Do you believe the theory of Evolution to be true?

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  • #62150
    NickHassan
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    Hi Stu,
    You have your faith in the observations and predictions of men.
    We have faith in a God we know.
    His Word is truth.

    #62182
    acertainchap
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    Amen! :)

    #62192
    A4J
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    Hi,
    First the proteins must be assembled before the cell wall can be put together and you have told us it takes so long for even one evolutionary step yet you have faith everything needed could be formed and assembled in the twinkling of an eye ..by a fluke. Such faith.

    Nope sorry buddy :D
    proteins cans travel into a membrane, react with each other and be to large to escape, also DNA can form a Lipid shell around it, so it doesn't even have to form the RNA or chemical of similar structure and ability in order for a very primitive cell to form
    so your wrong!
    also, do you honestly belive that sceintists are trying to delude everyone?
    there not! there is no incentive for doing such an act and there not trying to keep theories… infact they constantly are trying to look for new information about everything good or bad for the present theories…
    to either discard/change the ones they have now or come up with an entirely new one
    scientists simply look for the most fitting answer!

    its not like the scientists will go to science hell for disproving something! in fact, they become famous and looked at as a very brilliant person in the scientific community
    if there were evidence to disprove the theory of evolution, we wouldn't even be talking about it right now simply because NO ONE would except it, especially not the scientists!

    #62193
    NickHassan
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    Hi A4.
    So first you need a membrane.
    The some mitochondria waiting to fire up then
    KAPOW
    magic?

    #62212
    A4J
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    first off its a very primitive cell, all it has to do is reproduce.. its on the line of living or having very complex chemical abilities
    first off “most” eukaryotic cells have mitochondria
    but not all?
    now who says they even have to be similar to eukaryotic cells?
    there are different types of cells these days.
    Also its important to note that the primitive cells that created life would have to evolve into something much more complex because the environment has changed so much!
    now there are predators and free oxygen etc!

    Now given i do not know everything and neither do you about this *no matter how well you know the bible* but do you really think science to the best of its abilities is going to make up lies for no reason? or is there a reason for it to do so?

    #62213
    A4J
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    Look how simple a Prokaryotic cell is! No mitochondria, etc
    https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….ry72834
    and thats today… not 4 billion years ago

    #62222
    NickHassan
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    Hi a4,
    Then how did it develop the beautifully designed power source mitochondria?

    #62234
    Stu
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    Hi Nick

    ++”You have your faith in the observations and predictions of men.
    We have faith in a God we know.
    His Word is truth.

    Except that the only record you have of “His Word” is self-contradictory, with its inability to describe correctly even basic observations.

    Did your imaginary friend (allegedly) give you a brain in order for you to post a mindless mantra?

    What purpose does the We Know What He Wants And He Wants It For You nonsense serve?

    Sounds like a bad vampire movie.

    Stuart

    #62235
    Stu
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    Then how did it develop the beautifully designed power source mitochondria?

    “they were originally derived from endosymbiotic prokaryotes” (not designed)

    Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondria

    #62239
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Stu,
    All by themselves.
    How clever.

    #62242
    Stu
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Kiwis? Or still no answers?

    Stuart

    #62245
    NickHassan
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    Hi Stu,
    I am not an oracle to find your answers from.
    Remarkably ignorant even, but I do know the one who is called truth.
    Does anything else matter, except to those who claim to be wise in the world?

    #62246
    charity
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    Quote (Stu @ July 30 2007,19:25)
    Hi Nick,

    Kiwis?  Or still no answers?

    Stuart


    stuart

    Gods creation, arrives on earth in its time, and returns to dust, maybe you could rise up dust, and grow them again
    But Adam won't be here to help with the Names

    But Go ahead make a little cake, heap up silver as the dust, and prepare raiment as the clay; from beneath the sea, rise up rocks
    Behold, all ye yourselves have seen it; why then are ye thus altogether vain?
    He who made the whole earth, prepared everything, and you have conceived the thought of placing foundations, and of creating visible creation, from his foundations
    Even the sun has peace in itself over all, as the fiery essence
    Which is both fire in water and water in fire, and one does not put out the other, nor does the one dry up the other
    Rom 9:20  Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

    #62249
    A4J
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    Evolution has compelling proof and is excepted by science, because there is no proof pointing against it-everything agrees under any cercumstance (show me other wise)
    God: has no proof, isnt excepted my science, explanation for everything with the absence of god (creation of the earth, life, etc)

    just because its the most popular myth doesnt make it correct
    even in the bible it says test everything

    Evolution doesn't even disprove god, smart Christians still believe in god and evolution

    isn't it how you interpret the bible anyways?

    #62255
    Is 1:18
    Participant

    Okay A4J, I'll call you on that. Name one piece of “compelling proof” for the veracity of the theory of evolution.

    #62256
    Is 1:18
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    Quote (A4J @ July 30 2007,20:24)
    Evolution doesn't even disprove god, smart Christians still believe in god and evolution


    Incorrect. A smart christian would recognise the blatant incompatibilities between Biblical creationism and darwinian evolution. Only a very foolish christian might try to reconcile them…..

    #62257
    A4J
    Participant

    Well then a smart Christian is a stupid person 😛

    “You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?”

    how can you not believe evolution? if you have studied it.. surely you cant reject it assuming you study it and not some other crap that claims to be the theory of evolution

    #62259
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi A4,
    Is there any better book, or a better teacher than truth?

    #62260
    A4J
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    Okay A4J, I'll call you on that. Name one piece of “compelling proof” for the veracity of the theory of evolution.

    i already have given tons!
    but here are some good videos

    also there is excellent fossils from one animal to another, look at the freaking whales! or people… there fossiles homo erectus etc, its all very clear!

    if micro evolution can happen why can macro?
    surely if micro persists long enough it will form macro…

    Oh this seems like a nice video… i havent watch it all yet… funny if it turned out to be anti-evolution at the end haha
    its well made at least

    haha jk… it starts out so evolutionary it would contradict itsself if it was creationism

    #62261
    A4J
    Participant

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