from the Adamic age up to that point, crucified like a lamb at a sacrificial slaughter for the salvation of mankind and was raised up by the spirit of God.Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 31 2010,08:15) I know nothing about Je_us, but Yahushua the Messiah was tempted whic is to say that HaSatan promised him the whole world if Yahushua would bow to HaSan, but Yahushua Messiah did not fall into that temptation. He did not even consider the offer!
You seem not to understand how the people Jesus' time named their babies. Their names were not empty noises without meaning as our names now are but they were comments that said something about the person that bore them. Jesus or Yahushua for that fact would not be the correct translation among English speakers because such being alien languages are but meaningless noise. The correct name is LordSaves as the name should be translated to English if you choose to follow the customs of the people of Jesus' time.Otherwise your comment is correct because I consider such issues as irrelevant to the truth that is in The Anointed.
Astaria,
Hello, Thank you for participation.
So your point is that Jesus was not longer of another kind when he was transformed into a human being and so did not have the characteristics of the kind he was before the transformtion. Do you know of other accounts in scripture when one kind was transformed into another. A frog perhaps begame a prince or a prince became a frog. I know that John the Baptist did say that if people do not put fruit to their repentence God could make rocks into people to serve him. I also know Adam was made from earth and Eve from part of Adam. I do not know of God changing one kind to another.
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